Your thoughts on Tobirama

"Your thoughts on Tobirama"

  • I lost a great deal of respect for Tobirama

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  • I still have a great deal of respect for Tobirama

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Bogard

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I actually like Tobirama's character and even more so after reading this chapter. The one i start to dislike is Hashirama who is too naive. Tobirama is right and we've seen how Uchihas turned in the end. They are not trustworthy at all but mentally retarded. Don't be butthurt because he says the truth concerning your beloved clan
 

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You obviously don't know the meaning of leader and I still have great respect for Tobirama because HE DID NOTHING WRONG! He is obviously smarter than Hashi cause he knows what's best for the vilage and predicting what would happen and wanted Hashirama to kill Madara which would have prevented the moon eye plan in the first place.

please someone tell me what Tobirama did wrong? and why do the people that call him evil, ect. have an uchiha as there avatar? lol

How do I fell about Tobirama?.....I think he is a BOSS!

Yeah a naive response coming from a Tobirama worshiper. Whether Tobirama is more intellectual than Hashirama doesn't matter, because Hashirama outranks him in status, despite your infatuation for your Tobitos. I was glad when Orochimaru called him out for his bullshit and i agree with the latter, because Tobimara was breaking a truce. The truth is that he wanted the Senju to have all the power without splitting it with the Uchiha. The Uchiha's were stupid for not trusting in Madara, because look at what happened later! First, the Uchiha's made a truce and everything was ok for awhile. Second, the police force happened and the Uchiha were ostracized from the rest of the populace, because even if the role of the police force was for the Uchiha's to save the village-- it was also to keep them in check that led to a change of emotions that made them evil. Third, the Uchiha were all persecuted by Itachi and co. because of Danzo. Tobimara planted the seeds whether you agree with me or not that's the truth of the matter.
 

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I actually like Tobirama's character and even more so after reading this chapter. The one i start to dislike is Hashirama who is too naive. Tobirama is right and we've seen how Uchihas turned in the end. They are not trustworthy at all but mentally retarded. Don't be butthurt because he says the truth concerning your beloved clan

Spare me your post, Bogard. Whenever you write something it's always a lack of common sense. Do you think i don't see the foolish threads you make in NB? Talking about the guy who said, "Minato can beat Susanoo." I don't take you seriously at all. Tobirama is the one that made the Uchiha turn evil, not the other way around you fool. The first step was provoking Madara to embrace hatred and the last step was ostracizing the whole Uchiha clan in the outskirts of the village to grow sympathy for not trusting in Madara, so later on the best thing that came to their minds was a coup against the village. You see your precious Tobirama is also responsible for the creation of the Edo Tensei, which was the jutsu that re-animated all those ninjas the Alliance had to beat. Your sounding like a fanboy, Bogard. Unlike you, fanboy doesn't define me at all. I like the Uchiha's since i was a small child, so quit the bs talking about me being butthurt it's just me expressing my thoughts like the title of the thread.

No, because of Madara and his false preconceptions they have a bunch of problems.

No, Tobirama is at fault. The fact that he acts all innocent about it means that he's being untrue to himself. He was testing the Uchiha's like lab rats on purpose and he was using that for an excuse. When in fact, he just has a personal vendetta against the Uchiha Clan. Madara was actually being cordial, because had Madara been in Sasuke's position. He would have gone apeshit on Tobirama for giving Izuna a fatal attack.
 

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He is a great Kage.... put into plan the organizational system.. But he was too far concerned with the physical village. He was a bit self-centered as far, treating others right. While his brother was thinking about everyone.
 

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Yeah a naive response coming from a Tobirama worshiper. Whether Tobirama is more intellectual than Hashirama doesn't matter, because Hashirama outranks him in status, despite your infatuation for your Tobitos. I was glad when Orochimaru called him out for his bullshit and i agree with the latter, because Tobimara was breaking a truce. The truth is that he wanted the Senju to have all the power without splitting it with the Uchiha. The Uchiha's were stupid for not trusting in Madara, because look at what happened later! First, the Uchiha's made a truce and everything was ok for awhile. Second, the police force happened and the Uchiha were ostracized from the rest of the populace, because even if the role of the police force was for the Uchiha's to save the village-- it was also to keep them in check that led to a change of emotions that made them evil. Third, the Uchiha were all persecuted by Itachi and co. because of Danzo. Tobimara planted the seeds whether you agree with me or not that's the truth of the matter.

