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Crap you're right Janemba isn't canon but he must be hell of a strong character if he's a Reality Warper. Buu busted a Galaxy in the same work as Broly as you couldn't see them actually doing the feat and that was an actual episode not filler dude. Even if that might have not of been right about Raditz but at least that impressive feat is being mentioned. You have words fling around in DBZ like Solar System, Galaxy, and Universe. Did you even see the Movie? I've have never seen anyone travel like how Bills traveled because he warped with his mentor so fast that a massive beam of light shot right up into the sky. That is so impressive and he is way beyond FTL because he got to King Kai in mins. If only i could show you some screen shots but i can't be asked to. Bills dosen''t need regeneration because he can't be hurt anyway.

Majin Buu regeneration is at the highest quality because you need a technique as powerful as the Spirit Bomb+ adding force to the Bomb to take him down. Could Z get rid of Buu? I doubt it he stops at him. Some DBZ characters can't be erased from existence. Do you know how many people have posted Bills solos? It's crazy because he couldn't beat Buu never mind the God of Destruction. I'm not saying DBZ is the strongest but it has to be one of the strongest out there.
I want to scream. For one bills is no where close to unable to be hurt. Two janemba is a MATTER MANIPULATOR. HE DID NOT RWARP. Yes, buu can't regenerate from being atomized or turned into a singularity at faster than light speeds. Tanking planet busting attacks does not make you unable to be hurt in NO WAY WHATSOEVER. Bills is only 1,016 times FTL.

Broly didn't bust anything, he was turning the planets to wastelands and busting them. Being destroyed was a dub line, the real line was under attack. Goku TELEPORTED there. Buu did bust it in the same manner.

Also, buu's regen is not high at all. He can't regen from a particle.
 

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Crap you're right Janemba isn't canon but he must be hell of a strong character if he's a Reality Warper. Buu busted a Galaxy in the same work as Broly as you couldn't see them actually doing the feat and that was an actual episode not filler dude. Even if that might have not of been right about Raditz but at least that impressive feat is being mentioned. You have words fling around in DBZ like Solar System, Galaxy, and Universe. Did you even see the Movie? I've have never seen anyone travel like how Bills traveled because he warped with his mentor so fast that a massive beam of light shot right up into the sky. That is so impressive and he is way beyond FTL because he got to King Kai in mins. If only i could show you some screen shots but i can't be asked to. Bills dosen''t need regeneration because he can't be hurt anyway.

Majin Buu regeneration is at the highest quality because you need a technique as powerful as the Spirit Bomb+ adding force to the Bomb to take him down. Could Z get rid of Buu? I doubt it he stops at him. Some DBZ characters can't be erased from existence. Do you know how many people have posted Bills solos? It's crazy because he couldn't be Buu never mind the God of Destruction. I'm not saying DBZ is the strongest but it has to be one of the strongest out there.
Cell with regeneration got beat by a kamehameha. Buu was beat by a spirit bomb. Z can do the same with a simple touch. He can erase you from existence. Bills got to King Kai in minutes. Z got from earth to saturn in a second. Z easily gets rid of Buu. The regeneration in Tenchi Myuo is>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Dbz. Z can negate regeneration. Meaning he can make you unable to regenerate. He isn't stopping at Buu. He clears the whole verse. Your merely stating your own opinions. Z>Dbzverse=fact.

Janemba didn't Reality warp btw.

Buu gets turned into dust along with all of the Dbz characters. Seriously, this guy shits on you with a touch.
 
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No, it's not top 10 strongest in even anime. Anime's top 10 is composed of MULTIVERSE BUSTERS. Planet - Solar System busting is NOTHING. Not being ripped apart by the planet level attacks, sure good feat in the DBZverse, but once you're being ripped on a molecular level or sucked in by a black hole spawned above your skull it's not good then. Let's take a few characters contested for Top 10. Before I do this, Janemba is a MATTER MANIPULATOR, no one is intangible as tangible beings are allowed to exist on snake way and king kai's planet, no one is immortal but souls and fodders like Kami either, they can be granted type 4 immortality though. Now, top 10s.

