Your thoughts?

[Wolfus]

What are your thoughts on these subjects? (Short and objective, please, this thread isn't a debate)

1- Anarchism

2- Socialism and Communism

3- Moralism and opressed minorities

4- The system is opressive and evil

5- Criminal's rights(protecting criminals)

6- Hatting on cops(corrupt or not)

7- Insulting religious people

I might add something later. But for now, that will do it. As I said, avoid discussions. All I want is to see you guys opinions

 

[kushinagirl]

shouldn't this be in general discussion? anyways, i wil answer later after more thought, these r a lot of issues!

 

[Jazzy Stardust]

You're silly if you think a debate isn't going start with these topics, smh.

I'll be back to edit once I got on my Mac.

What are your thoughts on these subjects? (Short and objective, please, this thread isn't a debate)

1- Anarchism: A silly ideal held by people who feel that they lack control in life.

2- Socialism and Communism: I think both have their faults, pros and cons. But since My country is a socialist one, that's what I'm more accustomed too. I've been to Hong Kong when I graduated high school and I felt like religion played too much of a part in their government, trying to force people to be humble. It's obvious to me and some people I've talked too.

3- Moralism and opressed minorities: Morals are all based on how one perceives the world, and that can be affected by upbringing and environment, there isn't much to say on it other than; "different strokes for different folks". I also think in this day and age minorities who are oppressed are actually doing it to themselves. Sure racism is alive and I've experienced, but if you let anything stupid stop you from living life the way you want then you aren't a man. It's been proven that even an African American can become president in a country built on racism.

4- The system is opressive and evil: I honestly don't think so in my country. Just not everyone is able to grasp the concept of what it takes to keep a nation powerful so they always think the government is plotting something evil when really doing their job is more than enough to keep them busy. Now of course some societies like South Korea that are very oppressive, or all the stuff that's happening near the "holy land" and people being forced to convert to religion or die. Now that's all terrible. But of course with something that's meant to help people like religion will create just as much destruction and chaos. It's the balance of the universe.

5- Criminal's rights(protecting criminals): I do believe criminals are still humans, some are just stupid, some make mistakes, and some are crazy. But some do need to die, just makes the world a better place.

6- Hatting on cops(corrupt or not): You spelled hating wrong...I personally do not like the cops but I'm still aware that the hate isn't making their jobs any easier. With the police thinking everyone is against them bad things start to happen, which it is, has, and will. But also believe they if they just did their jobs like they're suppose to they'd have more respect than fear and hate.

7- Insulting religious people: I'm not religious but spiritual and I find it a little silly. I find it just as silly that religious people get offended and so defensive at it. Aren't you taught to stay strong and not let anyone shake your faith? Pathetic. Some people just like arguing.

 

[Callypigia]

My response to all of those is the same: Most people will do what they can get away with.

 

[Naruto99Uzumaki]

this is obviously a debate thread

 

[Lana Del Taka]

I don't care about any of those. I can't believe people get upset by these kinds of things.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Not much of an Religious man.

 

[Tingun]

1- Anarchism

Not much of a topic to discuss, I don't see anarchism as a complete sociopolitical system in itself, instead I see it as a stage that comes when a government have been severely weakened or dissolved. In an anarchist state it seems new political parties almost always end up endangering the well being of those who are uninvolved in political institutions. Usually unstable I would hope that any anarchist system would be resolved and not prolonged, situations involving such systems seem to escalate so swiftly.

Anarchism as an action, anarchy for example, I view as a necessary system for political, sociological or economical change. Even during the creation of America as a sovereign state the place of anarchy was seriously discussed in the case that an oppressive governmental system ever was able to uproot the core values and ideals that were originally instilled in the countries founding documents. The problem with anarchy in my opinion simply lies in the fact that it is an unstable and unreliable system especially when it is prolonged, anarcho-communist states being come of the worst in my opinion. Those who use it in a pacifistic manner have the best interest of all in mind, however their lack of military power often causes their movement to fail.



2- Socialism and Communism

Socialism and communism are systems that in theory work cohesively with society to create economical equality for the lower and middle classes, however the presence of social deviance in any social system makes them impossible to successfully accomplish in the manner that was outlined by Karl Marx. Marxism remains the one socioeconomic system that I feel comes close to ending poverty, however it's disregard for personal interest destroys any hope of it working hand in hand with the human nature.

