Zabuza is a badass

[Mudo]

Oh snap it's about to go down Itachi Namikaze V Hatakeo! *grabs popcorn*. In all seriousness had Zabuza lived long enough to develop more as a character and grow I'm sure he'd be a formidable opponent towards many of the Shippuden characters today.

 

[Kakashi Hatakeo]

I know how this might sound, but for once's i agree with you
Personally i think hidan is by far a dangerous akasuki member, and his ritual move i have yet to see a good counter for it.(most of all he is immortal zabuza best hope would be to cut him to bits before the ritual starts.

Lately i been thinking about Konan paper jutsu she use on tobi made her, aside from pein, tobi,Itachi-the 4th strongest Akasuki member and then Hiden, sasori and who ever comes after her, i could be wrong but hey that jutsu is just epic.

But heres the thing, most of hidans danger lies with the enemy not knowing his secret if they knew he would not be much of a danger and honestly hidan is not great by any means if you replace asuma with kakashi during their fight then i believe hidan would have lost pretty quick and besides if all you have is taijustu then he is incredibly dangerous. Hidan can get taken out pretty easily by jiraiya, orochimaru or any other akatsuki member and yes konan is pretty strong

 

[Billy]

Oh snap it's about to go down Itachi Namikaze V Hatakeo! *grabs popcorn*. In all seriousness had Zabuza lived long enough to develop more as a character and grow I'm sure he'd be a formidable opponent towards many of the Shippuden characters today.

sharing is caring dood

 

[Kakashi Hatakeo]

Oh snap it's about to go down Itachi Namikaze V Hatakeo! *grabs popcorn*. In all seriousness had Zabuza lived long enough to develop more as a character and grow I'm sure he'd be a formidable opponent towards many of the Shippuden characters today.

Lol naah aint nothing going down im pretty rubbish at arguing my point and yes thats what i believe that if he lived he would have become much stronger. I agree he seems weak but he is not, hidden mist + silent killing makes him strong enough for most people even though he may not win

 

[NLee]

Oh snap it's about to go down Itachi Namikaze V Hatakeo! *grabs popcorn*. In all seriousness had Zabuza lived long enough to develop more as a character and grow I'm sure he'd be a formidable opponent towards many of the Shippuden characters today.

Very good

 

[kaka96]

With all the time you're taking Itachi Namikaze , I've got a feeling you won't even let an opening for a counter xD no fun lol
Just kidding, do your best

I used to be a DD but my back started hurting, and that affected my tennis game, so I dropped a couple of hundred pounds and made it back to an A cup.

Now people think that they are just pecs (little do they know that it is just leftover fat from my tubby days)

Don't make fun of me !!

People would laugh when I used to roll to base instead of sliding in when we played kickball in P.E.

 

[Itachi Namikaze]

I seriously doubt you can name that many for one and for second even if you could name 200, how much is it compared to the thousands of thousands of shinobi's that have existed. I bet half of those you'd name are Kage level.

For the water thing, she actually used it on herself to resist the flammes

I never said 200, I said 100. I don't think there have been 200 named ninjas in the show.

But I could name at least 50-75 right now. And yes some of them are kage level but who isn't in shippuden?

Spoiler

1.Naruto
2.Sasuke
3.Nagato
4.Konan
5.Kisame
6.Sasori
7.Hidan
8.Konan
9.Zetsu
10.orochimaru
11.Deidara
12.kakuzu
13.Itachi
14.Jiraiya
15.Tsunade
16.Hanzo
17.Danzo
18.Hiruzen
19.Kakashi
20.Guy
21.Lee
22.Shino (his bugs don't need to see him)
23.Kankuro
24.Gaara
25.Neji
26.Kabuto
27.Bee
28.Asuma
29.Minato
30.Hashirama
31.Tobirama
32.2nd mizukage
33.Mei terumi
34.Yagura
35. Yugito (2-tails)
36.Utakata (6-tails)
37. Han (5-tails)
38.Roshi (4-tails)
39.Fu (the 7-tails not Danzo's guard)
40.Torune
41.Jugo
42.Suigetsu
43.Mangetsu
44.Darui
45.Akatsuchi
46.Muu
47.Onoki
48.A
49.3rd raikage
50.Dodai (the rubber guy)
51.Kurotsuchi
52.Yamato
53.Chouza
54.Dan
55.Kin
56.Gin
57. Madara
58.Shisui
59.Temari (she can blow away the mist)
60.Chiyo
61.Fuguki (Samehada's wielder before kisame)
62.Kimmimaro
63.Third Kazekage
64.4th Kazekage
65.Kitsuchi
66.Hiashi Hyuga
67.Mifune
68.Anko
69.Shizune (poison)
70. And finally Tobi, that's right I saved him for last.

