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[KidGamer65]

WITH the power-ups i mentioned??? You mad bro ಠ_ಠ

-Katon isn't doing jack.

-He isn't cloning PS, not like it'd matter though.

-Meteors wouldn't be bigger as Madara pulled them down, he didn't create them with chakra.

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+ Barrier rape him. Simple as that.

 

[TheTailedSage]

-Katon isn't doing jack.

-He isn't cloning PS, not like it'd matter though.

-Meteors wouldn't be bigger as Madara pulled them down, he didn't create them with chakra.

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+ Barrier rape him. Simple as that.

Then where the hell did the meteorites come from?? your saying they just happened to be there??? poppycock!!!! D:

And why cant he clone PS with the Chakra levels he has??

1000 Arms, Rinnengan,EMS, Hashi cells, tripple chakra (eventually pressumed) 7 Biju??? No effing way if Juubito Winning.

serious question now: Can rinnengan absorb TBB

 

[Ahmed1993]

No, Obito takes him with ease, not mid or high diff.

So you think that the guy who got beat by 50 % Kyuubi Susanoo can beat Shinsusenjuu Rinnegan SM Madara ?

Are you for real ?

 

[Ahmed1993]

-Katon isn't doing jack.

-He isn't cloning PS, not like it'd matter though.

-Meteors wouldn't be bigger as Madara pulled them down, he didn't create them with chakra.

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+ Barrier rape him. Simple as that.

If he pulled the Meteor from space , then why aren't they on fire ?
Obviously he created them.

 

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no more meteors for maddy else it will kill him also

 

[KidGamer65]

Then where the hell did the meteorites come from?? your saying they just happened to be there??? poppycock!!!! D:

That's exactly what happened.

And why cant he clone PS with the Chakra levels he has??

What chakra feats let you say he can make multiple Mountain sized Susanoo while living? Especially when Susanoo continuously drains chakra.

None.

1000 Arms, Rinnengan,EMS, Hashi cells, tripple chakra (eventually pressumed) 7 Biju??? No effing way if Juubito Winning.

serious question now: Can rinnengan absorb TBB

Nothing you mentioned is even a reply let alone a counter for my post.

4 Juubidama + Barrier rape him. Simple as that.

Nothing you listed lets him survive that, unless you think Shinsuusenju or a Senjutsu enhanced PS can tank 1 let alone 4 Juubi Dama.

Too much chakra at once to be absorbed, the idea of it absorbing four of

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is ridiculous and is a no limits statement.

So you think that the guy who got beat by 50 % Kyuubi Susanoo can beat Shinsusenjuu Rinnegan SM Madara ?

Are you for real ?

Obito didn't use Bijuu Dama on them and instead relied on the Sword of Nunboku, which failed him. Not to mention God Tree was unusable since he had to prep for IT. Obito at full power has the Juubi under his full control and can use all its abilities.

Not to mention the barrier + Bijuu Dama combo is a sure kill for Madara, they only escaped that via Hiraishin, and God Tree prevented another barrier from being erected.

If you think Madara is surviving a Juubi Dama let alone 4, then I know its time to stop taking you seriously.

If he pulled the Meteor from space , then why aren't they on fire ?
Obviously he created them.

No, he pulled them down, he didn't create a meteor out of nowhere.

 

[TheTailedSage]

That's exactly what happened.



What chakra feats let you say he can make multiple Mountain sized Susanoo while living? Especially when Susanoo continuously drains chakra.

None.



Nothing you mentioned is even a reply let alone a counter for my post.


Nothing you listed lets him survive that, unless you think Shinsuusenju or a Senjutsu enhanced PS can tank 1 let alone 4 Juubi Dama.

Too much chakra at once to be absorbed, the idea of it absorbing four of

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is ridiculous and is a no limits statement.



Obito didn't use Bijuu Dama on them and instead relied on the Sword of Nunboku, which failed him. Not to mention God Tree was unusable since he had to prep for IT. Obito at full power has the Juubi under his full control and can use all its abilities.

Not to mention the barrier + Bijuu Dama combo is a sure kill for Madara, they only escaped that via Hiraishin, and God Tree prevented another barrier from being erected.

