[Discussion] Zoro Value on One Piece

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Classifying these as "fights Zoro lost" is a reach tho..
Wow so enel knocks zoro unconscious and rob lucci hits zoro so hard that his eyes white out while spitting out blood throwing him out of a building isn't a lose and it is reaching to consider that a lose but if an already injured sanji leg bone is cracked in a fight and he continues to fight without receiving a hit it is considered losing and if he takes a beating because he isn't fighting back that is a lose man I can't keep up with this stuff it makes no sense and is very inconsistent smh.
 

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What about asking what Oda thinks himself?

"Luffy, Zoro and Nami are the trigger of one piece" Color Walk 1 (2001)

"Don't speak ill of Zoro" Niconico Live Broadcast (28 December 2011)

That promise is really just protecting him. I don't think Oda is deliberately valuing Zoro more than the rest of the characters but rather avoiding bad writing. Either way, protecting Zoro like that with a promise is not the best writing. When will Zoro face any hardships/struggles? That's the character I enjoyed seeing the most. Not so much the Zoro we're seeing now; his character definitely went downhill for me since the TS.

His fight with Pica was good but felt it dragged out way longer than it should. I'm not saying Zoro should struggle with every fight but seeing those fights where he was close to passing out were the best.
I agree that Zoro is at his best during his intense battles, but when you look at his timeskip it makes sense why Oda decided to portray him this way. He trained with a top tier and currently he was just showing just how important the top tier training was to Zoro and it was important for that to be showcased by showing the drastical difference he possess to regular underlings outside of yonko's seconds. It wouldn't have made sense otherwise. I'm pretty certain we'd see that old Zoro again by the time he'd finally get to fight someone on his level or above like the yonko seconds
 

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Wow so enel knocks zoro unconscious and rob lucci hits zoro so hard that his eyes white out while spitting out blood throwing him out of a building isn't a lose and it is reaching to consider that a lose but if an already injured sanji leg bone is cracked in a fight and he continues to fight without receiving a hit it is considered losing and if he takes a beating because he isn't fighting back that is a lose man I can't keep up with this stuff it makes no sense and is very inconsistent smh.
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Wow so enel knocks zoro unconscious and rob lucci hits zoro so hard that his eyes white out while spitting out blood throwing him out of a building isn't a lose and it is reaching to consider that a lose but if an already injured sanji leg bone is cracked in a fight and he continues to fight without receiving a hit it is considered losing and if he takes a beating because he isn't fighting back that is a lose man I can't keep up with this stuff it makes no sense and is very inconsistent smh.
what are you blabbering about, nearly everyone here said he lost pre timeskip, people you consider Zoro fanboys. Infact by admitting he lost pre timeskip you're basically admitting he's too strong to lose to underlings post timeskip and not because of some promise.
 

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fail.

There is, because you cant use the promise excuse for him not losing post skip, when the promise was made back in East blue and he was already losing fights after that. Therefore something else changed post skip, the promise can't be the deciding factor.
 
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fail.

There is, because you cant use the promise excuse for him not losing post skip, when the promise was made back in East blue and he was already losing fights after that. Therefore something else changed post skip, the promise can't be the deciding factor.
That's fine, but that's not what I was talking about, and not what the correlation you said was.

You said that because Zoro lost pre-skip, that guy is automatically admitting that Zoro can't lose to underlings post-skip, which makes no sense.

Saying the promise isn't relevant anymore=fine. Saying that he admitted Zoro is too strong to lose post-skip to underlings=Reach Reach no Mi.
 

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Well wasn't Zoro too strong for Pica? Wasn't Zoro too strong for Hyouzou? Monet? Who else do you have to offer that is an underling and is out of Pica's league? Excluding yonkou crews there's not much to choose from.

And for the love of God I don't want to see Vergo, no portrayal/feats dictate him being on another level from Pica, stronger? Maybe yea, but that's about it.

I can think of Killer aswell.
 

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what are you blabbering about, nearly everyone here said he lost pre timeskip, people you consider Zoro fanboys. Infact by admitting he lost pre timeskip you're basically admitting he's too strong to lose to underlings post timeskip and not because of some promise.
Maybe you should pay attention instead of spewing out things that have nothing to do with what I'm commenting on the guy I quoted said that zoro's fight against enel and rob lucci would be reaching to consider that a lose and my comment was referring to that pay attention.