Anyway I only named people that we have actually seen in the manga. If their picture has not been shown i didn't name them, but obviously I could have used all of the previous kages and stuff like that.

 

[Mudo]

I never said 200, I said 100. I don't think there have been 200 named ninjas in the show.

But I could name at least 50-75 right now. And yes some of them are kage level but who isn't in shippuden?

Spoiler

1.Naruto
2.Sasuke
3.Nagato
4.Konan
5.Kisame
6.Sasori
7.Hidan
8.Konan
9.Zetsu
10.orochimaru
11.Deidara
12.kakuzu
13.Itachi
14.Jiraiya
15.Tsunade
16.Hanzo
17.Danzo
18.Hiruzen
19.Kakashi
20.Guy
21.Lee
22.Shino (his bugs don't need to see him)
23.Kankuro
24.Gaara
25.Neji
26.Kabuto
27.Bee
28.Asuma
29.Minato
30.Hashirama
31.Tobirama
32.2nd mizukage
33.Mei terumi
34.Yagura
35. Yugito (2-tails)
36.Utakata (6-tails)
37. Han (5-tails)
38.Roshi (4-tails)
39.Fu (the 7-tails not Danzo's guard)
40.Torune
41.Jugo
42.Suigetsu
43.Mangetsu
44.Darui
45.Akatsuchi
46.Muu
47.Onoki
48.A
49.3rd raikage
50.Dodai (the rubber guy)
51.Kurotsuchi
52.Yamato
53.Chouza
54.Dan
55.Kin
56.Gin
57. Madara
58.Shisui
59.Temari (she can blow away the mist)
60.Chiyo
61.Fuguki (Samehada's wielder before kisame)
62.Kimmimaro
63.Third Kazekage
64.4th Kazekage
65.Kitsuchi
66.Hiashi Hyuga
67.Mifune
68.Anko
69.Shizune (poison)
70. And finally Tobi, that's right I saved him for last.

Anyway I only named people that we have actually seen in the manga. If their picture has not been shown i didn't name them, but obviously I could have used all of the previous kages and stuff like that.

The hidden mist has just been exposed O.O

 

[kaka96]

I never said 200, I said 100. I don't think there have been 200 named ninjas in the show.

But I could name at least 50-75 right now. And yes some of them are kage level but who isn't in shippuden?

Spoiler

1.Naruto
2.Sasuke
3.Nagato
4.Konan
5.Kisame
6.Sasori
7.Hidan
8.Konan
9.Zetsu
10.orochimaru
11.Deidara
12.kakuzu
13.Itachi
14.Jiraiya
15.Tsunade
16.Hanzo
17.Danzo
18.Hiruzen
19.Kakashi
20.Guy
21.Lee
22.Shino (his bugs don't need to see him)
23.Kankuro
24.Gaara
25.Neji
26.Kabuto
27.Bee
28.Asuma
29.Minato
30.Hashirama
31.Tobirama
32.2nd mizukage
33.Mei terumi
34.Yagura
35. Yugito (2-tails)
36.Utakata (6-tails)
37. Han (5-tails)
38.Roshi (4-tails)
39.Fu (the 7-tails not Danzo's guard)
40.Torune
41.Jugo
42.Suigetsu
43.Mangetsu
44.Darui
45.Akatsuchi
46.Muu
47.Onoki
48.A
49.3rd raikage
50.Dodai (the rubber guy)
51.Kurotsuchi
52.Yamato
53.Chouza
54.Dan
55.Kin
56.Gin
57. Madara
58.Shisui
59.Temari (she can blow away the mist)
60.Chiyo
61.Fuguki (Samehada's wielder before kisame)
62.Kimmimaro
63.Third Kazekage
64.4th Kazekage
65.Kitsuchi
66.Hiashi Hyuga
67.Mifune
68.Anko
69.Shizune (poison)
70. And finally Tobi, that's right I saved him for last.

