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1. Love
2. Eyelashes/eyebrows
3. Film

I had books there at first, but to be honest, I think Film is more underrated than books. I think great films can be on the same level as books, but no one really thinks you're sophisticated for being a film buff as opposed to a book buff and things like that. Book clubs are deemed classy, but a film club wouldn't, because films are easier to "get." I think there should be classes on film. Not just how to make film, but classes where you analyze films, just like a class where you would analyze Literature.

Good story telling transcends the medium. Be it literature, film, video games, even anime. All should be respected for their ability to tell a story.
 

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Good story telling transcends the medium. Be it literature, film, video games, even anime. All should be respected for their ability to tell a story.

Yeah, but I feel like movies(and now that you mention it, video games as well), don't get the credit they deserve. While books can give you a great story and sense of imagination, movies can give you a great story and stunning visuals. Video games can you give you great story and a true sense of interaction. I feel like this should put all three in equal standing.
 

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Furthermore, I think that happiness is very overrated. It's esssense is very simple: the're certain hormones in our body that make us happy, synthesized by doing certain and well known actions, and the easiest and straightest way to synthesize them is taking heroin injections. Does it really worth it? I honestly can't understand how can someone consider "happiness" their highest priority in the life. It's so useless, pointless and just... meh.
Life would be pointless without happiness. Everything humans do, essentially, is in the pursuit of happiness. Just because you can break it down with science doesn't actually make happiness any less valuable. If you're not happy you're either empty or miserable and nobody wants that.
 

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Yeah, but I feel like movies(and now that you mention it, video games as well), don't get the credit they deserve. While books can give you a great story and sense of imagination, movies can give you a great story and stunning visuals. Video games can you give you great story and a true sense of interaction. I feel like this should put all three in equal standing.

I'd agree with that. I think the problem is with film itself. If you can appreciate a good book, you can most likely appreciate a film for the story and for art. But look at most people who go to see movies. The like crap like Transformers. They want to be entertained and not think. These people probably don't read books, because they lack visual stimulation. Movies can be art, but art doesn't sell
 

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Life would be pointless without happiness. Everything humans do, essentially, is in the pursuit of happiness. Just because you can break it down with science doesn't actually make happiness any less valuable. If you're not happy you're either empty or miserable and nobody wants that.

I personally believe that people like him who don't place value in happiness do so because they themselves failed to achieve their natural desire for true happiness. So, they say "Happiness doesn't matter anyway" as a defense mechanism to deal with that failure.
 

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Life would be pointless without happiness.

Well, if you truly think so, I feel pity for you, no offence :|

Everything humans do, essentially, is in the pursuit of happiness.

Not really. Everything they do is in the pursiot of fulfilling their natural needs.

Just because you can break it down with science doesn't actually make happiness any less valuable.

Yes, it does. But you need to realize it first, which might not be easy.

If you're not happy you're either empty or miserable.

That's just a baseless opinion. I'm not happy 99% of my life, and I'm very far from being empty, nor miserable.
People who are never happy always try to work on changing the world around, searching for the way to change things they are not happy with.

Being absolutely happy means being absolutely empty and lifeless, as you don't have any reasons to do anything at all - you're already happy.

And those who've found their happiness are becoming trash, which is useless to society and the world just like the said junkies I've mentioned above. It's pretty much the same.

I personally believe that people like him who don't place value in happiness do so because they themselves failed to achieve their natural desire for true happiness. So, they say "Happiness doesn't matter anyway" as a defense mechanism to deal with that failure.

You obviously have a misconception of the terms "happiness" and "inner harmony". But your agressive reaction is fine. Denial is the most common defense mechanism of humans Lol
 
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Education is pretty underrated too, mostly because school became conditioning rather than learning, IMO. It's especially apparent when people say shit like "Wow you took a class in [insert field/subject here], you must know sooo much about it." Like, yes. That's why the classes exist. So you learnand know it.
 

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Education is pretty underrated too, mostly because school became conditioning rather than learning, IMO. It's especially apparent when people say shit like "Wow you took a class in [insert field/subject here], you must know sooo much about it." Like, yes. That's why the classes exist. So you learnand know it.

