You have to kill your best friend! Not your lover! My thoughts since the beginning!

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The God of Wind

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I believe that technically, MS awakens from murdering one's best friend. Like Itachi was probably forced by Shisui to push him off the cliff, and like Naruto and Sasuke are best friends. So in order for Obito to awaken his, he would have had to kill Kakashi, not Rin!

We have already seen alternate ways for MS to awaken, in Sasuke's case it could have been two things:
1. The emotional holocaust in his head from learning the truth! Or..
2. My belief: It was awakened for Sasuke by Itachi, when Itachi planted that Amaterasu in him, just in case he was approached by Tobi.

In Kakashi's case, I am almost positive that it was also thanks to Itachi. When Kakashi got caught in Tsukuyomi and was tortured for 72 hours, it was enough to bring down a bombardment of mental trauma.

Just like Kakashi said when he woke up a week after it happened, "he could have easily killed me in there, so why didnt he?"
Itachi has a way of helping his Village and his Brother any which way he can.

The following theory implies the possibility that Madara has taken over Obito's body.....
As for Tobi/Obito/Madara: I dont think Madara would have any problem getting around the pre-requisite either. Someone with the type of knowledge that he possesses, he could have easily bent the rules to awakening MS, especially since it is not his MS, just like Kakashi did or had it done for him.

Any way these have been my thoughts ever since these things happened, I thought everyone would see it that way to but I was wrong, people on NB have a very wild imagination!
 

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Doesn't specifically have to be one's best friend, Sasuke unlocked his by discovering his brother's true nature.
 

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No shit sherlock
 

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No Acually Itachi Killed his Parents , Best friend and Lover

you can't Know from Which one he Got his MS

Actually friend, if you jog your memory a bit, you will remember Itachi already had it before the massacre. As it was shown following his confrontation with the clan members and his Father.:p
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You should brush up on your Naruto knowledge, see if its accurate before you make claims, or you just end up looking like.....:sy:
 

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Yeah, it doesn't have to necessarily be killing your best friends.

It's actually deep rushes of emotions that awaken it, like hatred.

Like when Sasuke learnt the truth.
 

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Let's say it were true... And let's say if ones best friend = their lover too...
 

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Obito killed no one close to him thus he cannot have MS. If Rin ws killed, i'm sure Kakashi would have mentioned it
 

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Obito killed no one close to him thus he cannot have MS. If Rin ws killed, i'm sure Kakashi would have mentioned it

Well the fact is he does have MS :/ Kakashi says this whence standing in front of the memorial "Obito I couldnt save you and I couldnt save Rin'.
I personally think she killed herself, or she gave up being a ninja and left.
 

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Well the fact is he does have MS :/ Kakashi says this whence standing in front of the memorial "Obito I couldnt save you and I couldnt save Rin'.
I personally think she killed herself, or she gave up being a ninja and left.

and exactly how does rin killing herself (and why would she even do this) equals to Obito getting MS? Stop trying to cover the plot holes because they are toooooooooooo deeep
 
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and exactly how does rin killing herself (and why would she even do this) equals to Obito getting MS? Stop trying to cover the plot holes because they are toooooooooooo deeep

Did you even read my theory on Obito in the OP? That is what I think!
 

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Did you even read my theory on Obito in the OP? That is what I think!

Again no sense here. In Kakashi's case how could he awaken MS if he was the one about to be killed? As YOU said to awaken MS, one has to do the killing and guess what. Kakashi and Itachi are far from fiends not to mention best friends. Itachi only did his actions for his brother and no one else.

Secondly why would Madara want to possess a boy where the left side of his body is TOTALLY DESTROYED, how would he have known that Obito was under a rock, and even worse how could Madara know possession type jutsus that only a scientist like Orichimaru can perform :shrug::flaw: My friend the series isn't making sense because Kishi no longer is making sense
 
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Again no sense here. In Kakashi's case how could he awaken MS if he was the one about to be killed? As YOU said to awaken MS, one has to do the killing and guess what. Kakashi and Itachi are far from fiends not to mention best friends. Itach only did his actions for his brother and no one else. Secondly why would Madara want to possess a boy where the left side of his body is TOTALLY DESTROYED, how would he have known that Obito was under a rock, and even worse how could Madara know possession type jutsus that only a scientist like Orichimaru can perform :shrug::flaw: My friend the series isn't making sense because Kishi no longer is making sense

xdLOL! wow, do you realize how dumb and stupid you just made yourself sound?

Would you read the whole thread? How did Sasuke get MS? Mental Trauma!! What do you think one experiences inside Tsukuyomi?! Especially if they spend three whole days in there!

"No one else" huh? well apparently, Itachi just saved his village from all the Edo's except Madara!

