[VS] Zabuza and Neji vs Darui and Kakashi

[EZQ]

Team 2 takes this easily....

Darui and Kakashi are both low-mid kage level.

Zabuza and Neji are mid-high jounin level.

Lol no. Darui is not Kage level, nor is part 1 Kakashi. And how does that decide the outcome of this matchup?

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Even if you make this P2 Kakashi (no Kamui), it changes nothing. Kakashi couldnt blitz Edo Zab (needed to back stab him) so I have no reason to believe his improvement is going to change the match up. And no evidence Darui moves faster then Kakashi.

Once that mist is set up, Neji uses his x-ray vision and takes them out. Simple

Byakugan can't see through chakra (i.e. Neji getting fooled by Naruto's clone), similar to the Sharingan.

This dude just outright stated Byakugan has the same insight as Sharingan. Yet alone ignored the fact that Sharingan does not have XRAY vision like the Byakugan

Link where Kakashi needed a "sample" when he was fighting him close range for the longest. Idiot.

Yet in Pt.II Naruto said Kakashi's knows >> Kiba's. Dumb Zabuza wanker. Get your facts straight.
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This dude just outright ignored their 2nd battle against each other where Kakashi couldnt canonically rely on his nose against Edo Zabuza, even when he approved.

 

[Byakuren]

Even if you make this P2 Kakashi (no Kamui), it changes nothing. Kakashi couldnt blitz Edo Zab (needed to back stab him) so I have no reason to believe his improvement is going to change the match up. And no evidence Darui moves faster then Kakashi.

Once that mist is set up, Neji uses his x-ray vision and takes them out. Simple



This dude just outright stated Byakugan has the same insight as Sharingan. Yet alone ignored the fact that Sharingan does not have XRAY vision like the Byakugan



This dude just outright ignored their 2nd battle against each other where Kakashi couldnt canonically rely on his nose against Edo Zabuza, even when he approved.

Show me where Byakugan has seen through complete chakra.. Oh wait, it hasn't until proven otherwise. If that were the case, Neji would've been able to decipher which clone was Naruto, and ended the fight. Stupid. Show me said scan of Kakashi not being able to rely on his nose. Go.

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[Brother Numpsay]

Show me where Byakugan has seen through complete chakra.Oh wait, it hasn't until proven otherwise. If that were the case, Neji would've been able to decipher which clone was Naruto, and ended the fight. Stupid.

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Your example is just as stupid. How does not deciphering a clone have anything to do with the fact that Byaukgan has x ray vision lol?

Show me said scan of Kakashi not being able to rely on his nose. Go.

Lol no Im not going to start posting whole chapters for you. You GO and actually read them yourself. Start reading from Chapter 521 to 523

 

[Byakuren]

Kijin strikes once again

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Your example is just as stupid. How does not deciphering a clone have anything to do with the fact that Byaukgan has x ray vision lol?



Lol no Im not going to start posting whole chapters for you. You GO and actually read them yourself. Start reading from Chapter 521 to 523

Are you stupid? The Sharingan has X-Ray vision as well (i.e. Sasuke seeing through the ground to pinpoint the landmines). Sharingan, and Byakugan cannot see through complete chakra. The Byakugan would only see pure chakra, if Byakugan's usage was attempted in Hidden Mist, the chakra would cloud it's sight similar to how it did vs Kakashi. Stop being an idiot, and use your brain Numpsay. Go link the scan you moron, or you have no point.

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[EZQ]

Even if you make this P2 Kakashi (no Kamui), it changes nothing. Kakashi couldnt blitz Edo Zab (needed to back stab him) so I have no reason to believe his improvement is going to change the match up. And no evidence Darui moves faster then Kakashi.

Once that mist is set up, Neji uses his x-ray vision and takes them out. Simple



This dude just outright stated Byakugan has the same insight as Sharingan. Yet alone ignored the fact that Sharingan does not have XRAY vision like the Byakugan



This dude just outright ignored their 2nd battle against each other where Kakashi couldnt canonically rely on his nose against Edo Zabuza, even when he approved.

To be fair, i doubt edos have "scent". But i agree, in their first encounter Kakashi couldn't use his nose, and he needed a trace on Zabuza to use his dogs.

And yes, changing it to war arc Kakashi does make a difference. Kakashi in part 1 could react to Zabuza's blows. Zabuza is simply not taking down war arc Kakashi who has more reflexes and actual speed than the Kakashi he faced.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

And this is why I notice people having limited patience arguing with you.

Are you stupid? The Sharingan has X-Ray vision as well (i.e. Sasuke seeing through the ground to pinpoint the landmines).

Difference between Byakugan and Sharingan vision[

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]. Byaukgan literally has x ray vision while Sharingan only see what gives out chakra.