Anyway I only named people that we have actually seen in the manga. If their picture has not been shown i didn't name them, but obviously I could have used all of the previous kages and stuff like that.

I know you didn't say 200, I only said that even if you could, it wouldn't mean he's weak, I've highlithed those I personally doubt about

And as I said, bout half of them are Kage leveled shinobi.
A lot have had much more experience and time to train than him

Of course, I agree with you that he isn't the strongest but you can't get around the fact he is really strong and that your list is mostly made out of the strongest shinobi in all history.

We can't really get around the fact that he fought a kage and survived either can we?

How many can you name that were strong enough at the time he was alive, I say at least 10-20 will be removed from your list

 

[Kakashi Hatakeo]

I never said 200, I said 100. I don't think there have been 200 named ninjas in the show.

But I could name at least 50-75 right now. And yes some of them are kage level but who isn't in shippuden?

Spoiler

1.Naruto
2.Sasuke
3.Nagato
4.Konan
5.Kisame
6.Sasori
7.Hidan
8.Konan
9.Zetsu
10.orochimaru
11.Deidara
12.kakuzu
13.Itachi
14.Jiraiya
15.Tsunade
16.Hanzo
17.Danzo
18.Hiruzen
19.Kakashi
20.Guy
21.Lee
22.Shino (his bugs don't need to see him)
23.Kankuro
24.Gaara
25.Neji
26.Kabuto
27.Bee
28.Asuma
29.Minato
30.Hashirama
31.Tobirama
32.2nd mizukage
33.Mei terumi
34.Yagura
35. Yugito (2-tails)
36.Utakata (6-tails)
37. Han (5-tails)
38.Roshi (4-tails)
39.Fu (the 7-tails not Danzo's guard)
40.Torune
41.Jugo
42.Suigetsu
43.Mangetsu
44.Darui
45.Akatsuchi
46.Muu
47.Onoki
48.A
49.3rd raikage
50.Dodai (the rubber guy)
51.Kurotsuchi
52.Yamato
53.Chouza
54.Dan
55.Kin
56.Gin
57. Madara
58.Shisui
59.Temari (she can blow away the mist)
60.Chiyo
61.Fuguki (Samehada's wielder before kisame)
62.Kimmimaro
63.Third Kazekage
64.4th Kazekage
65.Kitsuchi
66.Hiashi Hyuga
67.Mifune
68.Anko
69.Shizune (poison)
70. And finally Tobi, that's right I saved him for last.

Anyway I only named people that we have actually seen in the manga. If their picture has not been shown i didn't name them, but obviously I could have used all of the previous kages and stuff like that.

Zetsu he is not a fighter and we dont know alot about him
hidan no, seriously what can he do when he zabuza takes away both his sight and hearing and zabuza can locate an enemy through sound immortality is nothing if your in pieces.

Your kidding me your just naming anyone you can think of shizune seriously and lee. Half those people dont stand a chance honestly you havent given any situation where any of them could win forget about them how would hidan win

 

[Kakashi Hatakeo]

I know you didn't say 200, I only said that even if you could, it wouldn't mean he's weak, I've highlithed those I personally doubt about

And as I said, bout half of them are Kage leveled shinobi.
A lot have had much more experience and time to train than him

Of course, I agree with you that he isn't the strongest but you can't get around the fact he is really strong and that your list is mostly made out of the strongest shinobi in all history.

We can't really get around the fact that he fought a kage and survived either can we?

How many can you name that were strong enough at the time he was alive, I say at least 10-20 will be removed from your list

I agree with this, my intention was never to say he was top 10 strongest, all i was saying is he is strong and would give anyone a good fight and considering he can basically blind you and dosent make a sound which leaves you deaf and can locate you by sound that makes it difficult for any ninja. I just see why people think he is weak, i mean kakashi isnt super strong but he can hold his own against the best of them all im saying is so can zabuza lol

 

[Itachi Namikaze]

Zetsu he is not a fighter and we dont know alot about him
hidan no, seriously what can he do when he zabuza takes away both his sight and hearing and zabuza can locate an enemy through sound immortality is nothing if your in pieces.