Totally destroyed yes, but hey Einstein, what the hell do you think Zetsu is there for? Senju DNA, immortality, countless fukking replaceable limbs! Is this ringing any bells in there?

Possession type jutsu similar to Oro? I dont know about that but he did have the Rinnegan!!!! You think that might come in handy or no?

And this question shows your IQ, and how much you actually know and understand about Naruto.

How would Madara know how to find him?

LOLxd I am going to answer that with a series of rhetorical questions for you...

How did Madara find the Daimyo's?
How did Madara learn the Jinchuuriki's escaped?
How did Madara rescue Sasuke from the Atomic Detachement jutsu?
How did Madara find Danzo?
How did Madara find Naruto in the Land of Iron?
How did Madara know Team Konoha was heading for Sasuke and know exactly where to find them?
A: Zetsu

You see friend your own brain is creating these plot holes that dont even exist....:D
 

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Azztard Sasuke was never place in Tsukuyomi. Wanna know why? Because just before Itachi cast Tsukuyomi on Kakashi he said "only those with the sharingan and the kekegan kai (meaning to have been born with it) can break the Tsukuyomi" and doesn't Sasuke had both?. I'm sure that just as Itachi launched the Tsukuyomi it started to break meaning it was ineffective on sasuke thus he never tried it again. Have you ever thought his MS came about when he thought it was because of him fighting his brother that he died?

Secondly i know you were gonna bring up that Zetsu shyt and his techniques but now i ask how did Zetsu know of Obito? Zetsu wasn't even in the war. What he just coincidentally stumbled upon him and decided to heal him just for Madara's sake?! Really now.

Thirdly have you ever seen Madara with the rinnengan?. It was Tobi/Obito who said he gave Nagato the rinnegan (and even that is stupid as in how can you "give" something you don't have) so your point is pointless

i have forgotten to mention that Itachi saved the village and to extension the world twice but hey that has nothing to do with this major plot hole currently in the series

*you say i don't follow the series? Why do you think i'm on the base having this debate with you?* As i said the plot holes are quit vivid that is why you created this thread of theories right?
 
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All of this is retarded, Kakashi didn't kill Gai as I know, Tobi has MS and Sasuke unlocked MS when he learnt the truth.
 

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Azztard Sasuke was never place in Tsukuyomi. Wanna know why? Because just before Itachi cast Tsukuyomi on Kakashi he said "only those with the sharingan and the kekegan kai (meaning to have been born with it) can break the Tsukuyomi" and doesn't Sasuke had both?. I'm sure that just as itachi launched the Tsukuyomi it started to break meaning it was ineffective on sasuke thus he never tried it again. Have you ever thought his MS came about when he thought it was because of him fighting his brother that he died?

Secondly i know you were gonna bring up that Zetsu shyt and his techniques but now i ask how did Zetsu know of Obito? Zetsu wasn't even in the war. What he just coincidentally stumbled upon him and decided to heal him just for Madara's sake?! Really now.

Thirdly have you ever seen Madara with the rinnengan?. It was Tobi/Obito who said he gave Nagato the rinnegan (and even that is stupid as in how can you "give" something you don't have) so your point is pointless

i have forgotten to mention that Itachi saved the village and to extension the world twice but hey that has nothing to do with this major plot hole currently in the series

*you say i don't follow the series? Why do you think i'm on the base having this debate with you?*

Bro you are too stupid to even argue with. xd fukking lmao at your reasoning, i am done.

Btw if zetsu didnt save obito then what the fukk is he doing in chapter 599?
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Azztard Sasuke was never place in Tsukuyomi. Wanna know why? Because just before Itachi cast Tsukuyomi on Kakashi he said "only those with the sharingan and the kekegan kai (meaning to have been born with it) can break the Tsukuyomi" and doesn't Sasuke had both?. I'm sure that just as itachi launched the Tsukuyomi it started to break meaning it was ineffective on sasuke thus he never tried it again. Have you ever thought his MS came about when he thought it was because of him fighting his brother that he died?
And What the fukk does ^^^ even mean?!! How does this clusterfukk of bad english and bullcrap even relate to my theory about Kakashi awakening MS through the trauma he experienced in Tsukuyomi?
 
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Bro you are too stupid to even argue with. xd fukking lmao at your reasoning, i am done.

Btw if zetsu didnt save obito then what the fukk is he doing in chapter 599?
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And What the fukk does ^^^ even mean?!! How does ^^^^ relate to my theory about Kakashi awakening MS through the trauma he experienced in Tsukuyomi?

you know what i am more of a pacifist and thus i'll leave you and your theory alone. If i am proved wrong not by you but the author then so be it. There is no reason for me to further this debate when i personally find the series to be contradicting. And you're theory will only be just that......... a theory

*And oh the last post was obviously saying that Sasuke didn't get MS through metal trauma but from a mere thought influenced by actions experienced/taken*
 
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