[VS] Zoro vs Law

[Hexuze]

Law and it can be even easier if he's able to take away his swords.

 

[-Akuma-]

Law wins.

 

[Kushina89]

i wonder why people love to underestimate law? the dude that took so much shit the whole arc from different people and was still able to do shit at the end and help luffy to beat doffys ass.. wow

 

[SixPathsMike101]

This Robin kid is retarded. Who says speed is irrelevant? That's how Doffy bypass his devil fruit you ****ing idiot.

law is faster shambles fits in the speed category

 

[Wrappering_]

Roro low-mid Diff

 

[Oblivionx]

Law wins for now but it won't be as easy as people making it out to be. It'll be high diff and that might change once we see zoro go all out.

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Law wins for now but it won't be as easy as people making it out to be. It'll be high diff and that might change once we see zoro go all out.

But the same can be applied for law

No one is oda on this forum so laws development does not have to stop just because doffy is down


Also I'd argue that we did not see law go all out in dressrosa because he was outclassed by the people he fought (Fuji doffy etc)
When someone is to go all out they have to be kind of close in strength with his opponent. The reason I say this is because we seen law pressed, did he make some intelligent moves yes but mainly for defense and saving others as well as lucky shots. He needs someone close to his strength to showcase his true strength rather then get rag dolled by someone that is stronger then u (case and point luffy vs lucci very close in strength after the gears etc) (the only reason I say luffy went all out against doffy despite being weaker then him is because he literally needed to be saved/have a break in the middle of the fight also the hype of gear4rhbeing luffy trump card)

I think there is still so much to law especially after the fact that they made him a D

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

law is faster shambles fits in the speed category

Law Shambles requires e little prep before initiating. For him to cut his for shambles or even remove weapons such as guns and swords with scan, the opponent needs to be stationary in one spot for that to work.

Like the G-5 navy fodders and Tageshi were all stationary, but as for smoker and Doflamingo they used their reflexes and speed to evade incoming attacks from Law and avoid getting weapons taken like Smoker's Jitte. Vergo followed this blueprint for a while too to prevent Law from scanning his heart back from his coat. That's why smoker had to help get it back from him in the first place.

Zoro has shown better reaction speed and speed because we've followed the strawhats through the journey since pre timeskip. So Law hasn't shown any good footspeed in those two arcs we've seen in him while Zoro bested him since pretimskip due to actual feats

 

[Punk Hazard]

Law Shambles requires e little prep before initiating. For him to cut his for shambles or even remove weapons such as guns and swords with scan, the opponent needs to be stationary in one spot for that to work.

Law used Shambles on a log that was moving through the air(so that's a no-go on stationary), and then used it again on himself and Doflamingo in order to save Sanji from Overheat. And both of these usages of Shambles were done after Doflamingo had already begun moving for Overheat, which is probably the third or fourth fastest technique we've seen in the entire series. The fact that the log was moving and it was used twice AFTER Overheat started and before it finished shows that this is a load of bollocks.

Zoro has shown better reaction speed and speed because we've followed the strawhats through the journey since pre timeskip. So Law hasn't shown any good footspeed in those two arcs we've seen in him while Zoro bested him since pretimskip due to actual feats

When has Zoro shown any speed comparable to Law's Overheat feat?

 

[Gladius]

Law used Shambles on a log that was moving through the air(so that's a no-go on stationary), and then used it again on himself and Doflamingo in order to save Sanji from Overheat. And both of these usages of Shambles were done after Doflamingo had already begun moving for Overheat, which is probably the third or fourth fastest technique we've seen in the entire series. The fact that the log was moving and it was used twice AFTER Overheat started and before it finished shows that this is a load of bollocks.



When has Zoro shown any speed comparable to Law's Overheat feat?

Didn't base Luffy dodge Overheat at close range?

 

[Skull Knight]

Current Zoro doesn't have enough feats to beat law

 

[Punk Hazard]

Didn't base Luffy dodge Overheat at close range?

Not really. He fell over, was knocked into the air, and it drew blood from him.

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[Skull Knight]

When has Zoro shown any speed comparable to Law's Overheat feat?

I think Zoro dodging Kuma's attack and giving him a scar can be consider as Zoro's speed feats

 

[chopstickchakra]

I think Zoro dodging Kuma's attack and giving him a scar can be consider as Zoro's speed feats

The fact that he was able to keep up with a roided out fishman under water also lends some credit to his reaction speed. Shambles wouldn't give Law as great of a surprise advantage as I think some are accrediting it.

