*YOUR OPINION* Can Yata Block Any Attack?

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No it cannot

Because Hiruzen isn't the strongest Kage
 

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Yes it can, but it doesn't cover the whole Susanoo so stuff like "Tailed beast bombs", can pretty much subdue the rest of it.
 

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Unless I missed something where it said it protects the user on all sides, it's still a shield, go around the shield. It does change it's chakra nature to any attacks made against it, but you can still maneuver around it.
 

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Most attacks?, Maybe.

All?, Hell no.

I think it can.
Wasn't it the Yata mirror that blocked the Kirin?

I Doubt it.

What ever "blocked" kirin didn't fully blocked it, Some of the blast/Damage made it though to itachi, Since he was facedown on the floor and susanoo was gone and his akatsuki cloak vanished (or got vaporized).
 

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Yes it can, the databook states yata to be a shield with no real physical form & it has the power to change any one of its properties in accordance to the attack in question.

The reason why this is true is because is has not been contradicted, ever. Anyone who believes that it cannot defend against an attack is literally arguing with what kishi himself wrote.

Yes, I realize that the databook has hyperbole's, but the difference here is that they have been contradicted in some way or another while as I said previously, yata hasnt.

Fact of the matter is that anybody who believes that yata can break is merely assuming & has no proof which states, suggests, or even implies otherwise. If kishi wanted to demonstrate to us that yata can break then why didnt he show edo itachi's yata mirror break?

Even the fact that yata isnt a jutsu but rather a spiritual, magical weapon helps cement the fact that it's different from how normal weapons/jutsus/tools work. It is a legendary item, just because it seems illogical for yata to defend against all attacks doesnt mean it's not true.

Unless I missed something where it said it protects the user on all sides, it's still a shield, go around the shield. It does change it's chakra nature to any attacks made against it, but you can still maneuver around it.

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Without a physical form & able to change its properties in order to defend against the attack. Size & shape are both properties so going by the databook yata can protect from all sides if need be.
 

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Yes it can, the databook states yata to be a shield with no real physical form & it has the power to change any one of its properties in accordance to the attack in question.

The reason why this is true is because is has not been contradicted, ever. Anyone who believes that it cannot defend against an attack is literally arguing with what kishi himself wrote.

Yes, I realize that the databook has hyperbole's, but the difference here is that they have been contradicted in some way or another while as I said previously, yata hasnt.

Fact of the matter is that anybody who believes that yata can break is merely assuming & has no proof which states, suggests, or even implies otherwise. If kishi wanted to demonstrate to us that yata can break then why didnt he show edo itachi's yata mirror break?

Even the fact that yata isnt a jutsu but rather a spiritual, magical weapon helps cement the fact that it's different from how normal weapons/jutsus/tools work. It is a legendary item, just because it seems illogical for yata to defend against all attacks doesnt mean it's not true.



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Without a physical form & able to change its properties in order to defend against the attack. Size & shape are both properties so going by the databook yata can protect from all sides if need be.



I read t differently, "Power to change everyone of its properties, allowing it to alter its attributes in accordance with the attributes of the attack" Its definitely talking about the chakra nature manipulation, that's how I see it. Viewing it the other way about being able to cover on all sides would mean the shield could be made into any shape and size, I just don't see it man.
 

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I read t differently, "Power to change everyone of its properties, allowing it to alter its attributes in accordance with the attributes of the attack" Its definitely talking about the chakra nature manipulation, that's how I see it.

Attributes =/= chakra manipulation. An attribute is another word for property. A property can literally be anything.

Viewing it the other way about being able to cover on all sides would mean the shield could be made into any shape and size, I just don't see it man.

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There are scans showing yata increase & decrease in size as well as change its chape. Why dont you see it when its been shown in the manga?
 

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Attributes =/= chakra manipulation. An attribute is another word for property. A property can literally be anything.



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There are scans showing yata increase & decrease in size as well as change its chape. Why dont you see it when its been shown in the manga?

By that logic it could stretch to any size, it has to have a limit.

The pictures you show shows the main portion of it in the center with some branches off to the side, is there any proof that it stretches all the way around?
 

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no, i guarentee if it even mattered anymore which (yes kishi realized it was too overpowered and will leave it out of the plot) no it doest but if it was put back in the story it would have a weakness like physical attacks or somthing
 

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By that logic it could stretch to any size, it has to have a limit.

The pictures you show shows the main portion of it in the center with some branches off to the side, is there any proof that it stretches all the way around?

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Yata mirror already extended, Almost noone paid attention
 

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Those weapons ultimately make up for Itachi's weak stamina.
 

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Guess Hiruzen still the God of Shinobi then :|
 

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Yata mirror already extended, Almost noone paid attention

Thank you, I was going to post those scans myself.
 

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It cannot block Kamui or any spawning Jutsu and it MAY not be able to block Hakugeki or Mugen Onsa, as nothing harmful actually hits the mirror. Could be wrong about that last part though.
 

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Yata Mirror - Said to Block any attack

Totsuka Blade - Said to cut down any enemy

Only one can be true.
 

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If I recall correctly, there are several other "ultimate defenses" that block any attack. Gaara's sand being most prominent among them.

And they obviously can be destroyed/dismantled.


We just haven't gotten the chance to see the Yata Mirror go up against anything formidable, and thus have no actual way of telling it's strength.


For all we know, one Tailed Beast Bomb could do it in.
 

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Thank you, I was going to post those scans myself.

I must admit that's pretty convincing, i'm on the verge of being a Yata Mirror believer, however, there is a ripple in the upper right hand corner of the bottom left panel. and the above picture shows the yata mirror's flames sticking up, this is no proof of 360* defense, we can't see the back of the mirror. I'll give it to you though because it's covering the complete front half of Itachi and his Susanno and the sides, the top and back i'm still not convinced.
 

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PROS

- Manga feats suggest it can, as it's never failed -
- Spiritual Weapon held by The Sage himself -
- Stated in databook by Kishimoto -

CONS

- Has never blocked anything more powerful than bomb tags -
- Databook often exaggerates -

I believe that it maybe weak against Senjutsu attacks.
 
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