Zabuza can make his own water

[ShaneEyyy]

I don't know why some members on here don't think Zabuza can summon his own water.

Zabuza is a great Suiton user, being able to use A-rank Suiton (Giant Vortex Jutsu). Water trumpet, only a C-rank Suiton, requires the user to expel their own water:

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If a Rock Ninja is able to expel their own water, then Zabuza, a Mist ninja who can use more difficult Suiton is clearly able too as well.

Even Yahiko as a little kid was able to perform Water Style: Wild Water Wave, a C-rank move that is considered a basic Suiton technique:

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The Demon Brothers that we all consider fodders were able to create their own water:

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Even nameless fodder Mist ninja were able to summon their own water using Water Wall, a B-rank Suiton:

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This technique, like Hidden Mist Jutsu, seems to be a signature move of Kirigakure. Zabuza can more than likely use it. Darui can even use Water Wall, and it's not even his chakra affinity.

Mei, Itachi, Kabuto, and Kakashi can all summon their own Suiton, and Suiton isn't even their chakra affinity. Suiton is Zabuza's chakra affinity.

Mist ninja, even including Mei, were shown to use Hidden Mist Jutsu by expelling it from their mouths. Zabuza can use Hidden Mist Jutsu without expelling it from his mouth or having a preexisting water source nearby, showing his skill in utilizing Suiton.

Also, it is shown that all shinobi can perform a basic element to some extent, shown when every ninja used a Doton wall. So, that proves Zabuza can already summon his own water. But since Suiton is Zabuza's natural affinity, he can use and summon way more Suiton than ninja who don't have Water Release.


In closure, Zabuza can obviously summon his own Suiton, capable of using Water Dragon Bullet and Giant Vortex Jutsu without a nearby water source because even fodders can use B-rank Suiton to summon their own water.

Agreed?

 

[Mypower]

You do make a good point, but most people Kakashi, Kakazu, Itachi can make water too.

 

[Hypemaster]

Probably gets it from the water molecules in the atmosphere

 

[Haru70]

Probably gets it from the water molecules in the atmosphere

I was about to say the same thing ^. Water in the air was mentioned at one point. They don't literally "create" water.

 

[ShaneEyyy]

You do make a good point, but most people Kakashi, Kakazu, Itachi can make water too.

Exactly, every Water Release user can make their own water. As we just found out recently, all shinobi are able to use Doton to some extent so they can all use Suiton to some extent. So shinobi that actually have Water Release affinity can use more higher ranked Suiton like B-rank and A-rank

 

[ShaneEyyy]

Probably gets it from the water molecules in the atmosphere

I was about to say the same thing ^. Water in the air was mentioned at one point. They don't literally "create" water.

Who cares? You ignored all my other points.

 

[ll BL4CKM00N ll]

Agreed. People really like to underrate zabuza

 

[blackstar9]

water is one of darui chakra nature . Lightning and water = gale style . When i think of making water i think of kisame water bubble . not something small like waterwall

 

[ShaneEyyy]

water is one of darui chakra nature . Lightning and water = gale style . When i think of making water i think of kisame water bubble . not something small like waterwall

Way to only focus on what I said about Darui...

You think making water is only considered as Kisame's water bubble or similar size? Dude that's the largest Suiton in the whole series. Water Wall is of course small compared to it but it's still summoning enough water to use techs like Water Dragon Bullet

 

[Haru70]

Who cares? You ignored all my other points.

No, I didn't. Your points were valid, I was simply addressing some terminology in case people took your words the wrong way.

 

[Hypemaster]

Who cares? You ignored all my other points.

pretty much

 

[kakashi owns all]

can he summon it on the scale he would need for dragon or vortex ?

No i dont think he can

 

[blackstar9]

Way to only focus on what I said about Darui...

You think making water is only considered as Kisame's water bubble or similar size? Dude that's the largest Suiton in the whole series. Water Wall is of course small compared to it but it's still summoning enough water to use techs like Water Dragon Bullet

if you consider using a small jutsu like water wall summonming water then o.k. i think of that as using a small scale water style jutsu . zabuza himself only used existing water ! but i guess we interpret summoning water different

 

[Naruto D Luffy]

I think so.......

 

[ShaneEyyy]

No, I didn't. Your points were valid, I was simply addressing some terminology in case people took your words the wrong way.

Oh in that case, thanks, you're a great guy

pretty much

Yeah cause you're gay af

can he summon it on the scale he would need for dragon or vortex ?

No i dont think he can

It was shown Water Wall is what u need to use Water Dragon Jutsu, so if fodders can use Water Wall, of course Zabuza can summon that amount of water and use Water Dragon Jutsu.

Giant Vortex Jutsu, I kinda agree. I mean if Zabuza wanted to he probably could but it would more than likely use up most of his chakra so I doubt he'd ever use it without a source.

if you consider using a small jutsu like water wall summonming water then o.k. i think of that as using a small scale water style jutsu . zabuza himself only used existing water ! but i guess we interpret summoning water different

It's alright, we're both good guys so it's cool.

 

[chopstickchakra]

I don't know why some members on here don't think Zabuza can summon his own water.

Zabuza is a great Suiton user, being able to use A-rank Suiton (Giant Vortex Jutsu). Water trumpet, only a C-rank Suiton, requires the user to expel their own water:

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If a Rock Ninja is able to expel their own water, then Zabuza, a Mist ninja who can use more difficult Suiton is clearly able too as well.

Even Yahiko as a little kid was able to perform Water Style: Wild Water Wave, a C-rank move that is considered a basic Suiton technique:

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The Demon Brothers that we all consider fodders were able to create their own water:

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Even nameless fodder Mist ninja were able to summon their own water using Water Wall, a B-rank Suiton:

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This technique, like Hidden Mist Jutsu, seems to be a signature move of Kirigakure. Zabuza can more than likely use it. Darui can even use Water Wall, and it's not even his chakra affinity.