Your kidding me your just naming anyone you can think of shizune seriously and lee. Half those people dont stand a chance honestly you havent given any situation where any of them could win forget about them how would hidan win

Well most of them I thought it was super obvious how they would win. Shizune uses primarily poison, for which Zabuza has no counter. Hidan just needs a little bit of blood, and Hidan's taijutsu was enough so that he didn't get hit when fighting kakashi in Shippuden.

Lee? Are you really questioning Lee vs. Zabuza?

Gated Lee vs. Zabuza wrecks Zabuza.

 

[kaka96]

Well most of them I thought it was super obvious how they would win. Shizune uses primarily poison, for which Zabuza has no counter. Hidan just needs a little bit of blood, and Hidan's taijutsu was enough so that he didn't get hit when fighting kakashi in Shippuden.

Lee? Are you really questioning Lee vs. Zabuza?

Gated Lee vs. Zabuza wrecks Zabuza.

OKay yeah I didn't think about the gates for a sec xD but I still don't think Shizune would pull it off, Her poison is of no use if she can't see him

 

[Wind..]

He was pretty cool but it just doesn't seem like he was that great only because it was at the beginning of Part 1

 

[Itachi Namikaze]

OKay yeah I didn't think about the gates for a sec xD but I still don't think Shizune would pull it off, Her poison is of no use if she can't see him

Did you see her face Kabuto when Tsunade and Orochimaru first met up in Part 1?

She had poisoned needles and Kabuto freaked out about it, I am sure if they hit Zabuza he would die. And she has some weird wrist launcher to shoot them as well, so she can just spray needles like nobody's business.

Kabuto blocked them with his headband, but Zabuza wouldn't be able to see either.


I see what what you guys are saying, but Kishi killed him off in like the first 20 chapters, so there is no way he can compare to current ninjas. He is pretty cool, but just underpowered.

 

[Kakashi Hatakeo]

Well most of them I thought it was super obvious how they would win. Shizune uses primarily poison, for which Zabuza has no counter. Hidan just needs a little bit of blood, and Hidan's taijutsu was enough so that he didn't get hit when fighting kakashi in Shippuden.

Lee? Are you really questioning Lee vs. Zabuza?

Gated Lee vs. Zabuza wrecks Zabuza.

Seriously i agree to like half the people on the list, i just dont see why you cant understand zabuza is strong and im not sure about lee i mean if he cant see or hear what can he do and im pretty sure he isnt a sensor. The one thing i absoultely have to disagree on is the fact you think hidan can beat zabuza.

Ok here is the scenario zabuza has activated hidden mist and is well hidden now please come up with a way you think he could kill or even touch zabuza?

 

[kaka96]

Did you see her face Kabuto when Tsunade and Orochimaru first met up in Part 1?

She had poisoned needles and Kabuto freaked out about it, I am sure if they hit Zabuza he would die. And she has some weird wrist launcher to shoot them as well, so she can just spray needles like nobody's business.

Kabuto blocked them with his headband, but Zabuza wouldn't be able to see either.


I see what what you guys are saying, but Kishi killed him off in like the first 20 chapters, so there is no way he can compare to current ninjas. He is pretty cool, but just underpowered.

Kabuto said he couldn't dodge because his reflexes weren't back from Tsunade's jutsu

Zabuza showed some nice dodging skills

I believe Sasori is way over her in terms of spamming poison needles :| but this has nothing to do with it

The moment she makes a noise, Zabuza knows where to strike

He's an Anbu and S-Nin and she's a Jonin
She has a chance but I don't think she'd pull it off, she's more of a medic than a fighter.

I got to sleep now , since we agree on the main point, I'mma leave. Nice arguing with ya ^^

 

[Kakashi Hatakeo]

I understand head on zabuza is not particularly strong especially when compared to shippuden characters but the fact of the matter is he dosent need to be hidden mist and silent killing technique is enough for him to beat enemies more powerful then him remember you cant see or hear him while he can locate an enemy just by sound and then its over just like that.

 

[nater]

Zabusa presents some match up problems for quite a few of the generally accepted elite ninja.

 

[Sahin]

Zabuza was badass.. kinda mis him, he resembled Vegeta a bit ;p