Kami Tenchi:
Absolute infinite power, omnipresent, omniscient, cannot be killed by any means
Noein:
Multiversal control and absorbtion
Dragon God:
Was on the verge of destroying an entire infinitely spanning multiverse just by unleashing it's energy
Demonbane:
Can kill you 400 million times by looking at you before you were born, can spawn a clone of himself from every possible universe, can easily rip universes and dimensions apart, so much times faster than light he appears omnipresent, cosmic energy manipulation
Eucliwood Hellscythe:
Unkillable, can speak anything she wants into reality, her words are the string of faith and one mere word from her can change all of creation, eventually destroying all of it if gone out of hand
Haruka Kaminogi:
quantum reality warping, multiversal swapping and control, can become omnipresent, near-omniscient, whatever she wills or says will instantly happen no matter how sane
That's harsh. Feats are not everything because fights can be won by simple actions as well. What about top 20 then? Does DBZ belong in the top 20 strongest Anime verses? I still think it's top 10 but you think otherwise. Galaxy busting is something though? A Galaxy is huge.

Evidence that Janemba is a Reality Warper. Scroll down to techniques and special abilities and you will see Reality Manipulation. He's not just a matter manipulator which is Physical Mass Manipulation.



Evidence that there is a Intangible character in DBZ. Scroll down again and you will see a technique called Dark Eyes. That makes Hirudegarn Intangible.




There are actually a few characters that are Immortal in DBZ. Garlic Jr, Mr Popo, and so on. Garlic actually got sucked into a portal and he still trapped inside alive. Garlic Jr. Immortality is at it's highest. Level 5 baby!



Molecular level won't work on Bills because he he can't be hurt. Ok, i've shown you evidence and seems that your opinion is baseless and incorrect. It's up to you if you want to accept these facts or still stick to your opinion.
 
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That's harsh. Feats are not everything because fights can be won by simple actions as well. What about top 20 then? Does DBZ belong in the top 20 strongest Anime verses? I still think it's top 10 but you think otherwise. Galaxy busting is something though? A Galaxy is huge.

Evidence that Janemba is a Reality Warper. Scroll down to techniques and special abilities and you will see Reality Manipulation. He's not just a matter manipulator which is Physical Mass Manipulation.



Evidence that there is a Intangible character in DBZ. Scroll down again and you will see a technique called Dark Eyes. That makes Hiru Intangible.




There are actually a few characters that are Immortal in DBZ. Garlic Jr, Mr Popo, and so on. Garlic actually got sucked into a portal and he still trapped inside alive. Garlic Jr. Immortality is at it's highest. Level 5 baby!



Molecular level won't work on Bills because he he can't be hurt. Ok, i've shown you evidence and seems that your opinion is baseless and incorrect. It's up to you if you want to accept these facts or still stick to your opinion.
They're type 1 immortal, living a long time.

Galaxy Busting is nothing, dbz characters can't do it for one (busting a galaxy isn't going from planet to planet), second the uuniverse is composed of over 100 billion galaxies and there are countless that make the milky way look like an ant to a 6'5 man..

Matter Manipulating is also transmutation, LOL

Top 20 and 30 are saint seiya who destroy shit on atomic scales and Haruhi.

And hirudegarn got defeated by a tangible being.

They can't be won by simple actions when someone can tank the BIG BANG.

Bills durability is small star level+ and that's pushing it. Tanking planet level attacks is nothing, what do you not get about this? Galactus tanked the restating of the universe via the big bang.

I'm convinced that you're trolling so I'm just going to stop here.
 

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They're type 1 immortal, living a long time.

Galaxy Busting is nothing, dbz characters can't do it for one (busting a galaxy isn't going from planet to planet), second the uuniverse is composed of over 100 billion galaxies and there are countless that make the milky way look like an ant to a 6'5 man..

Matter Manipulating is also transmutation, LOL

Top 20 and 30 are saint seiya who destroy shit on atomic scales and Haruhi.

And hirudegarn got defeated by a tangible being.

They can't be won by simple actions when someone can tank the BIG BANG.

Bills durability is small star level+ and that's pushing it. Tanking planet level attacks is nothing, what do you not get about this? Galactus tanked the restating of the universe via the big bang.