If you think Madara is surviving a Juubi Dama let alone 4, then I know its time to stop taking you seriously.



No, he pulled them down, he didn't create a meteor out of nowhere.

so they happened to be there at that persice moment in time at that exact location???? TROLOLOLOL

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Susano'o being an MS tech and EMS reducing the chakra cost of MS techs kicks in plus hashi which basically doubles or triples his chakra. HE had enough chakra to make one before. And he has rinnengan and SM . Hes more than capable of making 2.

You claim he just pulled them from the sky with no proof that they were just there lingering in the sky for him to use

 

[Ahmed1993]

That's exactly what happened.



What chakra feats let you say he can make multiple Mountain sized Susanoo while living? Especially when Susanoo continuously drains chakra.

None.



Nothing you mentioned is even a reply let alone a counter for my post.


Nothing you listed lets him survive that, unless you think Shinsuusenju or a Senjutsu enhanced PS can tank 1 let alone 4 Juubi Dama.

Too much chakra at once to be absorbed, the idea of it absorbing four of

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is ridiculous and is a no limits statement.



Obito didn't use Bijuu Dama on them and instead relied on the Sword of Nunboku, which failed him. Not to mention God Tree was unusable since he had to prep for IT. Obito at full power has the Juubi under his full control and can use all its abilities.

Not to mention the barrier + Bijuu Dama combo is a sure kill for Madara, they only escaped that via Hiraishin, and God Tree prevented another barrier from being erected.

If you think Madara is surviving a Juubi Dama let alone 4, then I know its time to stop taking you seriously.



No, he pulled them down, he didn't create a meteor out of nowhere.

Madara :
Can absorb those Bijuu Dama via Gakido
Can tank them via Shinsusenjuu covered in PS.
And finally he can even Izanagi out of that sh*t.

And he won't lose Rinnegan since Izanagi is an imperfect version of Banbutso Sozo and SO6P didn't lose his Rinnegan because of that.


If he pulled them out of the space ,WHY AREN'T THEY ON FIRE ?
Its obvious he created them.


This post have made it clear to me that you underrate Madara a lot.

PS: Keep in mind we are talking about a hypothetical version of Madara which is SM Rinnegan Madara.

 

[iNotorious]

Madara :
Can absorb those Bijuu Dama via Gakido
Can tank them via Shinsusenjuu covered in PS.
And finally he can even Izanagi out of that sh*t.

And he won't lose Rinnegan since Izanagi is an imperfect version of Banbutso Sozo and SO6P didn't lose his Rinnegan because of that.


If he pulled them out of the space ,WHY AREN'T THEY ON FIRE ?
Its obvious he created them.


This post have made it clear to me that you underrate Madara a lot.

PS: Keep in mind we are talking about a hypothetical version of Madara which is SM Rinnegan Madara.

1-9 Bijuu i agree
Juubi's ? Lol log off.

 

[crono0929]

It's kind of ridiculous why they're not doing this currently to be honest.

For the sake of plot.

And all those people are not needed to defeat him.

If orochimaru can remove the restrain on the kages and lets them have 100% of their strength and maybe fixes minato's arm and brings prime hiruzen....it would be a rape....but all for the sake of plot..

 

[iNotorious]

For the sake of plot.

And all those people are not needed to defeat him.

If orochimaru can remove the restrain on the kages and lets them have 100% of their strength and maybe fixes minato's arm and brings prime hiruzen....it would be a rape....but all for the sake of plot..

At the end of the day naruto -> madara :3

Just let them be like that for now.

 

[KidGamer65]

Madara :
Can absorb those Bijuu Dama via Gakido

No limits statement. I have no evidence to believe that Madara is going to be able to absorb 4 explosions that made rocks look like pebbles on the ground.

Can tank them via Shinsusenjuu covered in PS.

PS was broken by Chojo Kebutsu and Buddha lost its arsenal to 12 Bijuu Dama. You'd have to be delusional to say that they are going to tank 1, but 4 Juubi Dama.

PS isn't even as big as Shinsuusenju so he can't coat it with PS.

And finally he can even Izanagi out of that sh*t.