3- Moralism and opressed minorities
Moralism is good in principle, however it does not effectively solve problems and has little place in political and economical aspects. It does however serve an important purpose in micro-sociological interactions.

4- The system is opressive and evil

I believe almost any modern sociopolitical system promotes corruption and misbalance. As a result of this after a certain period of time they all eventually cause an unfavorable situation for the majority.

6- Hatting on cops(corrupt or not)

I believe that the antagonism of authority is caused by the new (and old) associations with armed law enforcement. Police presence in communities with high crime and one of the worst criminal justice systems in the world make American police officers an common target of anger. Police corruption and civil incidents involving the police simply make the public perception of police deteriorate further. I feel with much certainty that these feelings towards authority will be one of the most difficult things to reverse.

7- Insulting religious people

I believe that respect is an important part of preventing unrest in society. In theory, insults of any kind should be kept to a minimum to prevent conflict, and so, it is the best policy to not insult religious systems or the people who are involved in them. One important reason why it should be avoided as most people who utilize these systems perceive them with the utmost seriousness. Reactions to the disregard of courtesy could easily result in serious conflict, many times of a radical nature.

 

[~Sky~]

1- Anarchism

Some consider it the natural state of the world. That may be true, but we have intelligence for a reason. I see anarchists as people upset over the law not going their way. Stems from a sense of entitlement IMO.

2- Socialism and Communism

Would both be good systems if human beings were perfect, but they are not.

3- Moralism and opressed minorities

I live in the U.S. From what I see, 90% of "Minority oppression," is just people looking to find excuses for themselves without having to take personal accountability. 10% is warranted.

Moralists live in fantasy lands.

4- The system is opressive and evil

Another instance of someone looking for something to blame.

The system is what the system is. Often times I only see people look at the examples of where it goes wrong rather than the ones where it goes right.

If you don't like it, do something to change it. I say this because most people I've met who have this view also tend to be going nowhere in life.

5- Criminal's rights(protecting criminals)

I have no sympathy for extreme criminals. I think the system for this is alright as it is though, there are just butters out there who think that "society made the criminal."

Maybe, but that doesn't mean jack in the face of the law.

6- Hatting on cops(corrupt or not)

Short-sighted and arrogant. Objective criticism is warranted, but I'm a firm believe in judging the police as a whole is misguided. For those who like to insult the police, I'd like to see them spend a day in their shoes patrolling the streets, and see how easy it is.

7- Insulting religious people

Typically people who do this believe they're superior to religious people, because they think religion is foolish.

It's not right.

 

[~Sky~]

As for the police, I believe them being so militarized by the Federal Government is where the problem stems from. Program 1033 allows the police to request military grade equipment from the Government, without needing to notify the people in the county or even the politicians.

I believe this system makes the police less accountable to the people they are supposed to serve, and more reliant on the big Government.

However, some counties really need program 1033. Like really need it. So doing away with it completely is a no go because some areas are just really bad. Their needs to be more stringent regulation on military equipment being distributed nationwide to the police force, and I believe funding should come from the states and the counties, not the Feds.

While I agree citizens can get way out of line, the militarized police force we're seeing in places like Ferguson does not send a good message. It escalates the conflict. It makes the people who are supposed to protect and serve look like people who are trying to stop and detain.

 

[Anorien16]

1- Anarchism

You mean the modern one's and the punks? They are just hiding their shit behind ideals. They are not even worthy to carry the legacy of Anarchism.

But if u mean the actual Anarchism .... then my opinion is same as Communism. Its a hard thing to pull off, nearly impossible.

2- Socialism and Communism

If the people are willing and can make do, I have no problems but they will eventually have.

3- Moralism and opressed minorities

Well there are need of moralist and protection of minorities ..... but the current trends doesnt do shit.

4- The system is opressive and evil

Even the people are dumb and evil ..... why else would the fruit fall far from the tree?

5- Criminal's rights(protecting criminals)

Depends on the crime but shld be very limited .... a starving 10 year old wont be treated as Gang lord.

6- Hatting on cops(corrupt or not)

I prefer to judge person by person.

7- Insulting religious people

Those who can not grant freedom to others does not deserve it himself.

 

[Forest]

Some consider it the natural state of the world. That may be true, but we have intelligence for a reason. I see anarchists as people upset over the law not going their way. Stems from a sense of entitlement IMO.

all of these systems stem from that sense of entitlement.