Zero Path's Sasuke's Tsukuyomi Theory

[Zero Path]

Welcome all! Before i begin, I would Like to assert that This theory is formulated from my own logic and opinion, And should be taken as such.

To begin, I do believe that Sasuke has Access to Tsukuyomi.
Why?

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"He Transferred All His Eye Techniques to you."

Seems Simple, Yes? But maybe not. Although I support The thought that Sasuke Can Use Tsukuyomi, I don't Think he has used it as of yet. Why? As apposed to Amaterasu, Which he had experienced using(On Tobi) Before actually Casting it himself, possibly giving him an idea of how to use it, Tsukuyomi was Never triggered, Thus preventing him from Understanding how to trigger it. Though he may have tried at different times(Like against Bee and Danzo) to cast it, Each ended in Failure.

And That about wraps up my Theory. Feel Free to Comment on/Speculate further/add to with your own thoughts But mostly, Enjoy!

 

[Super Kami Guru]

he does...... at this point my theory is that all uchiha who unlock the ms have the same 3 ability awakening them all is very rare, but like how every ms has a different appearance each uchiha has different forms of the 3 abilities. shisui had to koto instead of normal tsyukiyomi, sasuke could control his amaterasu and warp its shape and size, itachi had yata shield and totsuka blade for his susanoo, madara could use meteor attacks. in the danzo fight vs sasuke tobi tells danzo that even tho sasuke isnt as good as itachi in gen he undereastimated sasuke's tsyukiyomi

 

[Ghostofthewind]

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If Sasuke does then Sasuke's sucks. Itachi's Tsukuyomi happens instantly, cannot be canceled even by a partner and controls time within the genjutsu.

 

[Dead Demon Consuming Seal]

could the 5th hokage be able to heal her self from tsukuyomi she has been shown to be able to heal it for sasuke and kakashi

 

[Zero Path]

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If Sasuke does then Sasuke's sucks. Itachi's Tsukuyomi happens instantly, cannot be canceled even by a partner and controls time within the genjutsu.

I don't Think He actually used Tsukuyomi Here. No doubt some form of Ocular Genjutsu, But even normal Three tomoe Sharingan can cast Genjutsu.

 

[medal32]

Well he is pretty bad with it if he has it

 

[Super Kami Guru]

I don't Think He actually used Tsukuyomi Here. No doubt some form of Ocular Genjutsu, But even normal Three tomoe Sharingan can cast Genjutsu.

so why would it say tsukiyomi..... seriously.... people need to start reading the words that are RIGHT ON THE MANGA PAGES

 

[Ghostofthewind]

I don't Think He actually used Tsukuyomi Here. No doubt some form of Ocular Genjutsu, But even normal Three tomoe Sharingan can cast Genjutsu.

I debated with someone else about Tsukuyomi. Kakashi talks with Chio about it and says it happens in an instant and cannot be canceled after she says you need a partner to snap you out of it. So when Sasuke used a genjutsu on Bee that was thought to be Tsukuyomi and Bee gets up, I'm sure Itachi's Tsukuyomi would have taken Bee out.

so why would it say tsukiyomi..... seriously.... people need to start reading the words that are RIGHT ON THE MANGA PAGES

Because it was a genjutsu. If that's Sasuke's Tsukuyomi, then it really sucks because it looks nothing like Itachi's.

 

[Zero Path]

so why would it say tsukiyomi..... seriously.... people need to start reading the words that are RIGHT ON THE MANGA PAGES

Bacause he's Talking about Itachi's Signature genjustu, Tsukuyomi.

If i make a reference to Itachi's Mangekyo Sharingan, Saying: "It's nothing compared to Rikudou Sennin's Rinnegan." Am i Claiming that Itachi Has Rinnegan? No, good Sir, I am not.

 

[Zero Path]

I debated with someone else about Tsukuyomi. Kakashi talks with Chio about it and says it happens in an instant and cannot be canceled after she says you need a partner to snap you out of it. So when Sasuke used a genjutsu on Bee that was thought to be Tsukuyomi and Bee gets up, I'm sure Itachi's Tsukuyomi would have taken Bee out.

I agree. Even Itachi Said that only an Uchiha could Break Tsukuyomi. And so far, Only an Uchiha ever has. Which leads me further to believe That Sasuke Hasn't yet used Tsukuyomi On anyone.

 

[Ghostofthewind]

I agree. Even Itachi Said that only an Uchiha could Break Tsukuyomi. And so far, Only an Uchiha ever has. Which leads me further to believe That Sasuke Hasn't yet used Tsukuyomi On anyone.

You can argue that Sasuke broke it because Itachi didn't want to kill Sasuke.

 

[OG9TAILS]

One big problem with your theory, there are more than three MS techniques. To say what you're saying would mean that MS users can also use Shisui's and Kakashi's ability. I believe each eye unlocks their own unique ability. The only exception is when you have two eyes, which allow you to use Susanoo. All three two eyed MS users have a Susanoo.