Well, more like in the sense of people taking for granted going to school and learning to read. There are plenty of people that see going to school as a luxury that they cannot possess. And even basic learning is crucial in most interactions. As someone that values intelligence above all, it's hard to showcase that you can keep a conversation when you can't even make yourself be understood, across multiple cultures.
 

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Well, if you truly think so, I feel pity for you, no offence :|



Not really. Everything they do is in the pursiot of fulfilling their natural needs.



Yes, it does. But you need to realize it first, which might not be easy.



That's just a baseless opinion. I'm not happy 99% of my life, and I'm very far from being empty, nor miserable.
People who are never happy always try to work on changing the world around, searching for the way to change things they are not happy with.

Being absolutely happy means being absolutely empty and lifeless, as you don't have any reasons to do anything at all - you're already happy.

And those who've found their happiness are becoming trash, which is useless to the society just like the said junkies I've mentioned above. It's pretty much the same.



You obviously have a misconception of the terms "happiness" and "inner harmony". But your agressive reaction is fine. Denial is the most common defense mechanism of humans Lol

I'm not being aggressive, that's simply how I see it. I could call you aggressive for your assertions as well. Speaking of which, I disagree. Happiness does not create an empty existence. Happiness is not a goal where once you achieve it, it's "Well, what now." Happiness is something you maintain every day, and it's a feeling that you enjoy every day. Happiness is its own reward that is enjoyed every second you have it. "What can I do to become happy" is simply replaced by "What can I do to maintain happiness and/or share it with those around me." One does not need to lack happiness to look for ways to improve the world around them. No one is going to be happy with 100% of the world, you can still be happy but want to change things.

You are in denial about what happiness is, and its importance.
 

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Well, more like in the sense of people taking for granted going to school and learning to read. There are plenty of people that see going to school as a luxury that they cannot possess. And even basic learning is crucial in most interactions. As someone that values intelligence above all, it's hard to showcase that you can keep a conversation when you can't even make yourself be understood, across multiple cultures.

Yeah. Learning, at the beginning level, basically opens you to a new world. Things you had no idea about before becomes available to you. By starting your education at such a young age, your interests are broad. As such, having a broad scope is good. However, as you grow older and find the things that you are interested in, more often than not you don't get to refine your studies around that. Rather than picking the things you have a passion for and exploring them, in middle and high schools you still get bombarded with wide scopes. This can distance you from the things you have already found interests in, causing them to wilt in the worst case. This especially happens when it comes to mandatory classes. Then, by the time you get to college where you have the ability to pick your classes around your interest, you may have lost the passion or you may end up thinking "What gets me a job" rather than "What am I passionate about" because the former is painfully reinforced and conditioned into you during school. That causes a decrease in the value of education because that makes it something people hate due to stress and burdens.
 

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I'm not being aggressive, that's simply how I see it. I could call you aggressive for your assertions as well. Speaking of which, I disagree. Happiness does not create an empty existence. Happiness is not a goal where once you achieve it, it's "Well, what now." Happiness is something you maintain every day, and it's a feeling that you enjoy every day. Happiness is its own reward that is enjoyed every second you have it. "What can I do to become happy" is simply replaced by "What can I do to maintain happiness and/or share it with those around me." One does not need to lack happiness to look for ways to improve the world around them. No one is going to be happy with 100% of the world, you can still be happy but want to change things.

You are in denial about what happiness is, and its importance.

I found Happiness once. At least that was her stripper name
 

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I'm not being aggressive, that's simply how I see it.

Yes, you are, and that's simply how I see it.

I could call you aggressive for your assertions as well.

That would be a lie of yours, while I've merely stated a fact.

Speaking of which, I disagree.

That's your right, it doesn't matter, really. I didn't post it to prove something, I've posted it to see how many people will really understand my point, and I'm satisfied with the results.

Happiness does not create an empty existence. Happiness is not a goal where once you achieve it, it's "Well, what now." Happiness is something you maintain every day, and it's a feeling that you enjoy every day. Happiness is its own reward that is enjoyed every second you have it. "What can I do to become happy" is simply replaced by "What can I do to maintain happiness and/or share it with those around me."