Mei, Itachi, Kabuto, and Kakashi can all summon their own Suiton, and Suiton isn't even their chakra affinity. Suiton is Zabuza's chakra affinity.

Mist ninja, even including Mei, were shown to use Hidden Mist Jutsu by expelling it from their mouths. Zabuza can use Hidden Mist Jutsu without expelling it from his mouth or having a preexisting water source nearby, showing his skill in utilizing Suiton.

Also, it is shown that all shinobi can perform a basic element to some extent, shown when every ninja used a Doton wall. So, that proves Zabuza can already summon his own water. But since Suiton is Zabuza's natural affinity, he can use and summon way more Suiton than ninja who don't have Water Release.


In closure, Zabuza can obviously summon his own Suiton, capable of using Water Dragon Bullet and Giant Vortex Jutsu without a nearby water source because even fodders can use B-rank Suiton to summon their own water.

Agreed?

Four things I wanna point out.

1) Zabuza is awesome

2) There is a translation error in your images. In your first image the rock ninja is using "water element-water Horn" TL Note: suiton Mizu rappa. Then the yahiko page says "suiton -Mizu Rappa" TL Note: Water Element- Chaos Wave. So they are doing the same jutsu which is Mizu Rappa despite what it translates to they are using the same tech. Which leads me to 3.

3) If a child is doing the jutsu the child is either gifted or the adult is low level. Mizu rappa does not appear to be any kind of special suiton.

4) Just because he is a rock ninja doesn't mean he isn't a good suiton user. A persons location doesn't determine their skills as a ninja.

 

[Owarij]

There should be no doubt that Zabuza is capable of such a thing.. It's just that, In part 1, spitting water from your mouth and using a jutsu was a noteworthy feat hyped as something Hokage would be capable of.. in part 2 I imagine Kishi changed his mind, when every random ninja pulled off the same feat as Tobirama...

 

[jiggs0032]

i agree he can form water from the water in the air, it was mentioned. when he used hidden mist jutsu, he was by a source of water both times. the first there was a lake behind them and the second they were on the bridge with water beneath them

 

[ShaneEyyy]

i agree he can form water from the water in the air, it was mentioned. when he used hidden mist jutsu, he was by a source of water both times. the first there was a lake behind them and the second they were on the bridge with water beneath them

When he used it when he was resurrected he used it without a water source. And no he wasn't just able to because he was edo being edo gives u unlimited amount of chakra. It's not like using mist without a source would take up all of Zabuza's chakra that's retarded haha

Four things I wanna point out.

1) Zabuza is awesome

2) There is a translation error in your images. In your first image the rock ninja is using "water element-water Horn" TL Note: suiton Mizu rappa. Then the yahiko page says "suiton -Mizu Rappa" TL Note: Water Element- Chaos Wave. So they are doing the same jutsu which is Mizu Rappa despite what it translates to they are using the same tech. Which leads me to 3.

3) If a child is doing the jutsu the child is either gifted or the adult is low level. Mizu rappa does not appear to be any kind of special suiton.

4) Just because he is a rock ninja doesn't mean he isn't a good suiton user. A persons location doesn't determine their skills as a ninja.

On 3., The technique is a C-rank basic Suiton...so the child isn't gifted and the adult was just using it to enhance another jutsu.

On 4. Yeah ik but I was saying it wasn't the rock ninja's natural affinity like it is for Zabuza.

There should be no doubt that Zabuza is capable of such a thing.. It's just that, In part 1, spitting water from your mouth and using a jutsu was a noteworthy feat hyped as something Hokage would be capable of.. in part 2 I imagine Kishi changed his mind, when every random ninja pulled off the same feat as Tobirama...

Exactly. I think Kishi figured if all other elements were capable of being used without any type of source nearby, Suiton should too because it's on the same level. It shouldn't be more difficult to use Water element than other elements because they are all considered basic elements.

 

[chopstickchakra]

When he used it when he was resurrected he used it without a water source. And no he wasn't just able to because he was edo being edo gives u unlimited amount of chakra. It's not like using mist without a source would take up all of Zabuza's chakra that's retarded haha



On 3., The technique is a C-rank basic Suiton...so the child isn't gifted and the adult was just using it to enhance another jutsu.

On 4. Yeah ik but I was saying it wasn't the rock ninja's natural affinity like it is for Zabuza.

Right now put 3&4 together as I should have, The rock ninja was only using a c level suiton which is reasonable for someone with that chakra nature. Remember affinity only means "original" or "birth" ability like Sasuke's affinity is Fire(katon) but he also learned lightning nature(ration)

So the rock ninja could learn suiton and then use ac level suiton I don't see a problem there, and yes if that rock ninja can make water so can Zabuza, but to be fair I think that jutsu he used used the moisture in the body and intensified it to make a water stream, as opposed to the description of Tobirama who was said to gather moisture from the air to make water to use his jutsu.

I do think Zabuza can do techs like that though, in fact I would say that the Hidden Mist Jutsu is a form of using moisture in the air to create water(granted it's ony mist not a force of water) because Zabuza basically creates the heavy mist which isn't present before his jutsu so I think that would countas proof he can "create" water.

Realistically though no Suiton user yet, even Tobirma, has "made" water they just use the most miniscule amounts of moisture imaginable, they would have to fight in a room that was dehumidified and had no water sources to see if they could truly "create" water, but as I said they should be able to use their sweat, saliva or any other liquid in the body.

I'd like to see a Suiton jutsu where the enemy controls the water in a persons body and kills them, kind of like what Magneto can do with Iron.