[VS] Zoro and Sanji vs Ace and Jinbe

[Uzumaki Macho]

Sanji and Jinbe were portrayed as being close in power to each other in Fishman Island, and Zoro and Ace should be close in power (imo Zoro has a slight edge) since Zoro is stronger than Sanji and Ace should be slightly stronger than current Jinbe based on the fact that the two were equal when Ace joined the WB Pirates. I'd give this fight to team 1 extreme diff or the two teams tie.

Scenario 2: Replace Sanji with Law.

 

[Vandenre1ch]

I give it to Zoro n' Sanji.

Sanji has high resistance to fire and Jinbe was portrayed to be closer to Sanji in FI. Jinbe clashed with Luffy who wasn't using haki.

 

[Bimbonium]

With laws haxx, if he plays it right he might solo team two, high diff (not that he's necessarily stronger than Jimbe/Ace).

For scenario 1, if Oda showed/planned haki from the get go, the Ace would have it making him even more difficult to deal with, Ace and Jimbe takes this extreme diff, they should have more stamina than Sanji/Zoro, they fought for 5 days straight. (I'm assuming Ace has basic haki; all 3 types)

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Law wins it for his team

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Law wins it for his team

Ok.... but what about scenario one?

 

[SMX]

With laws haxx, if he plays it right he might solo team two, high diff (not that he's necessarily stronger than Jimbe/Ace).

For scenario 1, if Oda showed/planned haki from the get go, the Ace would have it making him even more difficult to deal with, Ace and Jimbe takes this extreme diff, they should have more stamina than Sanji/Zoro, they fought for 5 days straight. (I'm assuming Ace has basic haki; all 3 types)

this right here assuming ace has haki

 

[loj]

Zoro and Sanji high diff
2nd scenario Zoro and Law mid/high diff

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Ok.... but what about scenario one?

Prob give it the water fire duo they fought for five days and five nights so I'd give it to month

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Prob give it the water fire duo they fought for five days and five nights so I'd give it to month

You're assuming Sanji or Zoro wouldn't be able to fight for 5 days against an opponent equal to them. Sanji was portrayed as equal to Jinbe at FI and Zoro is >= Ace by feats and he might have better portrayal. Zoro can counter pretty much every one of Ace's attacks. For example, Hiken gets countered by 1080 pound cannon, and Entei gets countered by Sanzen Sekai and maybe even overpowered by some of Zoro's strongest Asura attacks.

 

[chopstickchakra]

With laws haxx, if he plays it right he might solo team two, high diff (not that he's necessarily stronger than Jimbe/Ace).

For scenario 1, if Oda showed/planned haki from the get go, the Ace would have it making him even more difficult to deal with, Ace and Jimbe takes this extreme diff, they should have more stamina than Sanji/Zoro, they fought for 5 days straight. (I'm assuming Ace has basic haki; all 3 types)

I'm with Bim on this one. Including the part about Ace should have had haki. Touching on the stamina that was a young Ace/Jinbe that fought for 5 days and their stamina would have gotten even better than then. I may need to look over the scans again but I thought it was showing Jinbe as stronger than Sanji and close to an injured Luffy. Wasn't Jinbe able to stop Luffy from going off on his own? Like I said I need to refresh myself on those scenes. Imo Ace or Jinbe should be able to beat Sanji, at least until we see some more from Sanji.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

Give it to zoro/sanji duo. They're just superior to ace in terms of feats, as for jinbei, He would probably do some serious damage but sanji reacted to his speed and g2 quite comfortably thus I assume it's safe to say he's faster. Not mention zoro and sanji's DC is close to a mountain with feats(HM and ISDS).

Plus the monster duo have the haki advantage

 

[chopstickchakra]

Give it to zoro/sanji duo. They're just superior to ace in terms of feats, as for jinbei, He would probably do some serious damage but sanji reacted to his speed and g2 quite comfortably thus I assume it's safe to say he's faster. Not mention zoro and sanji's DC is close to a mountain with feats(HM and ISDS).