You so delusional it's honestly insane how does admitting that zoro lost pre timeskip mean he can't be beat by and underling post timeskip please let me know how those two thing collate with one another. Zoro has never lost to an underling ever non of the monster trio ever has maybe your so caught up in your god like view of zoro that you didn't notice that. Your so misguided that you haven't noticed that zoro has fought nothing but fodder and guys who have ran from him and that leads you to believe zoro is unbeatable but in your head if you keep Winning even against weak opponent your unstoppable just calm down if history has shown from the start of the manga zoro kept beating his opponent because they were weak and beneath him axe hand morgan and buggy's guy but he then ran into mihawk and then that unbeatable aura dissipated zoro will have his fight soon enough to show his power against real opponent and that will be amazing but orgasming over what has been shown far against those weak tier opponent isn't that serious even zoro didn't find any joy in beating the octopus or pica because they were trash zoro shows respect to strong opponent never to fodder so calm down
 
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Maybe you should pay attention instead of spewing out things that have nothing to do with what I'm commenting on the guy I quoted said that zoro's fight against enel and rob lucci would be reaching to consider that a lose and my comment was referring to that pay attention.

You so delusional it's honestly insane how does admitting that zoro lost pre timeskip mean he can't be beat by and underling post timeskip please let me know how those two thing collate with one another. Zoro has never lost to an underling ever non of the monster trio ever has maybe your so caught up in your god like view of zoro that you didn't notice that. Your so misguided that you haven't noticed that zoro has fought nothing but fodder and guys who have ran from him and that leads you to believe zoro is unbeatable but in your head if you keep Winning even against weak opponent your unstoppable just calm down if history has shown from the start of the manga zoro kept beating his opponent because they were weak and beneath him axe hand morgan and buggy's guy but he then ran into mihawk and then that unbeatable aura dissipated zoro will have his fight soon enough to show his power against real opponent and that will be amazing but orgasming over what has been shown far against those weak tier opponent isn't that serious even zoro didn't find any joy in beating the octopus or pica because they were trash zoro shows respect to strong opponent never to fodder so calm down
It ain't about losing bruh, its about struggling, he's been plowing through everything he touches.

I saw your quote, based off one person you decided to cry about Sanji's cracked leg (who no one said was a loss...yet).
 

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It ain't about losing bruh, its about struggling, he's been plowing through everything he touches.

I saw your quote, based off one person you decided to cry about Sanji's cracked leg (who no one said was a loss...yet).

Lmao are you insane you and me had a conversation where you even said sanji lost to vergo to many people have said that so I addressed it so I can have an understanding on what is considered a lose

And you have officially proved my point on how delusional you are you just said that there's not much to choose from outside of pica's league outside of a yonko's crew so you would actually put pica around the level of a yonko crew member man pica is fodder you keep portraying zoro as this powerful admiral level fighter because he beat a guy like pica as if pica was around doflamingo level he is trash nothing more you can't get a power scaling from a guy who ran through a fight a guy who has been living on dressrosa for over 10 year not fighting anybody man smh
 

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Lmao are you insane you and me had a conversation where you even said sanji lost to vergo to many people have said that so I addressed it so I can have an understanding on what is considered a lose

And you have officially proved my point on how delusional you are you just said that there's not much to choose from outside of pica's league outside of a yonko's crew so you would actually put pica around the level of a yonko crew member man pica is fodder you keep portraying zoro as this powerful admiral level fighter because he beat a guy like pica as if pica was around doflamingo level he is trash nothing more you can't get a power scaling from a guy who ran through a fight a guy who has been living on dressrosa for over 10 year not fighting anybody man smh
I'm convinced you can't read.
 

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Lmao i swear this guy has a Zoro detector thread. Guy almost only post in these kind of threads. Will this thread reach 10pages too?
 

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Well wasn't Zoro too strong for Pica? Wasn't Zoro too strong for Hyouzou? Monet? Who else do you have to offer that is an underling and is out of Pica's league? Excluding yonkou crews there's not much to choose from.

And for the love of God I don't want to see Vergo, no portrayal/feats dictate him being on another level from Pica, stronger? Maybe yea, but that's about it.

I can think of Killer aswell.
I'm convinced you can't read.
The irony.

Lmao i swear this guy has a Zoro detector thread. Guy almost only post in these kind of threads. Will this thread reach 10pages too?
Keep crying.
 

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I found it funny and even funnier the way you jumped on the gun but sure Riker if it makes you sleep at night
By the way screwattack downloaded the Zoro vs Erza. But not sure if there are available videos on youtube yet
 

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I found it funny and even funnier the way you jumped on the gun but sure Riker if it makes you sleep at night
By the way screwattack downloaded the Zoro vs Erza. But not sure if there are available videos on youtube yet
Do you have a link to it been waiting on that since the announcement?
 
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