He'll lose his Sharingan.

And he won't lose Rinnegan since Izanagi is an imperfect version of Banbutso Sozo and SO6P didn't lose his Rinnegan because of that.

Speculation. Izanagi doesn't work like Creation of all Things, so Madara still loses his eye.

If he pulled them out of the space ,WHY AREN'T THEY ON FIRE ?
Its obvious he created them.

What do you think this shit is all over the meteor?

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If it were created it wouldn't have all that stuff brushing past it as it fell down.

This post have made it clear to me that you underrate Madara a lot.

You say Madara is tanking 4 of

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and I'm underrating him? lmao.

PS: Keep in mind we are talking about a hypothetical version of Madara which is SM Rinnegan Madara.

And?

 

[KidGamer65]

so they happened to be there at that persice moment in time at that exact location???? TROLOLOLOL

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Why don't you stop and use your brain? Why in the world would the meteors have that air, fire, what ever the hell it is brushing past it as it fell, if it were created in that spot? You have no evidence it wasn't pulled down anyway.

Susano'o being an MS tech and EMS reducing the chakra cost of MS techs kicks in plus hashi which basically doubles or triples his chakra. HE had enough chakra to make one before. And he has rinnengan and SM . Hes more than capable of making 2.

Speculation. I need proof his chakra is doubled or tripled, you are just spouting out random values with zero evidence. EMS isn't a factor as he used it for a brief clash while alive and on top of controlling the Kyuubi, he was exhausted. Yet you think he'll make 2 and be able to fight? lmao, no. Scans instead of random values.

Not like they survive Juubi Dama anyway.

You claim he just pulled them from the sky with no proof that they were just there lingering in the sky for him to use

It was shown that they were pulled down, hence the downward motion and hence the stuff brushing past it, if it were created, it wouldn't be falling through the atmosphere.

I knew people would start senselessly wanking Madara after this chapter. Mid diffing Obito is nothing but pure wank.

 

[Ahmed1993]

No limits statement. I have no evidence to believe that Madara is going to be able to absorb 4 explosions that made rocks look like pebbles on the ground.


PS was broken by Chojo Kebutsu and Buddha lost its arsenal to 12 Bijuu Dama. You'd have to be delusional to say that they are going to tank 1, but 4 Juubi Dama.

PS isn't even as big as Shinsuusenju so he can't coat it with PS.



He'll lose his Sharingan.



Speculation. Izanagi doesn't work like Creation of all Things, so Madara still loses his eye.




What do you think this shit is all over the meteor?

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If it were created it wouldn't have all that stuff brushing past it as it fell down.


You say Madara is tanking 4 of

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and I'm underrating him? lmao.



And?

What's the relation between the pebbles on the ground and the absorption of Gakido ?

Susanoo is the materialization of the user's chakra , the user can make it bigger but pumping more chakra into.
I agree that EMS Madara's limit is the PS we know , but the current Madara has Senjuu DNA which enhance his chakra reserve.

Also Shinsuusenjuu lost all its to 12 Bijuu Dama WITH PS SWORD IN IT.
And both Shinsuusenjuu have exceptional durability feats ( as you stated ) if you combine both , they can pull it off.

Nope , Izanagi is an imperfect version of Banbutso Sozo , if the SO6P's Rinnegan didn't turn blind because of the perfect version ( aka Banbutso Sozo ) then Madara's Rinnegan won't turn blind because of the imperfect version ( Aka Izanagi ).

Its not speculation , its said ( i forgot the chapter ) that Izanagi is the imperfect version of Banbutso sozo.

Then how Ononki was able to touch it without getting burned alive ?

I stated how , its not my problem if you denies it.

 

[KidGamer65]

What's the relation between the pebbles on the ground and the absorption of Gakido ?

You have no proof that Gakido can absorb something that large at one time, its a no limits statement without evidence. If you couldn't get that from my post then I fear for your reading comprehension.

Susanoo is the materialization of the user's chakra , the user can make it bigger but pumping more chakra into.
I agree that EMS Madara's limit is the PS we know , but the current Madara has Senjuu DNA which enhance his chakra reserve.