I'm convinced that you're trolling so I'm just going to stop here.
Garlic Jr. will live for the infinite length of time, that's max Immortality. I watched DBZ Battle of Gods in Japanese Dub and i can tell you this.........Bills is way above Galaxy level because there is a line in the Movie when Bills mentor states that if Bills gets upset anytime the Galaxy will erase instantly. So by him just being upset he can erase billions of Galaxies instantly in a staggering record time due to his speed and instant erase of a Galaxy. Imagine if he was bloodlusted and showed his full power? What kind of destruction would he cause then? I knew you would ignore the evidence i provided like a silly muppet that you are. Hirudegarn got beaten because he was tangible. He has to be tangible to attack because if he stays Intangible all the time how is he going to hit anyone? Goku exposed his weakness but if Hirudegarn stays Intangible it would be impossible for Goku to beat him. What have i told you? Bills can't be hurt at all so he can easily win by simple actions if he wanted to. Durability dosen't matter with Bills because he can't be hurt or damaged in anyway. OBD is making you look like a troll because they don't know he can't be hurt either. Galactus got beat by the Fantastic Four. You overrate him like you overrate most characters.
Theres no point having a debate with someone as deluded as you because you can't even accept evidence, not to mention you can't handle other people's opinions.

Afraid not, buu was removing them one by one. Raditz was flying to his destinations, do you know how fast the speed of light is? 300,000 km/s, 186,282 miles per second, can cross the solar system in 15 minutes and the earth 7 times in one second. The only character faster than light is Bills who has flown across galaxies. Buu was removing planets and stars over a period of time. No, he does get past buu with NEGATIVe difficulty. He turns buu into a singularity or molecularizes or Atomizes him.



How about Buu turns him into Candy or Cookie? Wouldn't that be fun? Buu could turn him into something practical, in his stomach. Can he resist transmuation? Nope. I know the math muppet but i believe DBZ characters besides Bills and his mentor are way above FTL. Really, this is not your opinion on DBZ unlike me. You got all this information from the OBD about DBZ. Learn how to conjure up your own opinion because the OBD is messing with you. I know Bills and his Master are way beyond FTL and so are other DBZ characters. Watch the episode in the Buu Saga when he destroys a Galaxy and then you'll learn what's right. He's still not getting bast Buu in my opinion.




Lets not forget, the Ushi character that was with Bills is even stronger than Bills is, Bills tells Kakarot that he's his teacher at the end of the movie
Indeed. He acts so innocent when his power must be truly frightening. His power would make most fictional characters tremble in fear. I suppose you watched the Movie unlike this brat i'm debating with lol a brat that's lost this debate in actual fact.
 
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Garlic Jr. will live for the infinite length of time, that's max Immortality. I watched DBZ Battle of Gods in Japanese Dub and i can tell you this.........Bills is way above Galaxy level because there is a line in the Movie when Bills mentor states that if Bills gets upset anytime the Galaxy will erase instantly. So by him just being upset he can erase billions of Galaxies instantly in a staggering record time due to his speed and instant erase of a Galaxy. Imagine if he was bloodlusted and showed his full power? What kind of destruction would he cause then? I knew you would ignore the evidence i provided like a silly muppet that you are. Hirudegarn got beaten because he was tangible. He has to be tangible to attack because if he stays Intangible all the time how is he going to hit anyone? Goku exposed his weakness but if Hirudegarn stays Intangible it would be impossible for Goku to beat him. What have i told you? Bills can't be hurt at all so he can easily win by simple actions if he wanted to. Durability dosen't matter with Bills because he can't be hurt or damaged in anyway. OBD is making you look like a troll because they don't know he can't be hurt either. Galactus got beat by the Fantastic Four. You overrate him like you overrate most characters.
Theres no point having a debate with someone as deluded as you because you can't even accept evidence, not to mention you can't handle other people's opinions.






