[Discussion] zoro

[nanadaime]

Should zoro show more one and two sword style techniques since the time skip i haven't seen any one sword style techs and i would like to see how strong his lion strike has gotten on top of other things he has up his sleeve i just don't want his next technique revealed to be an upgrade zoro should have learned some new technique while training under the greatest swordsman right

 

[A$AP Wap]

i thought zoro had 3 swords?

 

[nanadaime]

i thought zoro had 3 swords?

He does but considering how strong he has gotten shouldn't he be able to neg more enemies with less effort one sword should be enough to cut down a group of fodders like an captains crew should be wiped out with one lion strike

 

[Lost Woods Denizen]

A new one sword style technique was used when he demonstrated his dominance over the snow logia user. Another was used earlier when he cut the head off of the dragon on Punk Hazard. Even before that he used another to blast a hole through the head of a giant threatening fish while the Sunny was still underwater trying to come up from the new world.

 

[Hexuze]

I just want to see Zoro pushed to his limit, hopefully Wano will be the arc where that happens.

 

[Kamui Sama]

well he beheaded the dragon with shi shishi sonson.

 

[nanadaime]

A new one sword style technique was used when he demonstrated his dominance over the snow logia user. Another was used earlier when he cut the head off of the dragon on Punk Hazard. Even before that he used another to blast a hole through the head of a giant threatening fish while the Sunny was still underwater trying to come up from the new world.

And all these feats are pre-time skip i mean post-time skip these attacks should be reshown as stronger techs along with different ones to support his progress as the best he shouldn't need more than one sword to neg individuals on lets say buggys level

 

[Lost Woods Denizen]

I believe the attacks were shown as stronger techniques, despite the similar names. Zoro simply has not had a fight which has caused him to struggle, and therefore show a move that looks even more impressive due to how beat up he was when he used it.

He may not need more than one sword to fight, but his sword style is the three sword style, and he was noted to be more comfortable fighting with three swords. I doubt it has to do with how quickly he can dispatch someone, and more as a matter of pride in being the user of the three sword style.

What do you think?

 

[Caliburn]

He has used one-sword style techniques on at least 5 occasions:

- To beat Monet (Daishinkan - Great Dragon Movement)

- To kill Vegapunk's dragon (Shi Shishi Sonson - Death Lion Song)

- To kill the sea monsters the Strawhats were trying to catch when they left Fishman Island (Sanbyakurokuju Pound Ho - 360 Pound Cannon)

- During the fight with Hody Jones (Yakkodori - Disaster Harborbird)

- During the fight with Pica (Baki - Horse demon)

And in the end he is still above all else a Santouryou - swordsman, so logically he is supposed to use that the most. He hasn't used any new Nitoryuu techs, however he didn't have much variation in those pre-timeskip either way.

 

[Anduril]

He has used one-sword style techniques on at least 5 occasions:

- To beat Monet (Daishinkan - Great Dragon Movement)

My favourite one sword style <3

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

All of Zoro's techniques are the same with varying numbers of swords in use, so: logically, Itoryuu, Nitoryuu, Santoryuu all have their own versions of the Phoenix Cannon, right? (360 pound-hou etc. etc.). So we'll probably see stuff like "Nitoryuu Daishinkan" etc.

I wouldn't worry about how many techniques and moves he has with one and two swords. He's a user of Santoryuu and so that's where he should logically have the most techniques

 

[Caliburn]

All of Zoro's techniques are the same with varying numbers of swords in use, so: logically, Itoryuu, Nitoryuu, Santoryuu all have their own versions of the Phoenix Cannon, right? (360 pound-hou etc. etc.). So we'll probably see stuff like "Nitoryuu Daishinkan" etc.

I wouldn't worry about how many techniques and moves he has with one and two swords. He's a user of Santoryuu and so that's where he should logically have the most techniques

Hmmm no as far as I know the Phoenix Cannon is the only tech that can be considered being a 'series' with having a variation for one, two and three swords. All the other techs are specifically tied to the amount of swords used. Of course there are some techs you could consider variations of each other only with different swords, but as Zoro/Oda does not consider them being as such, they aren't one.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

Hmmm no as far as I know the Phoenix Cannon is the only tech that can be considered being a 'series' with having a variation for one, two and three swords. All the other techs are specifically tied to the amount of swords used. Of course there are some techs you could consider variations of each other only with different swords, but as Zoro/Oda does not consider them being as such, they aren't one.

They all look the same anyway, just have different names and different numbers of swords

 

[Caliburn]

They all look the same anyway, just have different names and different numbers of swords

That's the case with a lot of characters' attacks, but they are presented as being different, thus that makes them officially different. As said before the only tech that has been presented as being a tech that can be used with 1, 2 and 3 swords, is Phoenix Cannon. All the others are individual techs tied to a specific number of swords.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

That's the case with a lot of characters' attacks, but they are presented as being different, thus that makes them officially different. As said before the only tech that has been presented as being a tech that can be used with 1, 2 and 3 swords, is Phoenix Cannon. All the others are individual techs tied to a specific number of swords.

But that still means my point stands that his techniques are just variations of eachother depending on the number of swords

 

[Caliburn]

But that still means my point stands that his techniques are just variations of eachother depending on the number of swords

Sanji names most of his techs after the body part he hits, in the end they are all just kicks, but they are still qualified as different attacks. In the end almost all of Zoro's techs are 'variations' of sword techs and those again are 'variations' of combat techs. It all depends on how broad or small your perspective is, but in the end Zoro/Oda has classified Zoro's techs as being unique depending on the number of swords used. Using one sword is a different tech than using two swords. The only exception is his Phoenix Cannon.

You used "Nitoryuu Daishinkan" as an example. Daishinkan is used by holding a single katana with two hands, it's a one-sword style tech. Even if Zoro would use a similar tech somehow with two swords, it would highly likely be under a different name and it would be classified as a different tech as it's not the same no matter how much they resemble each other. If he would however use the same name, then Zoro/oda intentionally wants them to related to each other.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

Sanji names most of his techs after the body part he hits, in the end they are all just kicks, but they are still qualified as different attacks. In the end almost all of Zoro's techs are 'variations' of sword techs and those again are 'variations' of combat techs. It all depends on how broad or small your perspective is, but in the end Zoro/Oda has classified Zoro's techs as being unique depending on the number of swords used. Using one sword is a different tech than using two swords. The only exception is his Phoenix Cannon.

You used "Nitoryuu Daishinkan" as an example. Daishinkan is used by holding a single katana with two hands, it's a one-sword style tech. Even if Zoro would use a similar tech somehow with two swords, it would highly likely be under a different name and it would be classified as a different tech as it's not the same no matter how much they resemble each other. If he would however use the same name, then Zoro/oda intentionally wants them to related to each other.

Why bring Sanji into this? Of course he's similar. Most characters use the same techniques and name them differently depending on what they're hitting, how many weapons or what form they're in etc.