No he can't, by that logic he could make a ribcage the size of PS. Feats pal, use them.

Also Shinsuusenjuu lost all its to 12 Bijuu Dama WITH PS SWORD IN IT.
And both Shinsuusenjuu have exceptional durability feats ( as you stated ) if you combine both , they can pull it off.

Swords didn't increase its explosive power, it made it so they couldn't be caught.

Chojo Kebutsu and 12 Bijuu Dama<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Juubi Dama

lmao, what the hell am I reading? If you think Madara can tank 4 of that then you are a delusional fanboy and there is nothing more to say here.

Nope , Izanagi is an imperfect version of Banbutso Sozo , if the SO6P's Rinnegan didn't turn blind because of the perfect version ( aka Banbutso Sozo ) then Madara's Rinnegan won't turn blind because of the imperfect version ( Aka Izanagi ).

Izanagi and Creation of all Things don't work the same.

-Creation of All Things lets you create anything using Yin and Yang.

-Izanagi lets you rewrite any unfavorable results. Please tell me more about how these are the same thing.

Izanagi is based on Creation of All Things, they aren't the same thing, nor do they work the same, nor can Madara use Creation of All Things, so Izanagi will make Madara blind until shown otherwise.

Its not speculation , its said ( i forgot the chapter ) that Izanagi is the imperfect version of Banbutso sozo.

No, what you are doing is twisting manga to benefit Madara, and its sad.

Then how Ononki was able to touch it without getting burned alive ?

I stated how , its not my problem if you denies it.

I didn't say it was fire, so this retort is completely useless here.

 

[TheTailedSage]

Why don't you stop and use your brain? Why in the world would the meteors have that air, fire, what ever the hell it is brushing past it as it fell, if it were created in that spot? You have no evidence it wasn't pulled down anyway.


Speculation. I need proof his chakra is doubled or tripled, you are just spouting out random values with zero evidence. EMS isn't a factor as he used it for a brief clash while alive and on top of controlling the Kyuubi, he was exhausted. Yet you think he'll make 2 and be able to fight? lmao, no. Scans instead of random values.

Not like they survive Juubi Dama anyway.



It was shown that they were pulled down, hence the downward motion and hence the stuff brushing past it, if it were created, it wouldn't be falling through the atmosphere.

I knew people would start senselessly wanking Madara after this chapter. Mid diffing Obito is nothing but pure wank.

Are you hearing how ridiculous you sound right now?? your saying that they coincidently happened to be there AT THAT PRECISE moment in the manga when madara happened to feel like using a meteor. It wasn't no phenomenon Madara made them and should i tell you how this is a fact? because when oonki just about tanked the Meteor Madara sent another one down "lets see if you can handle another one" . How else would he know its there unless he made the damn meteor. That's proof enough. Btw its air on the meteor not fire and we saw the meteor after it appeared from out of the clouds. Im surprised you would say something as ludicrous as this. Like i said the panel doesn't show us Madara actually making the meteor but a couple seconds after ,which is why we saw the air brushing past it

Its a very damn good speculation and all we can do for now is speculate. If Hashirama in SM is struggling on EMS madara that shows that they are equal in chakra to some extend. Madaras chakra should be at least doubled if he gets these power ups. 1+1=2 simple logic. Both Madara and Hashirama was tired which just proves my point that they are almost on par. Hashirama being the victor faintly suggesting that he has more chakra. right now im making plausible speculations because we currently lack the evidence, you have come up with no legit shiz nigga Before Madara cloned Complete sussano'o in the manga, if someone said it were possible you would of thought they were chatting fraff and remember his chakra capacity has grown since he was an edo due to the edo tensei cap.


To do the hand gesture of pulling it down is making the meteor come down faster or signalling the meteor to drop. Im not wanking madara im going off facts.

 

[KidGamer65]

Madara wankers are definitely the worst.