Sharingan, and Byakugan cannot see through complete chakra. The Byakugan would only see pure chakra, if Byakugan's usage was attempted in Hidden Mist, the chakra would cloud it's sight similar to how it did vs Kakashi.

Kakashi outright stated that Byakugan has more penetrated eyes then Sharingan. This is common knowledge to manga readers and yet here you are arguing against it.

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Context- Kakashi request:

Assemble sensory group to counter Zabuza's mist

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Context- Kakashi request:
Buy him some time to think of a plan countering Zabuza Mist issue.
Request Santa taking over his body for sensory.

To be fair, i doubt edos have "scent". But i agree, in their first encounter Kakashi couldn't use his nose, and he needed a trace on Zabuza to use his dogs.

And yes, changing it to war arc Kakashi does make a difference. Kakashi in part 1 could react to Zabuza's blows. Zabuza is simply not taking down war arc Kakashi who has more reflexes and actual speed than the Kakashi he faced.

Um Hiruzen tracked Edo Hashirama and Edo Tobirama with scent.

It makes a difference but doesnt change the outcome of this team match up

 

[EZQ]

And this is why I notice people having limited patience arguing with you.



Difference between Byakugan and Sharingan vision[

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]. Byaukgan literally has x ray vision while Sharingan only see what gives out chakra.



Kakashi outright stated that Byakugan has more penetrated eyes then Sharingan. This is common knowledge to manga readers and yet here you are arguing against it.

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Context- Kakashi request:

Assemble sensory group to counter Zabuza's mist

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Context- Kakashi request:
Buy him some time to think of a plan countering Zabuza Mist issue.
Request Santa taking over his body for sensory.



Um Hiruzen tracked Edo Hashirama and Edo Tobirama with scent.

It makes a difference but doesnt change the outcome of this team match up

Hm.. i completely forgot about that, you're right.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Only a moron would argue that. Naruto obviously shits.

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Thanks for letting me know bro.

 

[neosmith500]

Interesting match-up but im easily wavering more over to Team1 due to the combos they can employ while simultaneously having full situational awareness of their surroundings. Darui is easily at risk of getting smoked out by a silent kill as Kakashi only managed to accomplish that much greatly due to the sharingan which gets hindered by the mist and the moment anyone gets within 10m of Neji they get Air palmed which can be simultaneously followed up with a shunshin slice by Zabuza while whoever is blown off their feet with the mist there to greatly enhance its usage.

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[unknownvillain1254]

Byakugan can't see through chakra (i.e. Neji getting fooled by Naruto's clone), similar to the Sharingan. Link where Kakashi needed a "sample" when he was fighting him close range for the longest. Idiot. Yet in Pt.II Naruto said Kakashi's knows >> Kiba's. Dumb Zabuza wanker. Get your facts straight.

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That's actually quite funny because byakugan see through the mist so that's funny u are a nood sit down

 

[unknownvillain1254]

Team 2 takes this easily....

Darui and Kakashi are both low-mid kage level.

Zabuza and Neji are mid-high jounin level.

Team 1 stomp

 

[EZQ]

Interesting match-up but im easily wavering more over to Team1 due to the combos they can employ while simultaneously having full situational awareness of their surroundings. Darui is easily at risk of getting smoked out by a silent kill as Kakashi only managed to accomplish that much greatly due to the sharingan which gets hindered by the mist and the moment anyone gets within 10m of Neji they get Air palmed which can be simultaneously followed up with a shunshin slice by Zabuza while whoever is blown off their feet with the mist there to greatly enhance its usage.

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You know we could tag team this shit lol i was on the fence for someone who brought real arguments for team 2 but it didn't happen.

 

[KidGamer65]

Kijin/DrProof is acting so edgy as of late.

 

[neosmith500]

You know we could tag team this shit lol i was on the fence for someone who brought real arguments for team 2 but it didn't happen.

LOL that combo too savage man , Sight and Sound both correlated into one epic combo and if u drop Kiba and Shino on the team it then becomes symbolic LOL.

 

[EliteKakashi]

Biggest problem with this matchup is Darui probably gets taken out pretty easily in the mist. Zabuza will have the knowledge that despite the mist, Kakashi can still react to their attacks thanks to his sharingan

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, so it would seem the likely strategy would be for them to double team Darui and get rid of him, then double team Kakashi. Zabuza knows it would be foolish to try and attack Kakashi with his sword, as drawing blood would spell his doom, so he'd likely need Neji to take out Kakashi, or at least distract him enough for Zabuza to get a killing blow in.

If Kakashi and Darui stay close, they might have a chance. It could possibly also be argued that the nindogs still remember Zabuza/his scent, but that's just a theoretical argument.

This fight would be a lot more interesting had you made it Part 2 Kakashi, even restricting his kamui. Giving him his raiton clone could be a game changer here.