Plus the monster duo have the haki advantage

Of course they're superior in terms of feats their part of the main character crew they're gonna get more showing and build up, that's not really a great argument in this case since they don't even have close to equal amount of time. I'm on the fence with Jinbe it could go 1 of 2 ways and it'd depend on the author, but Sanji's fire can either be extinguished by Jinbe's water or Sanji's fire can cook Jinbe like a fish.

 

[Hexuze]

Zoro and Sanji will turn Jinbei into some nice sashimi.

 

[A v i]

S1;Zoro and Ace are strongest of their respective groups. Zoro seem to be superior to Ace according to feats but Oda hyped Ace way more than Zoro and even Luffy for that matter. So, I am giving Ace the benefit of doubt until we get to know more about Zoro. About Jimbe, I think he's currently superior to Sanji. IMO, The reason why Oda tried to avoid Jimbe from joining is that Jimbe may disturb the power structure of the crew. Not to mention, Jimbe operates alone akin to Mihawk and still has a bounty that high. The main attribute about Jimbe that the Gov considers to be a threat to them is without a question his strength which insinuates that most of his bounty reflects his strength unlike people like Jack,Kid and Luffy. That alone speaks for volumes.

So, I'd give it to Team Ace. But Zoro's team'd win, strictly going by feats. That too mainly because of Zoro.

S2: There is no doubt Zoro and Law wins this. Regardless of who's stronger than who, Law would be the best supporter in a fight.

 

[-Akuma-]

Ace's team wins scenario 1 while Zoro's team wins scenario 2.

 

[Itachi Minato]

I think Jinbei is stronger than Sanji. Thats one of the reasons Oda did not have him join because it doesnt fit with Luffy Zoro and Sanji being strongest. I think Ace and Jimbei would win high diff

 

[WhistleBlower]

So no chapter this week?

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

S1;Zoro and Ace are strongest of their respective groups. Zoro seem to be superior to Ace according to feats but Oda hyped Ace way more than Zoro and even Luffy for that matter. So, I am giving Ace the benefit of doubt until we get to know more about Zoro. About Jimbe, I think he's currently superior to Sanji. IMO, The reason why Oda tried to avoid Jimbe from joining is that Jimbe may disturb the power structure of the crew. Not to mention, Jimbe operates alone akin to Mihawk and still has a bounty that high. The main attribute about Jimbe that the Gov considers to be a threat to them is without a question his strength which insinuates that most of his bounty reflects his strength unlike people like Jack,Kid and Luffy. That alone speaks for volumes.

So, I'd give it to Team Ace. But Zoro's team'd win, strictly going by feats. That too mainly because of Zoro.

S2: There is no doubt Zoro and Law wins this. Regardless of who's stronger than who, Law would be the best supporter in a fight.

Lol have u ever counted how many times you say zoro in a post


Also zoro and Sanji have taught nothing but fodder post timeskip .. So I mean that's not really good way to measure this fight now to mention both jinbe and ace r stronger then everyone zoro and Sanji have fought ... (Not including doffy)

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

So no chapter this week?

Golden week

 

[A v i]

Lol have u ever counted how many times you say zoro in a post


Also zoro and Sanji have taught nothing but fodder post timeskip .. So I mean that's not really good way to measure this fight now to mention both jinbe and ace r stronger then everyone zoro and Sanji have fought ... (Not including doffy)

It's because he's the deciding factor in S1 and is the only character in this match up with legitimate feats. I've never said anything about Sanji being superior to anyone in this group. I simply cancelled out Jimbe and Sanji because we don''t know much about them. And it doesn't matter if they never fought someone as strong as Jimbe and Ace. For all we know,Ace and Jimbe never fought and defeat someone who's authentically conformed to be above current Zoro or even Sanji for that matter. The best Ace accomplished so far is to counter an attack from Aokiji and gave troubles to BB in their fight both of which can casually be replicated by Zoro"by feats". Zoro demonstrated better feats than both Jimbe as well as Ace. What I don't understand is, Why is that you're talking as if I was supporting Zoro and Sanji, when I actually favored Ace and Jimbe?