Are you hearing how ridiculous you sound right now?? your saying that they coincidently happened to be there AT THAT PRECISE moment in the manga when madara happened to feel like using a meteor. It wasn't no phenomenon Madara made them and should i tell you how this is a fact? because when oonki just about tanked the Meteor Madara sent another one down "lets see if you can handle another one" . How else would he know its there unless he made the damn meteor. That's proof enough. Btw its air on the meteor not fire and we saw the meteor after it appeared from out of the clouds. Im surprised you would say something as ludicrous as this. Like i said the panel doesn't show us Madara actually making the meteor but a couple seconds after ,which is why we saw the air brushing past it

You know what? Since it doesn't really matter either way, I'll just say that the meteor was created by Madara even though you have no real proof. Not like they are a factor here anyway.

Its a very damn good speculation and all we can do for now is speculate. If Hashirama in SM is struggling on EMS madara that shows that they are equal in chakra to some extend. Madaras chakra should be at least doubled if he gets these power ups. 1+1=2 simple logic. Both Madara and Hashirama was tired which just proves my point that they are almost on par. Hashirama being the victor faintly suggesting that he has more chakra. right now im making plausible speculations because we currently lack the evidence, you have come up with no legit shiz nigga Before Madara cloned Complete sussano'o in the manga, if someone said it were possible you would of thought they were chatting fraff and remember his chakra capacity has grown since he was an edo due to the edo tensei cap.

Naruto and Sasuke fought equally at the VoTE, does that mean they had the same amount of chakra?

Them getting tired at the same time means nothing. Madara was controlling Kurama the whole time and probably using lower levels of Susanoo here and there while Hashirama was casually using Full Kurama sized Mokuton constructs and then he used Shinsuusenju, which dwarfs Mountains and Kurama. Hashirama even had chakra left to use a clone at the end while Madara couldn't use Sharingan. Hashirama spent more chakra than Madara so he ended up just as tired as the one who spent less chakra, meaning they don't have the same amount of reserves.

Its been stated that Hashirama has more chakra than Naruto and Full Kurama combined so its clear who has more chakra.

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Uh so? I don't care. Madara cloning V3 Susanoo doesn't mean he can clone Perfect Susanoo for an extended fight, especially when I see zero feats or evidence suggesting he can do so.

Edo Tensei cap? lmao, not sure if you read the manga, but Edo Tensei gives unlimited chakra, there is no cap.

To do the hand gesture of pulling it down is making the meteor come down faster or signalling the meteor to drop. Im not wanking madara im going off facts.

lol? Madara middiffing Juubito is based on your facts? Wank Wank Wank is all I see here. You don't even have a legit argument here since all you are doing now is basing your whole stance on assumptions..backed by fail logic.

Obito stomps this clown.

 

[TheTailedSage]

Madara wankers are definitely the worst.



You know what? Since it doesn't really matter either way, I'll just say that the meteor was created by Madara even though you have no real proof. Not like they are a factor here anyway.


Naruto and Sasuke fought equally at the VoTE, does that mean they had the same amount of chakra?

Them getting tired at the same time means nothing. Madara was controlling Kurama the whole time and probably using lower levels of Susanoo here and there while Hashirama was casually using Full Kurama sized Mokuton constructs and then he used Shinsuusenju, which dwarfs Mountains and Kurama. Hashirama even had chakra left to use a clone at the end while Madara couldn't use Sharingan. Hashirama spent more chakra than Madara so he ended up just as tired as the one who spent less chakra, meaning they don't have the same amount of reserves.

Its been stated that Hashirama has more chakra than Naruto and Full Kurama combined so its clear who has more chakra.

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Uh so? I don't care. Madara cloning V3 Susanoo doesn't mean he can clone Perfect Susanoo for an extended fight, especially when I see zero feats or evidence suggesting he can do so.

Edo Tensei cap? lmao, not sure if you read the manga, but Edo Tensei gives unlimited chakra, there is no cap.



lol? Madara middiffing Juubito is based on your facts? Wank Wank Wank is all I see here. You don't even have a legit argument here since all you are doing now is basing your whole stance on assumptions..backed by fail logic.

Obito stomps this clown.

Its suggested, i can only go off speculation if i have no scan to actually show you. My point is more logical anyway but like you said it matters not.

Its been said that both will die in batle suggesting they are equal in power or very close in chakra. to be that tenacious in battle you NEED chakra to survive. You just shot yourself in you rfoot because your sayign Hashi had more chakra provin gmy point that Madaras chakra would at least double LEL.