Hashirama was stronger that's not the point, Tobirama was more intelligent and that all that matters here. If he would've killed Madara there would be no problems today and how do you know he planted the seed in Danzo? Hiruzen was his student too and Tobirama wouldn't have killed the Uchiha clan like Danzo. You're just an Uchiha worshipper looking to blame someone for something they didn't even do.

Lol you sy Tobirama is the one that made Uchihas turn evil xD in Tobirama's time only Madara was evil even his fellow Uchihas turned their back on Madara whcih p*ssed Madara off maybe that's why he turned evil or maybe it was him getting owned by Hashi all the time or maybe it was all of the above but nope you say it's Tobirama...*facepalm* if Madara had a problem with Tobirama I think he would've fought him but nope he wants to fight Hashi....Was poor little Madara scared of Tobirama?
 
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He is a great Kage.... put into plan the organizational system.. But he was too far concerned with the physical village. He was a bit self-centered as far, treating others right. While his brother was thinking about everyone.

LordRevan, people need to take tips on how to post in a thread. Nice and simple thanks for the opinion.

Hashirama was stronger that's not the point, Tobirama was more intelligent and that all that matters here. If he would've killed Madara there would be no problems today and how do you know he planted the seed in Danzo? Hiruzen was his student too and Tobirama wouldn't have killed the Uchiha clan like Danzo. You're just an Uchiha worshipper looking to blame someone for something they didn't even do.

Status doesn't mean only strength it has additional qualities. Yeah, how does intelligent matters here? He's intelligence was brutality at most! Madara didn't turn evil on his own. Did you read the last chapter when Tobirama was against the idea of Madara being Hokage? Madara heard the entire conversation. He planted the seeds did i not told you this already? Danzo has a similar personality to Tobirama. You never know if they ever had conversations in the past. Don't use my words because your the worshipper here not me. You see get your own words because your lacking in this thread.
 
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Spare me your post, Bogard. Whenever you write something it's always a lack of common sense. Do you think i don't see the foolish threads you make in NB? Talking about the guy who said, "Minato can beat Susanoo." I don't take you seriously at all. Tobirama is the one that made the Uchiha turn evil, not the other way around you fool. The first step was provoking Madara to embrace hatred and the last step was ostracizing the whole Uchiha clan in the outskirts of the village to grow sympathy for not trusting in Madara, so later on the best thing that came to their minds was a coup against the village. You see your precious Tobirama is also responsible for the creation of the Edo Tensei, which was the jutsu that re-animated all those ninjas the Alliance had to beat. Your sounding like a fanboy, Bogard. Unlike you, fanboy doesn't define me at all. I like the Uchiha's since i was a small child, so quit the bs talking about me being butthurt it's just me expressing my thoughts like the title of the thread.
This entire post only confirms what i was saying. A butthurt Uchiha fanboy. Btw, show me the thread "Minato can beat Susanoo". Don't worry i can wait
 

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This entire post only confirms what i was saying. A butthurt Uchiha fanboy. Btw, show me the thread "Minato can beat Susanoo". Don't worry i can wait

Well you can wait forever, because i'm not going to search for that thread or post or whatever you wrote. Your a nincompoop that doesn't want to be proven wrong. Come up with a better arguement, Bogard. You are clearly becoming less reasonable as the days go on.
 

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LordRevan, people need to take tips on how to post in a thread. Nice and simple thanks for the opinion.



