[VS] Yonko Marshall D. Teach VS. Fleet Admiral Akainu

[JDtheAlchemist]

Ur taking the only example that has a little bit of controversy when it comes to titles of characters and applying it to almost every case and even then we dont know if Arlong can just wreck Krieg considering how much tricky is fighting against Krieg but even if Arlong is stronger it doesnt really mean much since Arlong wasnt originally an East Blue pirate he was a pirate who roamed the GL with the sun pirates and just later on left GL for East Blue so the title itself could refer only to pirates native to EB also the whole Don krieg title is a small thing while Kaidos is in a grande scale of things for one of the most important characters in the manga, a title like that isnt going to be dropped just for the fun of it.

And why are u trying to list feats like they are supposed to put him above others the feats u listed could have been done by probably any other Yonko out there not to mention that the whole "Baltigo in ruins" is completely shrouded in mystery and is just pure speculation of what happened there ur just assuming that BB went there ****ed up the revolutionary army and went home, gotta fit ur agenda right?

Almost every point ur making is just up in the air with no basis whatsoever and ur just assuming ur right. I'll say it again until proven otherwise Kaido was hyped as the strongest living creature by the manga itself and there is no logical reason to believe a random guy in the internet over the manga itself. Manga facts > Ur opinion.

Funny, because I'm also using manga facts but you've immediately dismissed all of them. But hey, gotta fit your agenda, right?

Also, you are very much twisting my words to fit your own argument, but that's okay. I know what's what, so go ahead and do you bro

 

[arv993]

Currently by hype it's kaido but it's only for the moment. The hype BB is getting there from beating Marco and company badly to also point out his obvious df advatages, he's set up as luffy's strongest opponent.

 

[straightup]

Here are the only manga "facts"

-BB captured jewelry Bonney and when he saw that akainu was the one that was going to be receiving her he ran away scared.
-BB finished off whitebeard but only after whitebeard was beaten pretty badly
-BB has atleast 2 devil fruits atm
-BB has not shown any feats post time skip.baltigo doesn't count because we don't know what happened so we can't regard that as fact
-Akainu us fleet admiral
-Oda stated that if akainu wanted to find one piece he'd find it in 2 years


I'm not saying bb will never be stronger than akainu but atm until shown otherwise I'm going with akainu

 

[Forbidden Tale]

I am going with Akainu, he is fleet admiral, afterall.

We do not know how powerful Blackbeard is, so I am ranking him as weakest out of 4 Yonkos.

 

[sravan]

I think BB can beat akainu now.
BB has 2 hax df's
He has haki
he is the rival of the future pirate king
He beat WB pirates(marco & co) that alone shows his power growth.
Akainu is strong but not anymore....

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Teach being a yonkou first and foremost but overall his shady cunning demeanor usually give him the advantage in most situations in battle.

 

[Blunt]

Akainu probably wins at this current point in time but not by a significant margin.

 

[LBeezy]

I'ma go with Teach..

Some posts on this thread really hit the nail on the head..

 

[Unorthodox]

Akainu wins as he's the final villian

Luffy defeats BB to become pirate king

the stringes pirate vs the strongest marine

Fleet vs King lol

 

[MadaraReturns]

Soooo do you think Newgate was called this because of his brute strength or his spear? Maybe the title was just for show?

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Nah, mang! It was because of his Devil Fruit ability which is now in the possession of Teach! Not to mention, Teach's Yami abilities completely nullify other Devil Fruit abilities. Did I make an inference from information that was still collected in manga? Yes. Did I blatantly disregard the Kaido thing? No. While the manga does explicitly state that Kaido is said to be the strongest creature alive, it is not a concrete statement as it was with Newgate. Don't get me wrong, Kaido seems undoubtedly Top 3 material based off hype alone, but Teach has probably the 2 most hax Devil Fruit that exist in the One Piece world; one of them being the claim to fame of the previous "strongest man in the world." So I stand by my statement.

A devil fruit doesnt make u the WSM nor does ur physical strength alone its all of these together that made WB what he was, WB's physical strength, durability, devil fruit as well as his haki were unquestionable.

Also the whole "not concrete" statement is just how people were doubting Jack's 1b bounty just because it wasnt stated in a box but instead was told by a crew mate and what happened? The thing was stated the way u people want just chapters later, its a shonen man cmon.

So until proven otherwise or anything Kaido currently remains the holder of the strongest living creature in the world as stated in the manga, stated in a concrete way or not its still better than fanabse speculation.

Hey guys, to your first 4 replies (i didnt read al the others yet) i wanted to say that you guys bring some rockhard facts, but i also think that theres a possibility that BlackBeard is stronger. Kaido has that name because he did various things back in the years.. He was there at the top earlier than Teach, that could be why people call him the strongest. Though knowing Teach he'd walk away from a clash with Kaido because he has nothing to gain so the losses on his side (or his own physical damage) would be meaningless. I also wouldn't be suprised if that persistant Akainu would be able to take down Kaido somehow, that guy fought 2 Shichibukai and every Whitebeard pirate and kept on fighting on his own!

