Well Ill loose interest pointing out the flaws in some points in portrayal, considering these cats were literally created in part 2, and Kishimoto admitted not having time to finish. It hardly matters when we can compare their opponents, physical stats, and their ninjutsu.
@Bold ?????
Lol, ain't no flaws bih. It's clear cut. Kisame is portrayed to be superior, hyped to be superior, and has superior feats. What is there to discuss? Should be obvious with knowledge on this manga. Kakuzu and Hidan aren't anywhere near as significant as Kisame was, true. Doesn't change the facts though.
Kakuzu is hard countered by Kisame. Samehada, GSB, and Subterranean Voyage>Kakuzu's entire arsenal. Hidan is a lol.
What am I missing, that Bee speed is the factor? The comparison does aid my point because Asuma and Kisame had no advantage until Asuma sneak attack. Then personally makes the decision that he rather go towards ninjutsu instead. That puts Asuma (known as Konoha best close quarters) against Kisame on par in that field. Kisame already knew what they were up, the moment Bee threw his pencil at him and we outright can read what Kisame's was thinking during all that. Hidan's CQC skill is already going to put Kisame in a weird position to where parrying both his attack wont be enough, and gets scratched.
Bee being faster is as relevant as Kakashi being faster then Hidan. Were factoring Close quarter engagement, its irrelevant to what speed they can move as if any other these characters can react to them anyway. Thats scan hardly means anything, not when Asuma already as good reaction and literally the support of partners telling him to watch out. Thats like saying sensor warning their partner to be on a alert, are non factors
Yes, in addition to the fact that Hidan can't match him. Unless you want to prove that Hidan has anything even remotely comparable to what Asuma did in order to draw blood from Kisame, no it doesn't aid your point. This was also when Samehada was half it's normal size (making it easier to avoid), and before part two buffs, where Kisame takes off in terms of feats. And what exactly is your point? That shows Kisame's fighting intelligence; his ability to immediately deduce his enemies tactics in the midst of battle. Something he'll easily do in front of Kakuzu and Hidan. Lmao, dude. Hidan CQC is nothing in front of Kisame. Stop this. He could
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to counter Hidans scythe before it comes anywhere near him, avoid any silly projectiles, and parry away or overpower Hidan, who is a joke once his scythe is long out the equation. Scratching Kisame is a pipe dream.
Lol, what? So speed isn't relevant in CQC..? It's probably the most relevant, if not one of the most relevant factors in CQC. Kisame perfectly out-maneuvered a much faster and skilled opponent than Hidan from point blank range, using nearly the same tactic Hidan would use. He then properly defended himself by out-maneuvering V1 Bee in CQC, but failed to do so against V2 due to his massive speed boost being too fast to handle. But speed isn't relevant right? Smh. If Kisame can comfortably react and out-maneuver a much faster opponent than Hidan from point blank range, then that means Hidan is going to have an extremely hard time accomplishing anything here.
You stated that Hidans scythe and spear combo would draw blood from Kisame. Again, it was all canonically avoided from a
significantly impaired Asuma. That is the bottom line, and all that should need to be said here. He specifically stated that he wouldn't fall for the surprise scythe tactic again. That doesn't imply that he was relying on Shikamaru warning him, otherwise that contradicts his statement, because that would mean he did in fact fall for it. Especially not the case when there was no indication of being unknowingly caught off guard. Again, Kisame laughs at the entire notion.