FACT: Like you said Hashirama had more chakra so if Madara now has this then basic mathamatical logic is applied 1+1=2 Madaras chakra point would increase. His cap in edo allowed him to make 1 PS so why cant he clone it?? i see nothing going against this theory. Its because madara had masses of chakra is why he could make them in the first place; and mokuton

FACT: More chakra means more jutsu or more powerful jutsu. In this case its quantity more than quality.

FACT: Everyone thought cloning a V1 susno'o was out of the question untill scans proved otherwise. PS is still a form of susano'o so it can be cloned especially with the power up i suggested he MAY get.

You have only stated a fact that only re-enfored my own.


Mid diffing him WITH the power-up i gave him. Juubito No diffs him at current state. You havent actually showed me anything to go against what i have said. Not even a speculation so whos got the fail logic??

Obito stomps current madara

My version of Power-up Madara extreeme HIGH diff's Obito

 

[KidGamer65]

Its suggested, i can only go off speculation if i have no scan to actually show you. My point is more logical anyway but like you said it matters not.

Its been said that both will die in batle suggesting they are equal in power or very close in chakra. to be that tenacious in battle you NEED chakra to survive. You just shot yourself in you rfoot because your sayign Hashi had more chakra provin gmy point that Madaras chakra would at least double LEL.

Are you going to keep on spouting this shit? Where the hell is this BS factual? Naruto and Sasuke were near equals in power at VoTE even though Sasuke had much much more chakra than him. Don't come here with idiotic logic, cause I honestly expect better.

Hashirama having more chakra than Madara doesn't prove your point.

FACT: Like you said Hashirama had more chakra so if Madara now has this then basic mathamatical logic is applied 1+1=2 Madaras chakra point would increase. His cap in edo allowed him to make 1 PS so why cant he clone it?? i see nothing going against this theory. Its because madara had masses of chakra is why he could make them in the first place; and mokuton

There was no cap for Edo Tensei, Edo Tensei's chakra doesn't run out. This cap is nonexistent and just something you pulled out of your ass in order to better your argument, even though all you are doing is failing.

Hashirama having more chakra than Madara is irrelevant here, cause he didn't gain Hashirama's chakra levels or anything. Next.

FACT: More chakra means more jutsu or more powerful jutsu. In this case its quantity more than quality.

FACT: PS usage and Genjutsu on Kurama for about a whole night of battle cost Madara most of his chakra reserves when he was alive, now he has Hashirama's DNA.

FACT: It doubling doesn't mean he'll create two Perfect Susanoos while alive, and maintain them the whole battle, especially when using a clone halves his chakra, and this doesn't count any other jutsu he might use.

FACT: Everyone thought cloning a V1 susno'o was out of the question untill scans proved otherwise. PS is still a form of susano'o so it can be cloned especially with the power up i suggested he MAY get.

Irrelevant. PS isn't V1, V2 or V3. Are you going to start using false equivalences now? Just gonna add to the list of fail logic you've used huh?

Mid diffing him WITH the power-up i gave him. Juubito No diffs him at current state. You havent actually showed me anything to go against what i have said. Not even a speculation so whos got the fail logic??

None of the power ups you created do shit against Obito.

-Cloning PS doesn't matter when 1 Juubi Dama is more than enough to break all of them since PS was already broken by Chojo Kebutsu, unless you think Madara can tank it like the fanboy above.

-Bigger Meteors don't mean shit either due to Juubi Dama.

-Katon? Don't make me laugh.


LOL?! I clearly posted what happens during this fight and you ignored it to continue rambling on about how Madara created meteors.

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+ Barrier rape him. Simple as that.

I have seen zero response to this. I even brought up how you neglected to counter.

Nothing you mentioned is even a reply let alone a counter for my post.

Nothing you listed lets him survive that, unless you think Shinsuusenju or a Senjutsu enhanced PS can tank 1 let alone 4 Juubi Dama.

Who has the fail logic now? Oh wait, its been you this whole discussion. If you have no counter to this then you have no argument.

Current Madara, Fanfic Madara that you made, doesn't matter. He gets shitted on.