Status doesn't mean only strength it has additional qualities. Yeah, how does intelligent matters here? He's intelligence was brutality at most! Madara didn't turn evil on his own. Did you read the last chapter when Tobirama was against the idea of Madara being Hokage? Madara heard the entire conversation. He planted the seeds did i not told you this already? Danzo has a similar personality to Tobirama. You never know if they ever had conversations in the past. Don't use my words because your the worshipper here not me. You see get your own words because your lacking in this thread.
Intelligence matters here because if Hashirama had it he would've killed Madara. WOOOOOWW Tobirama is so Bad and evil because wanted his brother to become Hokage over Madara last time I check Uchihas wanted Hashi too, I didn't know that's evil. GTFO with that BS. I didn't want Romney as president I guess I'm evil Lol. You just said we don't know what they talked about yet you assume he talked badly about Uchihas to Danzo that's being a hipocrit isn't it? I'm a Tobirma worshipper because I don't think he did nothing wrong(which he didn't unless you count not voting for someone and voting for your own brother)

I swear it's like everyone with a Sasuke avatar have the most coocoo opinions
 
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Well you can wait forever, because i'm not going to search for that thread or post or whatever you wrote. Your a nincompoop that doesn't want to be proven wrong. Come up with a better arguement, Bogard. You are clearly becoming less reasonable as the days go on.
No, you can't find the thread simply because it's not existing at all and doesn't even sound like me. I didn't even tried to check but i know it's not a statement that i could make. I used other arguments to show why Minato > Uchihas or Susanoo users but certainly not that argument. You can check all the posts i've ever made in narutobase, and you'll see that i never said something like that. It just proves how delusional you are when you accuse people for things they never did or said without backing things up only because of your fanboyism towards Uchihas. It's also because of that you hate Tobirama. He says a truth you don't want to accept because you think it makes your beloved clan look bad. You are simply in denial, that's all
 

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Tobirama's logic: The Ends Justifies the means. He's obviously one of many machiavellian characters in Naruto.


P.S. Bogard's a Uchiha hater for invalid reasons.
 

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No, you can't find the thread simply because it's not existing at all and doesn't even sound like me. I didn't even tried to check but i know it's not a statement that i could make. I used other arguments to show why Minato > Uchihas or Susanoo users but certainly not that argument. You can check all the posts i've ever made in narutobase, and you'll see that i never said something like that. It just proves how delusional you are when you accuse people for things they never did or said without backing things up only because of your fanboyism towards Uchihas. It's also because of that you hate Tobirama. He says a truth you don't want to accept because you think it makes your beloved clan look bad. You are simply in denial, that's all

Bogard have you ever read your posts? At least when i finish completing my own posts whether it's in one of my threads or another person's thread at least i check before i write something completely illogical. I have seen your Minato threads and you sounded completely stupid in retorting others. Maybe you didn't say "Minato can beat Susanoo." Still it doesn't neglect the fact that you reacted to it just now! What's up with getting all jumpy if you didn't write it? Look who's butthurt now.

Intelligence matters here because if Hashirama had it he would've killed Madara. WOOOOOWW Tobirama is so Bad and evil because wanted his brother to become Hokage over Madara last time I check Uchihas wanted Hashi too, I didn't know that's evil. GTFO with that BS. I didn't want Romney as president I guess I'm evil Lol. You just said we don't know what they talked about yet you assume he talked badly about Uchihas to Danzo that's being a hipocrit isn't it? I'm a Tobirma worshipper because I don't think he did nothing wrong(which he didn't unless you count not voting for someone and voting for your own brother)

I swear it's like everyone with a Sasuke avatar have the most coocoo opinions

Yeah, well i don't have cuckoo opinions letter how to spell the word. Second, i understand the villagers wanted Hashirama as Hokage are you being stupid here? I know that part, because i read the manga, unlike you. Why are you mentioning about killing Madara? Hashirama understood Madara better than anyone. He knew Madara was suffering from the fact that he couldn't protect any of his fellow brothers that includes Izuna. What that means is that Hashirama knows that deep down Madara wasn't evil. He was following a confusing path that continued the feud between the Uchiha's and Senju's. Just like Hashirama and Tobirama who also kept following this path. The fathers of Madara, Izuna, Hashirama, and Tobirama were influential for them to not see any agreements immediately were both could work out their differences it was all a war about power nothing else. Well i didn't say 100% that Tobirama influenced Danzo in hating the Uchiha's. I was just implying that because he planted the seeds it has still been an ongoing issue that hasn't been finished. Yeah, Tobirama didn't do nothing wrong not in the slightest bit... Your delusional, man. Also my thread so you GTFO.
 
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Tobirama's logic: The Ends Justifies the means. He's obviously one of many machiavellian characters in Naruto.