 

[Punk Hazard]

I think Zoro dodging Kuma's attack and giving him a scar can be consider as Zoro's speed feats

The fact that he was able to keep up with a roided out fishman under water also lends some credit to his reaction speed. Shambles wouldn't give Law as great of a surprise advantage as I think some are accrediting it.

Are either of these actually impressive? Hody is weak as shit and what do we have to establish that Kuma's paw attack was actually that fast?

 

[Skull Knight]

Are either of these actually impressive? Hody is weak as shit and what do we have to establish that Kuma's paw attack was actually that fast?

Yes they are considering the fact that Kuma is also a high tier shichibukai lvl fighter.
-He easily bypassed all those pads(lets not forget Zoro was not 100percent when Kima showed up)
-Zoro giving that scar is also a feat (this was a pre ts zoro who didn't receive any training from Mihawk and still was able to scar him and since Kuma is a cyborg we didn't saw any expression or blood coming out of him).

 

[chopstickchakra]

Are either of these actually impressive? Hody is weak as shit and what do we have to establish that Kuma's paw attack was actually that fast?

Say what you want about Hody(wasn't a fan personally) but he's still a fishman, already stronger than a normal human, they were underwater, where they have a natural movement and speed advantage and humans movements are restricted from their land version, and he was on those pills that amplified his power. Hody himself isn't the main point of that example either, the moving and reacting to a boosted fishmans speed while underwater is. You can try and marginalize it rather than counter it as is pretty common place anymore but it's still a good showing of reaction speed, I'm not saying it's proof he's fast enough to stop Room from forming but it's a good sign he has reaction speeds to keep up with Shambles.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Yes they are considering the fact that Kuma is also a high tier shichibukai lvl fighter.
-He easily bypassed all those pads(lets not forget Zoro was not 100percent when Kima showed up)
-Zoro giving that scar is also a feat (this was a pre ts zoro who didn't receive any training from Mihawk and still was able to scar him and since Kuma is a cyborg we didn't saw any expression or blood coming out of him).

Shichibukai level isn't a thing.

Secondly, Kuma being high tier doesn't mean that all of his techniques are high tier. What about those paws establishes them as a legitimate speed feat to dodge them?

Thirdly, Zoro did not scar Kuma. He ripped through his clothing. That was it. Not to mention that Kuma is a tank who allows himself to get hit because he knows he'll shrug it off due to his modifications. We can see this when he allows Sanji to strike him. Not only that, but when has Kuma shown himself to have speed that's impressive by top tier standards?

 

[Punk Hazard]

Say what you want about Hody(wasn't a fan personally) but he's still a fishman, already stronger than a normal human

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they were underwater, where they have a natural movement and speed advantage and humans movements are restricted from their land version, and he was on those pills that amplified his power. Hody himself isn't the main point of that example either, the moving and reacting to a boosted fishmans speed while underwater is.

That means absolutely nothing when the fishman himself is extremely weak by the standards of the people we're talking about. Sure, Zoro outsped Hody. Are you saying that Law, Doffy, and Sanji wouldn't? Are you saying they'd do it worse? Again, if Hody himself isn't impressive against the league we're talking about, then the feat is useless.

You can try and marginalize it rather than counter it as is pretty common place anymore but it's still a good showing of reaction speed, I'm not saying it's proof he's fast enough to stop Room from forming but it's a good sign he has reaction speeds to keep up with Shambles.

No it's not lmao. Hody himself can't keep up with Shambles, so how does Zoro outpacing Hody underwater prove he can do it? Unless Hody moving underwater is comparable to Shambles, it means nothing.

 

[Skull Knight]

Shichibukai level isn't a thing.

Secondly, Kuma being high tier doesn't mean that all of his techniques are high tier. What about those paws establishes them as a legitimate speed feat to dodge them?

Thirdly, Zoro did not scar Kuma. He ripped through his clothing. That was it. Not to mention that Kuma is a tank who allows himself to get hit because he knows he'll shrug it off due to his modifications. We can see this when he allows Sanji to strike him. Not only that, but when has Kuma shown himself to have speed that's impressive by top tier standards?

[video=youtube;FUIkGNBjnv8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUIkGNBjnv8[/video]
watch the video,
both zoro and kuma reacted easily when they were fighting close in range.
Kuma tried to end the fight quickly by spamming his paw thing and Zoro easily bypassed those attacks(and this is one of the strongest attacks kuma got{that is the only thing he uses in his fight})
Sanji kicking Kuma isn't valid point since kuma was busy with Zoro
and if kuma was made of flesh then their is a good chance that scar would have left an impact/mark on kuma