 

[TheTailedSage]

Are you going to keep on spouting this shit? Where the hell is this BS factual? Naruto and Sasuke were near equals in power at VoTE even though Sasuke had much much more chakra than him. Don't come here with idiotic logic, cause I honestly expect better.

Hashirama having more chakra than Madara doesn't prove your point.


There was no cap for Edo Tensei, Edo Tensei's chakra doesn't run out. This cap is nonexistent and just something you pulled out of your ass in order to better your argument, even though all you are doing is failing.

Hashirama having more chakra than Madara is irrelevant here, cause he didn't gain Hashirama's chakra levels or anything. Next.


FACT: It doubling doesn't mean he'll create two Perfect Susanoos while alive, and maintain them the whole battle, especially when using a clone halves his chakra, and this doesn't count any other jutsu he might use.




None of the power ups you created do shit against Obito.

-Cloning PS doesn't matter when 1 Juubi Dama is more than enough to break all of them since PS was already broken by Chojo Kebutsu, unless you think Madara can tank it like the fanboy above.

-Bigger Meteors don't mean shit either due to Juubi Dama.

-Katon? Don't make me laugh.


LOL?! I clearly posted what happens during this fight and you ignored it to continue rambling on about how Madara created meteors.



I have seen zero response to this. I even brought up how you neglected to counter.



Who has the fail logic now? Oh wait, its been you this whole discussion. If you have no counter to this then you have no argument.

Current Madara, Fanfic Madara that you made, doesn't matter. He gets shitted on.

LEEEEEEL what?! I hope your talking about base chakra levels because as far as chakra goes as a topic, naruto plus kurama chakra made naruto rank higher than sasuke in terms of chakra levels including sage energy. OMFG to say his chakra is much higher is laughable. If that were true he would have had naruto out-ranked. Sasukes jutsu are more destructive based which should of course make sasuke more difficult to cope with in a fight.

It brought him back in his prime, in his prime he didnt have rinnengan and thus the cap of edo tensei is made. Everyone knows this. notice when Madara got brought back Zetsu said Madara cna do anything? of course its hyperbole but this right here suggests that Edo tensei had a cap. He could use Sage chakra before because hashi cells dont work on undead. You dont have more chakra but the chakra regenerates faster. If it had unlimited chakra then Tobirama could do as much clones as he wanted. Whats that about he ain't got more chakra?? are you a retard or something, reread the last 2 chapters :| show some actual proof or speculation instead of denying my own.

FACT: PS usage and Genjutsu on Kurama for about a whole night of battle cost Madara most of his chakra reserves when he was alive, now he has Hashirama's DNA.

LMAO you persist on strengthening my speculation, If he's able to do all of this with just EMS then what do you think hes going to do with rinnengan and hashi DNA?? how is this fact of yours in your favour??

Im going to use the fact you gave me to counter your second fact. If Madara can go a whole night on PS and genjutsu controlling Kurama and other Katon jutsu. Keeping In mind susano'o is an MS technique. If someone who has more chakra than you is then absorbed into your own chakra system your chakra reserves are going to increased double or more. I don't see how this is difficult to grasp.

Irrelevant. PS isn't V1, V2 or V3. Are you going to start using false equivalences now? Just gonna add to the list of fail logic you've used huh?

How is it irrelavant? its completely relevant, its like saying you can clone a crappy car, a good car but not a better car, it makes no sense what your saying. Your acting as if its written in stone that you can't clone PS or there is a chakra restriction stopping him from doing so.


.... :| 1-9 Tails Bijudama enhanced with rinnengan and Madaras own chakra/ Hashi chakra?? Are you freaking kidding me?? Not saying it breaks through but it at least rivals with Bijudama. If not the remaining chakra from Jubidama is tanked by PS. Furthermore Bijudama takes made amount of prep time. By that time he gets attacked. Juubidama seems to be the structure of your argument hen this attack takes mad long to do.

The counter: Madaras reaction time>>>>Juubidama prep and i already gave a counter as to how he tanks Juubidama

Dude, no evidence or no legit speculation using manga facts= fodder and baseless argument. Madara wins ex high diff