How about Buu turns him into Candy or Cookie? Wouldn't that be fun? Buu could turn him into something practical, in his stomach. Can he resist transmuation? Nope. I know the math muppet but i believe DBZ characters besides Bills and his mentor are way above FTL. Really, this is not your opinion on DBZ unlike me. You got all this information from the OBD about DBZ. Learn how to conjure up your own opinion because the OBD is messing with you. I know Bills and his Master are way beyond FTL and so are other DBZ characters. Watch the episode in the Buu Saga when he destroys a Galaxy and then you'll learn what's right. He's still not getting bast Buu in my opinion.






Indeed. He acts so innocent when his power must be truly frightening. His power would make most fictional characters tremble in fear. I suppose you watched the Movie unlike this brat i'm debating with lol a brat that's lost this debate in actual fact.
Indeed I did, and at the end the Ushi dude knocks Bills out and tells him to sleep it off for a few years with just 1 chop, I shudder to imagine how strong that guy is
 

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Indeed I did, and at the end the Ushi dude knocks Bills out and tells him to sleep it off for a few years with just 1 chop, I shudder to imagine how strong that guy is
Yep, knocked him out as if Bills was his pet. It really is beyond our wildest imagination how powerful Uisu is.

I want to scream. For one bills is no where close to unable to be hurt. Two janemba is a MATTER MANIPULATOR. HE DID NOT RWARP. Yes, buu can't regenerate from being atomized or turned into a singularity at faster than light speeds. Tanking planet busting attacks does not make you unable to be hurt in NO WAY WHATSOEVER. Bills is only 1,016 times FTL.

Broly didn't bust anything, he was turning the planets to wastelands and busting them. Being destroyed was a dub line, the real line was under attack. Goku TELEPORTED there. Buu did bust it in the same manner.

Also, buu's regen is not high at all. He can't regen from a particle.
I want to scream as well. Well, you need to watch the Movie because Bills dosen't get hurt at all. I showed you evidence that Janemba is a Reality Warper dude. It's not about tanking planet busting attacks because Bills is impossible to be hurt or damaged because he's Invulnerable. Plain and simple. The definition of that word states that it's impossible for you to be hurt so durability dosen't even play a factor with Bills. Broly destroyed the Galaxy besides a few Planets and that's why Goku was on one of them Planets. Buu's regeneration is very high and Bills being way beyond FTL is very impressive. The thing with you is that you're blinded and you should blame the OBD for all your false and baseless opinions. OBD is one of the worst sites on the web.
 
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Wow that's brutal. I'd say it's best to just gauge it by what you like. I like how totally bent out of shape some people get on here about stuff lol
Seriously, the site is garbage. If i was in charge of that goddamn site i would shut it down because its blinding people from the truth. I dont understand how those idiots conjure up such ridiculous trash when it comes down to DBZ characters. I will give you one example of what they think a DBZ characters destructive capacity is. They said that Gogeta at best is a multi planet buster! what rubbish because characters where multi planet busters at the early stages of DBZ so how can Gogeta only be capable of that? Frieza is a multi planet buster so they think Gogeta is on the same level as Frieza. What rubbish and thats why that site is blinding children that we debate with from the truth. Gogeta has to be above Universe level.
 

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Seriously, the site is garbage. If i was in charge of that goddamn site i would shut it down because its blinding people from the truth. I dont understand how those idiots conjure up such ridiculous trash when it comes down to DBZ characters. I will give you one example of what they think a DBZ characters destructive capacity is. They said that Gogeta at best is a multi planet buster! what rubbish because characters where multi planet busters at the early stages of DBZ so how can Gogeta only be capable of that? Frieza is a multi planet buster so they think Gogeta is on the same level as Frieza. What rubbish and thats why that site is blinding children that we debate with from the truth. Gogeta has to be above Universe level.
yes screw that site
 

