[VS] Zetsu Orochimaru vs. Ay

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SC2: Swap Ay with his father, the Third Raikage.
 

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Between the Senju DNA and Oral Rebirth, I'm not seeing how Ay puts Orochimaru down.
 

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Between the Senju DNA and Oral Rebirth, I'm not seeing how Ay puts Orochimaru down.

This. It's even worse when we factor in the possibility of Orochimaru being capable of using Sage Mode.
 

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Orochimaru can't and won't ever be able to touch Ay with conventional attacks. His only chance is getting him with spores. So if he does that he wins. If not Ay beats him down till he can't get up again. Oro winning is likely though cause I don't see spores being evaded the entire time Oro is able to fight assuming they are airborne.

Ay III stomps him though since he has a way to end his life pretty quickly.
 
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Ay still tosses Orochimaru around until he runs out of chakra to use Oral Rebirth (which was noted to be fairly taxing). Without that technique he's dead. Only difference between regular Oro and Zetsu Oro in this matter is that it'll take more time for Ay to drain him due to the larger chakra reserves.

V2 isn't needed to land a hit on Oro, so Ay III is the same deal, pretty much.

Though Oro has a shot if he can catch Ay in the paralysis toxin his white snake body gives off when sliced, but I still don't see how he's gonna hurt or kill either Raikage before it wears off, especially the 3rd.
 

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Orochimaru can't and won't ever be able to touch Ay with conventional attacks. His only chance is getting him with spores. So if he does that he wins. If not Ay beats him down till he can't get up again. Oro winning is likely though cause I don't see spores being evaded the entire time Oro is able to fight assuming they are airborne.

Ay III stomps him though since he has a way to end his life pretty quickly.
What is the process of using Zetsu spores? Are they even visible, do they spread out like poison gas but invisible?

What exactly does Ay 3 have that can end his life quickly? Hell stab obviously cuts him in half but that doesn't kill Oro.
 

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What is the process of using Zetsu spores? Are they even visible, do they spread out like poison gas but invisible?

What exactly does Ay 3 have that can end his life quickly? Hell stab obviously cuts him in half but that doesn't kill Oro.

That's one thing I've never been able to figure out with 100% certainty tbh. Zetsu released them in the room w/ the Gokage and their bodyguards yet he never actually touched them, and they didn't see it. So the way I see it, Zetsu Spores are released via air and then attach to the target. Basically how spores spread in real life and with Hashirama's Flower World.

A decapitation with Nukite is GG for Orochimaru.
 

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Can oro survive getting his head cut off ? Because if he doesn't then he definitely would lose to Ay IV .AyIII beats him as well but with more difficulty due to being slower than his son .
 

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Why can't Ay decapitate Oro? He's already shown the ability to slice with his lightning armor, its not nukite but it should still work seeing as Oro's neck isn't extra durable.
 

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Why can't Ay decapitate Oro? He's already shown the ability to slice with his lightning armor, its not nukite but it should still work seeing as Oro's neck isn't extra durable.

Orochimaru isn't even particular durable tbh, not like Kisame, or a Raikage. Orochimaru is possesses more flexible endurance, rather than outright sturdy durability.

I can honestly see Ay taking off Orochimaru's head with ease. Especially with his speed in factor.
 

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Restrict Manda and we have a debate on our hands.
 

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Why can't Ay decapitate Oro? He's already shown the ability to slice with his lightning armor, its not nukite but it should still work seeing as Oro's neck isn't extra durable.

He laughed off a Totsuka blade through the heart. He should be significantly more durable through having most of his body being composed of Hashirama's DNA and Sage Mode as well.
 

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That's one thing I've never been able to figure out with 100% certainty tbh. Zetsu released them in the room w/ the Gokage and their bodyguards yet he never actually touched them, and they didn't see it. So the way I see it, Zetsu Spores are released via air and then attach to the target. Basically how spores spread in real life and with Hashirama's Flower World.

A decapitation with Nukite is GG for Orochimaru.
Can't Oro reattach his head with the rest of his body using snakes or spit out a new body? I agree with you on Zetsu spores. What about using white snake poison and possessing Raikage's body?
 

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Can't Oro reattach his head with the rest of his body using snakes or spit out a new body? I agree with you on Zetsu spores. What about using white snake poison and possessing Raikage's body?

Can't do that if you're dead.

White Snake Poison would work if Ay IV drew blood, Ay III definitely will since that's how Nukite works, but Zetsu Oro can't use Fushi Tensei because he already used it to take over a Zetsu body.
 

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Can't do that if you're dead.

White Snake Poison would work if Ay IV drew blood, Ay III definitely will since that's how Nukite works, but Zetsu Oro can't use Fushi Tensei because he already used it to take over a Zetsu body.
Isn't Oro immortal though? Pretty sure Hidan should have died as well but immortality saved him.
 

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Can't Oro reattach his head with the rest of his body using snakes or spit out a new body? I agree with you on Zetsu spores. What about using white snake poison and possessing Raikage's body?

I'm certain Orochimaru has to abandon his vessel in order to take advantage of his poison which seems extremely unlikely considering his Zetsu body is a vessel he's been longing for since he began his research in kinjutsu.
 

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He laughed off a Totsuka blade through the heart. He should be significantly more durable through having most of his body being composed of Hashirama's DNA and Sage Mode as well.

The blade still went right through him though, and his body is as durable as Zetsu's it may have elasticity but his head can still be sliced clean off.

No. Since when was Orochimaru ever stated, shown or hinted to be immortal?

Pretty sure immortality is what he's been striving for this whole time (Why didn't he just go for Hidan's body?) never actually achieved it.
 
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