Back to Teach, he fought Sengoku AND Garp! And we saw that Sengoku didn't leave without scratches after the fight.. (though bandage doesn't say much)

The reason it's so hard to imagine Kaido losing from BB is because he's immortal...

 

[MadaraReturns]

Akainu wins as he's the final villian

Luffy defeats BB to become pirate king

the stringes pirate vs the strongest marine

Fleet vs King lol

Or maybe the other way around, maybe one of them will first get rid of the Navy who stands in their way and then they can freely fight eachother, or maybe Dragon or Sabo will be the one to defeat Akainu

 

[MadaraReturns]

You guys make it hard to choose, also, you guys state the facts but in a wrong way. This should be considered when wanting to make a choice:

Akainu is fast, but BlackBeard also quickly countered Sengoku with a QUICK Gura-punch, Akainu's attacks could just be blocked by Gura and Nuldified with Yami (for the rest of his body)

Akainu has Haki and has a very strong one, his durability (just like BlackBeard's) is over the charts, but the one thing that we know for sure about Akainu and not about BB is that Akainu has (strong) Haki.

Akainu's Fleet Admiral status doesn't make him stronger than BB because BB is a Yonko.. I also have a hard time to choose because BB should be stronger but it's so hard to imagine Akainu losing, but the same can be said about Teach. But now that I think of it I'll go with Teach, he can pull Akainu his way and if (or if not) Akainu tries to do anything he can spam Gura punches, that guy will give (the way stronger version) of Akainu even a harder time than Whitebeard did. Akainu is smart and persistant, but BlackBeard is just too smart and wins if he wants to, no matter what... And he has proven so: Don't come with him being scared because he's just smart and plays it the safest way possible, if he would be afraid of Akainu he wouldn't badtalk the WG and stuff in front of every Admiral and other pirares

 

[chopstickchakra]

Placing my money on akainu not only is his df overpowered his haki is as well as for you saying he wasn't afraid that's false he was

Idk how ppl can say doffy was afraid to fight akoji (he wasn't he needed to find luffy and law) but Blackbeard wasn't afraid when his entire team actually ran away from akainu

Akainu's DF would mean jack shit unless the WG can develop a way to negate the YYnM.

 

[MadaraReturns]

Akainu's DF would mean jack shit unless the WG can develop a way to negate the YYnM.

YYnM?? Not only that but the GGnM also blocks many of the attacks Akainu throws, like i explained 1 post above yours with an example of BB's offence and defence

 

[chopstickchakra]

YYnM?? Not only that but the GGnM also blocks many of the attacks Akainu throws, like i explained 1 post above yours with an example of BB's offence and defence

True but Akainu handled the GGnM very well when it was in the hands of WB who I have to believe was stronger physically then BB(If that actually effects the waves produced idk) and he had to have been better with the GGnM at MF than BB is. That's why I think the YYnM would be more important to his victory over Akainu.

 

[Luther]

Akainu. Mid to High difficulty.

 

[arv993]

Akainu wins as he's the final villian

Luffy defeats BB to become pirate king

the stringes pirate vs the strongest marine

Fleet vs King lol

Sabo might end up fighting akainu, there's no guarantee he's the final villain

 

[TRE MERCER]

Here are the only manga "facts"

-BB captured jewelry Bonney and when he saw that akainu was the one that was going to be receiving her he ran away scared.
-BB finished off whitebeard but only after whitebeard was beaten pretty badly
-BB has atleast 2 devil fruits atm
-BB has not shown any feats post time skip.baltigo doesn't count because we don't know what happened so we can't regard that as fact
-Akainu us fleet admiral
-Oda stated that if akainu wanted to find one piece he'd find it in 2 years


I'm not saying bb will never be stronger than akainu but atm until shown otherwise I'm going with akainu

All Irrelevant since that happen before BB got timeskip power boost. Akainu becoming fleet admiral means shit.

I am going with Akainu, he is fleet admiral, afterall.

We do not know how powerful Blackbeard is, so I am ranking him as weakest out of 4 Yonkos.

Yes rank BB who has the most destructive DF and one of the most hax df the weakest Yonko let's not forget that it was said that they stomped WB pirates. Etc.

Akainu probably wins at this current point in time but not by a significant margin.

Na he doesn't Akainu couldn't even handle and half dead WB. Blackbeard pull Akainu close and ruins his face with a tremor punch. Plus we have to take into consideration he can suck Akainu's magma up.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Na he doesn't Akainu couldn't even handle and half dead WB. Blackbeard pull Akainu close and ruins his face with a tremor punch. Plus we have to take into consideration he can suck Akainu's magma up.

It's funny because Teach replicated Whitebeard's greatest feat with the Gura Gura no Mi at Marineford and still said he wasn't able to take on Akainu.

 

[TRE MERCER]

It's funny because Teach replicated Whitebeard's greatest feat with the Gura Gura no Mi at Marineford and still said he wasn't able to take on Akainu.

Countering Sengoku is WB best feat Na? Teach after timeskip is much stronger due to his new knowledge and and mastery over both his df.

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