P.S. Bogard's a Uchiha hater for invalid reasons.

Wow, that sounds just like Madara. 40,000 dead, all for Infinite Tsukuyomi? End justifies the means I guess.
 

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Wow, that sounds just like Madara. 40,000 dead, all for Infinite Tsukuyomi? End justifies the means I guess.

Exactly, I did say one of many. I don't get why everyone is so pissed at Tobirama. He did what he believed was necessary.
 

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Bogard have you ever read your posts? At least when i finish completing my own posts whether it's in one of my threads or another person's thread at least i check before i write something completely illogical. I have seen your Minato threads and you sounded completely stupid in retorting others. Maybe you didn't say "Minato can beat Susanoo." Still it doesn't neglect the fact that you reacted to it just now! What's up with getting all jumpy if you didn't write it? Look who's butthurt now.
*sigh* Completely irrelevant statements. Now it's a maybe? How pathetic you are not even able to recognise your errors. Well at least i tried to bring you back to reason, but it seems that like Uchihas, it's useless to argue with their fanboys. Keep hating on Tobirama. It may be worth it in the next few decades. Peace
 

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*sigh* Completely irrelevant statements. Now it's a maybe? How pathetic you are not even able to recognise your errors. Well at least i tried to bring you back to reason, but it seems that like Uchihas, it's useless to argue with their fanboys. Keep hating on Tobirama. It may be worth it in the next few decades. Peace

Yeah the only one that's a fanboy around these parts is you. Why would you bring me back to reason, if you're not even being intellectual in your threads? Just because i have a Sasuke avatar that i find that looks badass doesn't mean i'm a fanboy, so get your thinking priorities straight.
 

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*sigh* Completely irrelevant statements. Now it's a maybe? How pathetic you are not even able to recognise your errors. Well at least i tried to bring you back to reason, but it seems that like Uchihas, it's useless to argue with their fanboys. Keep hating on Tobirama. It may be worth it in the next few decades. Peace

Lol you're a hypocrite. You're getting mad at him being a fanboy when you're all up Tobi's ass just because you both happen to hate Uchihas. That's damn sad.
 

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Bogard have you ever read your posts? At least when i finish completing my own posts whether it's in one of my threads or another person's thread at least i check before i write something completely illogical. I have seen your Minato threads and you sounded completely stupid in retorting others. Maybe you didn't say "Minato can beat Susanoo." Still it doesn't neglect the fact that you reacted to it just now! What's up with getting all jumpy if you didn't write it? Look who's butthurt now.



Yeah, well i don't have cuckoo opinions letter how to spell the word. Second, i understand the villagers wanted Hashirama as Hokage are you being stupid here? I know that part, because i read the manga, unlike you. Why are you mentioning about killing Madara? Hashirama understood Madara better than anyone. He knew Madara was suffering from the fact that he couldn't protect any of his fellow brothers that includes Izuna. What that means is that Hashirama knows that deep down Madara wasn't evil. He was following a confusing path that continued the feud between the Uchiha's and Senju's. Just like Hashirama and Tobirama who also kept following this path. The fathers of Madara, Izuna, Hashirama, and Tobirama were influential for them to not see any agreements immediately were both could work out their differences it was all a war about power nothing else. Well i didn't say 100% that Tobirama influenced Danzo in hating the Uchiha's. I was just implying that because he planted the seeds it has still been an ongoing issue that hasn't been finished. Yeah, Tobirama didn't do nothing wrong not in the slightest bit... Your delusional, man. Also my thread so you GTFO.
I don't think you read this

Lol you say Tobirama is the one that made Uchihas turn evil xD in Tobirama's time only Madara was evil even his fellow Uchihas turned their back on Madara whcih p*ssed Madara off maybe that's why he turned evil or maybe it was him getting owned by Hashi all the time or maybe it was all of the above but nope you say it's Tobirama...*facepalm* if Madara had a problem with Tobirama I think he would've fought him but nope he wants to fight Hashi....Was poor little Madara scared of Tobirama?

all and all Uchihas liked Tobirama more then Madara for him to say Tobirama would become Hokage before him and you still couldn't tell me what Tobirama did to make "Uchiha's evil" I'll leave your sh*t thread now
 
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