 

[Super Kami Guru]

I debated with someone else about Tsukuyomi. Kakashi talks with Chio about it and says it happens in an instant and cannot be canceled after she says you need a partner to snap you out of it. So when Sasuke used a genjutsu on Bee that was thought to be Tsukuyomi and Bee gets up, I'm sure Itachi's Tsukuyomi would have taken Bee out.



Because it was a genjutsu. If that's Sasuke's Tsukuyomi, then it really sucks because it looks nothing like Itachi's.

Bacause he's Talking about Itachi's Signature genjustu, Tsukuyomi.

If i make a reference to Itachi's Mangekyo Sharingan, Saying: "It's nothing compared to Rikudou Sennin's Rinnegan." Am i Claiming that Itachi Has Rinnegan? No, good Sir, I am not.

it is shittier than itachi;s which is why danzo undereastimated it...... which is explained in the chapter of danzo vs sasuke...... im not going to link this

 

[Zero Path]

You can argue that Sasuke broke it because Itachi didn't want to kill Sasuke.

Very true, But Given Itachi's Reaction, I doubt this is the case. on any level, I don't think Tsukuyomi can actually Kill anyone.

 

[Styles]

You can argue that Sasuke broke it because Itachi didn't want to kill Sasuke.

even though he didn't want to kill sasuke it was still Tsukuyomi that sasuke broke out of

 

[Mante]

Yep, he has Tsukuyomi.

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[Zero Path]

One big problem with your theory, there are more than three MS techniques. To say what you're saying would mean that MS users can also use Shisui's and Kakashi's ability. I believe each eye unlocks their own unique ability. The only exception is when you have two eyes, which allow you to use Susanoo. All three two eyed MS users have a Susanoo.

How Does This apply to my theory?

 

[eyesofthekyuubi44]

Welcome all! Before i begin, I would Like to assert that This theory is formulated from my own logic and opinion, And should be taken as such.

To begin, I do believe that Sasuke has Access to Tsukuyomi.
Why?

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"He Transferred All His Eye Techniques to you."

Seems Simple, Yes? But maybe not. Although I support The thought that Sasuke Can Use Tsukuyomi, I don't Think he has used it as of yet. Why? As apposed to Amaterasu, Which he had experienced using(On Tobi) Before actually Casting it himself, possibly giving him an idea of how to use it, Tsukuyomi was Never triggered, Thus preventing him from Understanding how to trigger it. Though he may have tried at different times(Like against Bee and Danzo) to cast it, Each ended in Failure.

And That about wraps up my Theory. Feel Free to Comment on/Speculate further/add to with your own thoughts But mostly, Enjoy!

I agree with you to an extent. I DO think that Sasuke can use Tsukuyomi. What makes me doubt it is NOT the recent chapter about Sasuke using a Sharingan Genjutsu to break Itachi free from Kabuto's sound illusion, but this...

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Though the translation isn't the greatest, the message I get from this is that Itachi is surprised that Sasuke could use Susano'o. If he knew he transferred his eye techniques to Sasuke, why would this come as a surprise?

What I wonder is if it is a writers message meant to highlight differences between Itachi and Sasuke.

We've seen Itachi use Tsukuyomi under two means.

1. In his fake fight against Sasuke.

2. To incapacitate someone so they can no longer fight.

In his fight with Sasuke, it's obvious that his Tsukuyomi is weaker than what we saw before. But when he uses it against others, it seems that he is just trying to stop them from fighting before he has to cause serious harm. Which reflects the essentially "good" nature of Itachi.

Sasuke on the other hand, is more skilled with Amaterasu, which is a jutsu meant to harm his opponent. Sasuke is shown to be an antagonist that wants to destroy (albeit one that keeps his promises not to harm shinobi from Konoha). This reflects the "bad" nature of Sasuke.

My two cents. Any thoughts?

Yep, he has Tsukuyomi.

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You realize that Narutowiki is NOT a totally reliable source right? It can be altered by ANYONE. Even you and I.

 

[Ghostofthewind]

it is shittier than itachi;s which is why danzo undereastimated it...... which is explained in the chapter of danzo vs sasuke...... im not going to link this

If it sucks that bad is it worth calling Tsukuyomi
476-481 Sasuke v Danzo
257 Kakashi, Sakura, Naruto, Chio v 1/13th of Itachi's power
142 Itachi uses Tsukuyomi on Kakashi

 

[Zero Path]

it is shittier than itachi;s which is why danzo undereastimated it...... which is explained in the chapter of danzo vs sasuke...... im not going to link this

Of course it is. That is, because it isn't Tsukuyomi. Tsukuyomi is The Strongest Genjutsu, Therefor all others Are Inferior. if it was Tsukuyomi, it's potency wouldn't have come into question.