Zetsu takes the Gauntlet

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Considering that Gai is a Taijutsu expert far above Itachi's level and had back up, no. Itachi cannot do the same. Genjutsu of Itachi's caliber will not work on Obito.

The level of Taijutsu wasn't really all that great. All it took was one follow up and he was in the clear, Ribcage Susano'O could be used if needed.

Then what caliber would it take? Itachi's has the strongest Genjutsu feats in the manga. If anything it could be used as a set up, Obito doesn't instantly see through Genjutsu, especially Reality Simulation Genjutsu.

Izanami? That will work only if Obito uses Izanagi which he won't because there is no need to.

It worked on Kabuto, someone that wasn't using Izanagi.

No, what happened?

Zetsu can use Shinsuusenju and Edo Hiruzen can use all 5 elements at once to stalemate it.
 

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The level of Taijutsu wasn't really all that great. All it took was one follow up and he was in the clear, Ribcage Susano'O could be used if needed.

Then what caliber would it take? Itachi's has the strongest Genjutsu feats in the manga. If anything it could be used as a set up, Obito doesn't instantly see through Genjutsu, especially Reality Simulation Genjutsu.



It worked on Kabuto, someone that wasn't using Izanagi.



Zetsu can use Shinsuusenju and Edo Hiruzen can use all 5 elements at once to stalemate it.

Oh god, this guy started the debate. Let me see AC weak rebutals at work.

Don't forget to throw in shadow clones help; exploding clones;intentionally letting obito warp a clone to corner him at both ends; Or itachi knack for instantly exploding into crows with no warning. I'm sure you can throw in some other stuff here and there also...
 

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The level of Taijutsu wasn't really all that great. All it took was one follow up and he was in the clear, Ribcage Susano'O could be used if needed.

It actually was great compared to Obito's or Itachi's Taijutsu. Considering that KCM Naruto could keep up with Itachi in CQC and Obito almost warped him if he wasn't saved by Kakashi, he'd really have no troubles warping Itachi since he has multiple ways of doing it like tricking him by letting his fist or leg pass through him and then suddenly grab it.

Then what caliber would it take? Itachi's has the strongest Genjutsu feats in the manga. If anything it could be used as a set up, Obito doesn't instantly see through Genjutsu, especially Reality Simulation Genjutsu.

None. As Genjutsu does not work against someone who can control a Perfect Jinchuuriki for years and win a mind wrestle against the Juubi.

It worked on Kabuto, someone that wasn't using Izanagi.

Kabuto was trying to be Orochimaru and that's why it worked on him. Obito is not trying to be anyone else. He's trying to be himself. And when I say himself, I mean as ''himself'' who wants to end reality.

Oh god, this guy started the debate. Let me see AC weak rebutals at work.

Don't forget to throw in shadow clones help; exploding clones;intentionally letting obito warp a clone to corner him at both ends; Or itachi knack for instantly exploding into crows with no warning. I'm sure you can throw in some other stuff here and there also...

Juubito > Madara.

MS Obito > MS Itachi.

Sadly, you refuse to accept facts.
 

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Spiral Zetsu summons mini Shinsuusenju that's capable of using all 5 elements.

Ahhh, U_U So is Kakuzu ;)

Nah but Id need morer info to come to a conclusion
 

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Meh.. Now I know why Ej always keeps on saying don't debate with AGB..
No wonder. You associate with that guy. Now I know why your arguments are always so bad.
I've only casually debated that guy once with DSM kabuto vs itachi and his arguments are almost as bad as yours. Just almost.
 
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It actually was great compared to Obito's or Itachi's Taijutsu. Considering that KCM Naruto could keep up with Itachi in CQC and Obito almost warped him if he wasn't saved by Kakashi, he'd really have no troubles warping Itachi since he has multiple ways of doing it like tricking him by letting his fist or leg pass through him and then suddenly grab it.

Naruto was trained in a very advanced form of martial arts. As of now, only Taijutsu specialist are above him in that category and even then most of them lose to him in a CQC match (SM, KM, and BM anyway). Itachi keeping up with Naruto hand to hand was a great feat, He even tore Sasuke apart in CQC which confirms that he's no slouch.

If by chance Itachi gets grabbed, then . Forcing Obito to take the blow or slip through. After either conclusion, Itachi negates Susano'O to conserve Chakra. If Itachi wants, he could be setting up Izanami since Obito touched him and makes it easy to get the repeated motion since Obito will continue to try and grab him.

Though since Sharingan can't distinguish Clones (At least anyone besides Madara's), There's the chance that Obito grabbed an exploding Clone.

None. As Genjutsu does not work against someone who can control a Perfect Jinchuuriki for years and win a mind wrestle against the Juubi.

That's definitely not how it works. He can break a Genjutsu but it doesn't mean he's immune to it, that moments opening is all Itachi needs. In fact, the minute Obito is out of a Genjutsu he's in another. Just like when Sasuke thougth he had stabbed Itachi and It turned out it was Genjutsu, just to stab the Itachi In the chair to learn that it was another Genjutsu.

Saying that Genjutsu has literally no effect on Obito is beyond bias, if I do say so myself.


Kabuto was trying to be Orochimaru and that's why it worked on him. Obito is not trying to be anyone else. He's trying to be himself. And when I say himself, I mean as ''himself'' who wants to end reality.

Trying to be someone else is not the requirement. Being internally lost is, which Obito definitely is.

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Zetsu still is ass people U_U
 

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Damn Goodboy don't sugar coat anything. I like that.

I like you too Tim.
Those big black lips. That green beanie. I'm already soaking in my jimmies. :skorm:

@Zexion: I don't even see him getting past 2. I only think he has a slight shot at one because he could counter kakuzu's elemental attack with his own. But, even then, kakuzu can still probably take him.
There's a theory going around that spiral zetsu's actually controlling Yamato right now and it's actually yamato with a zetsu buff doing these stuff. If that's true, Prince charles will have an orgasm.



Nagato The Sage is slowly moving into my 'respected members on NB' list. This should be good to see AC's new counter. Probably something else that has no proof. :coffee:
 
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Nagato The Sage is slowly moving into my 'respected members on NB' list. This should be good to see AC's new counter. Probably something else that has no proof. :coffee:

Im not on it yet? :( I see how it is.

As for the Yamato theory, its impossible. In theory it can only be Obito, otherwise Zetsu couldn't use all those elemental attacks (Yamato doesn't have all the elements at his disposal, while Obito has the Rinnegan which grants him all elements.)
 
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I like you too Tim.
Those big black lips. That green beanie. I'm already soaking in my jimmies. :skorm:

@Zexion: I don't even see him getting past 2. I only think he has a slight shot at one because he could counter kakuzu's elemental attack with his own. But, even then, kakuzu can still probably take him.
There's a theory going around that spiral zetsu's actually controlling Yamato right now and it's actually yamato with a zetsu buff doing these stuff. If that's true, Prince charles will have an orgasm.



Nagato The Sage is slowly moving into my 'respected members on NB' list. This should be good to see AC's new counter. Probably something else that has no proof. :coffee:

Yeah lmao that would be pretty dope and plausible too my man ^_^
 

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It's hard to tell his power at this point.​
 

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Current Zetsu should win 1-8.
 

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I like you too Tim.
Those big black lips. That green beanie. I'm already soaking in my jimmies.

I like you and i want you, you know where this is heading Goodboy.
 
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