ya so i get it now zangetsu said he was juha bach and wasnt he meant he was because of the quincy powers but hes not because hes ichigos friend and remember when he cried he looked after ichigo all that time so he was actually a good guy thats kool
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The7thHokage
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He didnt cry cause he cared for him , he cried cause i didnt want him to become a shinigami ... So the reason why the Quincy couldnt get Ichigos bankai is cause of the one that was called Zangetsu up untill now ,he sealed the true power of Ichigo , he also stated that half of it was sealed and half he couldn't seal coz of the HOLLOW ... Plus , his name is not Zangetsu , the real name is not known . Zangetsu is the hollow within Ichigo , his true zanpaktou . I dont know what you read , but he also said it when he disappeared. Now if he is a good guy or a bad guy , we can discus that till tomorrow . The battles up ahead will show us that . Next thing you know Bach will be able to put souls in to people just like Voldemort and Orochimaru LMAO ...
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So instead of wanting Ichigo to become a Shinigami, he rather have him be a Hollow instead. Doesn't make sense. I guess he detest Shinigami that much.
Really? that's sort of lame.
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no thats not true he said he watched ichigo grow up to be a man and thats why hes giving him the new shinigami powers because he has to give up his control over ichigo but he knows ichigo is a man now and he was crying tears of happiness
Don't really know what the thread is meant to point out so...I'm just going to explain the situation.
'Zangetsu' who was really Juhabach and he was a 1000 years younger than the Juhabach that invaded Soul Society, however the Juhabach that's in Ichigo's soul represents Ichigo's Quincy powers. Juhabach said he didn't want Ichigo to become a Shinigami because he didn't want to see Ichigo get hurt and because one day he knew he'd try wipe out all the Shinigami Ichigo included.
However his heart began to change as he watched Ichigo come out victorious after every obstacle and began to help him get stronger. Juhabach was suppressing Ichigo's real Zanpaktou the real Zangetsu however there was still so much of Ichigo's power he couldn't suppress and that's why Ichigo turned into his hollow form.
In the end the Juhabach changed after watching Ichigo and eventually stepped down to allow Ichigo's full Shinigami powers shine.
Anyway the Juhabach in Ichigo was a good character he never lied to Ichigo except telling him his name was Zangetsu.
'Zangetsu' who was really Juhabach and he was a 1000 years younger than the Juhabach that invaded Soul Society, however the Juhabach that's in Ichigo's soul represents Ichigo's Quincy powers. Juhabach said he didn't want Ichigo to become a Shinigami because he didn't want to see Ichigo get hurt and because one day he knew he'd try wipe out all the Shinigami Ichigo included.
However his heart began to change as he watched Ichigo come out victorious after every obstacle and began to help him get stronger. Juhabach was suppressing Ichigo's real Zanpaktou the real Zangetsu however there was still so much of Ichigo's power he couldn't suppress and that's why Ichigo turned into his hollow form.
In the end the Juhabach changed after watching Ichigo and eventually stepped down to allow Ichigo's full Shinigami powers shine.
Anyway the Juhabach in Ichigo was a good character he never lied to Ichigo except telling him his name was Zangetsu.
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I wish to point up that, old man zangetsu inside ichigo inner world, is a part of ichigo. If ichigo die, mean he will die as well. Juba form in ichigo, only trying to protect the host by sealing ichigo true power. Every plan is smooth at the first Until his plan got messed up by rukia, where she insert new source of shinigami power into ichigo and eventually make ichigo's sealed shinigami power to be awaken. Time by time, ichigo began to discovered more of his power during either training and battle.
Eventually ichigo noticed about the spirit in his inner world and get know the old man zangetsu and hollow ichigo. Upon connecting with ichigo, oldman zangetsu have to teach ichigo how to use his Zanpatou. He teach him, not because want him to be shinigami, but is to protect the host. If the host got killed, he will be die as well.....
However, oldman zangetsu, can't teach ichigo any Quincy move. Why? Because he do not wish ichigo, to know about he actually a Quincy power inside him. That's why he is using the hollow power to teach/help ichigo. And that's why the spirit who always help ichigo in battle is hollow.
Time goes by, oldman zangetsu himself have influence by ichigo resolve to become stronger stronger, and helped him in his path. And don't worry bro, oldman zangetsu is still inside ichigo, I think eventually he will teach ichigo about Quincy power. Just like what he did previously. Thats because, If ichigo die, he will die too.
Eventually ichigo noticed about the spirit in his inner world and get know the old man zangetsu and hollow ichigo. Upon connecting with ichigo, oldman zangetsu have to teach ichigo how to use his Zanpatou. He teach him, not because want him to be shinigami, but is to protect the host. If the host got killed, he will be die as well.....
However, oldman zangetsu, can't teach ichigo any Quincy move. Why? Because he do not wish ichigo, to know about he actually a Quincy power inside him. That's why he is using the hollow power to teach/help ichigo. And that's why the spirit who always help ichigo in battle is hollow.
Time goes by, oldman zangetsu himself have influence by ichigo resolve to become stronger stronger, and helped him in his path. And don't worry bro, oldman zangetsu is still inside ichigo, I think eventually he will teach ichigo about Quincy power. Just like what he did previously. Thats because, If ichigo die, he will die too.
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Next time u probably get to see oldman zangetsu with Quincy uniform+ bow, training ichigo in his inner world. 
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