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Seriously, the site is garbage. If i was in charge of that goddamn site i would shut it down because its blinding people from the truth. I dont understand how those idiots conjure up such ridiculous trash when it comes down to DBZ characters. I will give you one example of what they think a DBZ characters destructive capacity is. They said that Gogeta at best is a multi planet buster! what rubbish because characters where multi planet busters at the early stages of DBZ so how can Gogeta only be capable of that? What rubbish and thats why that site is blinding children that we debate with from the truth. Gogeta has to be above Universe level.
GOT detected! GTFO of here if you're not gonna state valid points, the calculations done on OBD are accepted all around multiple sites, who the fuk gives a shit if you u think their invalid? whereas they're done via pixel scaling, mathmatical related calc's and using physic equations, to quantify exact level of feats and amount of force exerted, just cause u , out of a hundred doesnt like it or uses the Inital calc's from it, doesnt mean everyone does since almost all the calc's are accepted and quantifiable, and used by countless people. And use it to calc superiority/inferiority among crossovers, it's used across MANY anime hosting sites so no. Although some calc's are off, but yours are even worse since u just come and say they're universe busters based on ur own intuition ...so far we haven't even seen DBZ characters destroy solar systems CASUALLY!.

With ur logic, known universe busters should be omniversal then.

Gogeta ain't universal, he's isn't destroying all the 170 billions+ galaxy and 300 trillions stars, ur own precastorous claim, when ur labelling DC, u quantify how they can do it with a singular level scale of attack ...

Frieza is a multi planet buster so they think Gogeta is on the same level as Frieza.
Show me how early stages dragon ball can multi planet bust? Freiza had trouble destroying namek entirely with one charged blast, being as it was a much larger planet then earth, regarding circumference and all ...when ur labelling multi planet busting ur naming how he can destroy multiple planets (usually two or more, with probably no size differences) with a high scale singular attack..

No one is dragon ball z is doing shit to Z..

Come on, he beat a SSJ3 Goku with only two hits! He would win no problem at all
No he wouldn't, to someone who has universal level durability? And can entirely transform into optical light and resisted a dimesnion warp from a nigh omni just fine...

Universe busters because no one has done so in the Manga or Anime but theres quotes and Power Levels that suggest otherwise
They're hyperboles, since there is no logic whatsoever in their claims to prove they are..

So you're saying that the Raditz quote of him being above FTL wrong?
Yeah it is, since it wasn't stated neither in the manga or the sub, it was a mis translation..

Goku is a liar when he said that Janemba would erase the Universe
An obvious hyperbole, anyone with enough brain cells can tell he's no where near universal...

Frieza 100% Form solos
If you're a noob to this kinda stuff, then sure he does.

But it has to be somewhere in the top 10
Nope, since the top 10's can be filled with nigh omni's who are above mutli versal level

Majin Buu regeneration is at the highest quality
No it isn't, majin buu regenerates on a cellular level, and Z can destroy items on an atomic scale..he completely negated the moon on an atomic level, more then half of it, the the moon in comparison to earth is 1/4 the size, and that's more then a continent scale attack by only pointing is hand ....

How about Buu turns him into Candy or Cookie? Wouldn't that be fun
To someone who's moving above 1081 times FTL and can decompose himself into optical light nonetheless ...

Bills being way beyond FTL
He's almost reltavistic, he needs whiss's help to FTL travel, if you want to see FTL featured fighting then go and watch diebuster, it shows fighting scenes where they're crossing solar systems in instants..that's FTL fighting, dragon ball z doesn't have that ...


a brat that's lost this debate in actual fact.
No ones lost the debate, instead you've actually lost the debate since you're making repetitive claims one after another, and being a straw man...

Can he resist transmuation?
That's matter manipulation, and he only did it to an egg, light isn't mass or matter, transmutation isn't doing shit..and he Z has the ability to negate matter entirely, he dissolved Mach 70,000+ moving asteroids using his LHW..

Fireplay and XxSasukEkUnxX already explained the concept to u, and including me, that makes three, when more then three people are trying to give u an explanation, ur obviously doing something wrong..
 
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Seriously, the site is garbage. If i was in charge of that goddamn site i would shut it down because its blinding people from the truth. I dont understand how those idiots conjure up such ridiculous trash when it comes down to DBZ characters. I will give you one example of what they think a DBZ characters destructive capacity is. They said that Gogeta at best is a multi planet buster! what rubbish because characters where multi planet busters at the early stages of DBZ so how can Gogeta only be capable of that? Frieza is a multi planet buster so they think Gogeta is on the same level as Frieza. What rubbish and thats why that site is blinding children that we debate with from the truth. Gogeta has to be above Universe level.
The stupidity in this post makes me question human intelligence.
 
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