So, you've just confirmed my point: you don't udnerstand the difference between happiness and inner harmony, definition of which you've just given here. But oh well, no matter. You might be able to get it in time. Or not.

One does not need to lack happiness to look for ways to improve the world around them.

Yes, they do. I've proven it with the examples above. But then again, since you didn't quite understand my point (due to the reasons I've mentioned in the previous quote), further discussion on this matter would be pointless.

No one is going to be happy with 100% of the world
There are lots of people who are happy with it. Quite a nasty sight, if you ask me.

you can still be happy but want to change things.
Nope, you can't. Once again, explained by me in previous posts.

You are in denial about what happiness is, and its importance.
It's funny how you're trying to reverse what I've implied to be traits of your behaviour into being those of mine, a few times by now already :hint: Nice to see confirmation of my conclusions.
 

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Health - usually taken for granted unless there's a problem. And I don't define health as the absence of disease, I mean a state or condition of the body and mind that includes wanting to do things and having the energy or strength to do them and being ok with it all.

Electricity - most of us use it from the moment we wake, and to wake us up, too. It keeps the heat on while we sleep, warms the water for a shower, lights our homes when it's dark outside.

Road trips - driving just because you can and you want to. Music highly recommended :)
 

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Yes, you are, and that's simply how I see it.



That would be a lie of yours, while I've merely stated a fact.



That's your right, it doesn't matter, really. I didn't post it to prove something, I've posted it to see how many people will really understand my point, and I'm satisfied with the results.



So, you've just confirmed my point: you don't udnerstand the difference between happiness and inner harmony, definition of which you've just given here. But oh well, no matter. You might be able to get it in time. Or not.



Yes, they do. I've proven it with the examples above. But then again, since you didn't quite understand my point (due to the reasons I've mentioned in the previous quote), further discussion on this matter would be pointless.


There are lots of people who are happy with it. Quite a nasty sight, if you ask me.


Nope, you can't. Once again, explained by me in previous posts.


It's funny how you're trying to reverse what I've implied to be traits of your behaviour into being those of mine, a few times by now already :hint: Nice to see confirmation of my conclusions.

You've proven nothing. You do not say how a person is wrong and back up your assertions, you simply say them and back them up with "Nope, I'm right, you're wrong "
 

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1. Ice cream sandwiches
2. actually trying to do well at school, or just doing well at school. idiots at mine make fun of me for being smart or just trying in general. its bothersome (and don't call me stupid based off of my grammar i just can't be bothered right now)
3. Toll house sandwiches.
 

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Fear - people don't understand how powerful it is

Loneliness - you have to truly feel it to understand it

Time - You will never have enough of it and always waist it

Family - You never understand what you had until it isn't there anymore
 

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You've proven nothing. You do not say how a person is wrong and back up your assertions, you simply say them and back them up with "Nope, I'm right, you're wrong "

Yes, I did. I've proven that you don't know definitions of the terms you're operating with, that sole fact is enough to not take anything you've written here serious.

Furthermore, you're the one who had started to agressively trying to prove my opinion on the matter wrong, which is methodologicaly wrong, as no opinion can ever be right or wrong.

But the thing is that my posts in this thread contain commonly known facts and my opinion on these facts.

It doesn't need any approvement or disapprovement - it's just my view on the terms, definition of which I know and understand (unlike you, as we've already settled above :) ).

Your posts on the matter, on the countrary, are based on your obvious denial of the information you've recieved from me and your desire to balance out your shaken picture of the world. They don't content any arguments what so ever, hence are safe to be labled useless jabbering.

I've used examples and scientific knowledge, while you, up to now, only replied in the same agressive manner: "no, you're wrong and in denial of my opinion, it's not like you say it, I think it's like *insert your opinion* because it seems to be so to me" - this is the best indication of typical defensive behaviour when you don't have anything constructive to reply on the matter, yet desperately trying to defend your own inner balance.

In future, before trying to discuss on something that seems complicated or/and important to you, please, learn definitions of the terms you're going to use, the methodology of discussion and argument, and, of course, master the control over your emotions :) This will really help you alot.
 
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