Yin Rikudo Sasuke vs EMS Madara

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Sasuke stomps, why do people still try with these Rikudo character vs non-Rikudo character debates, almost as if they've finally found the thread in which a Rikudo character loses. Sasuke legit blitzes to the diamond Madara is residing in and breaks through with his v3 Susano (no need for a v4).
 

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Unless Sasuke's V4 Susanoo puts out more than 12 giant Bijuu Dama and Chojo Kebutsu combined, or puts out something close enough to that level, there is absolutely no way he breaks through Madara's Susanoo. Rikudo Chakra>>>>Kurama's chakra. Only issue here is, will his V3 Susanoo be strong enough to bust Madara's PS? Yin-Yang Kurama cloak brought his V3 to his PS level, would it bring it to EMS Madara's PS level let alone a level where he can actually bust Susanoo open? Who knows?

Though there us always Genjutsu to take control of Kurama.
 
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Unless Sasuke's V4 Susanoo puts out more than 12 giant Bijuu Dama and Chojo Kebutsu combined, or puts out something close enough to that level, there is absolutely no way he breaks through Madara's Susanoo. Rikudo Chakra>>>>Kurama's chakra. Only issue here is, will his V3 Susanoo be strong enough to bust Madara's PS? Yin-Yang Kurama cloak brought his V3 to his PS level, would it bring it to EMS Madara's PS level let alone a level where he can actually bust Susanoo open? Who knows?

Though there us always Genjutsu to take control of Kurama.
Yeah, I will have to restrict genjutsu too. The point of the thread is too see how much power RG Sasuke's lower Susano'o variants can produce, and how much pressure his Rikudo V3-V4 can withstand.
 

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Yeah, I will have to restrict genjutsu too. The point of the thread is too see how much power RG Sasuke's lower Susano'o variants can produce, and how much pressure his Rikudo V3-V4 can withstand.
Alright. So let's try and measure this.

-Sasuke's PS was barely Mountain Level before the boost and only the same size as Naruto's regular Avatar. Post boost it became the same size as EMS Madara's PS and went from barely Mountain Level to being strong enough to cut through giant CT Meteors that are the same size as the Shinju's stump, which is wider than many Mountain Ranges.

1. PS is Mountain Sized.
2. Shinju stump spans across several Mountains.
3. Shinju stump dwarfs Madara's PS which is equal in size to Sasuke's PS.
4. Sasuke cut through rocks that size.

So it's actually possible for Sasuke to win this w/ his V3-V4.
 

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Great post. I only have one question.

How did you measure, and arrived to the conclusion that RG Sasuke's PS is equal in size to EMS Madara's PS?
 

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Great post. I only have one question.

How did you measure, and arrived to the conclusion that RG Sasuke's PS is equal in size to EMS Madara's PS?
Madara's Susanoo is Mountain Sized, and during VoTe, and Sasuke's PS matches it.
 

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Unless Sasuke's V4 Susanoo puts out more than 12 giant Bijuu Dama and Chojo Kebutsu combined, or puts out something close enough to that level, there is absolutely no way he breaks through Madara's Susanoo. Rikudo Chakra>>>>Kurama's chakra. Only issue here is, will his V3 Susanoo be strong enough to bust Madara's PS? Yin-Yang Kurama cloak brought his V3 to his PS level, would it bring it to EMS Madara's PS level let alone a level where he can actually bust Susanoo open? Who knows?

Though there us always Genjutsu to take control of Kurama.
What you fail to understand is that the large majority of the explosion was irrelevant as it didn't make contact with the PS. Also, a barrage is a barrage, some of it contributed to the explosion aka while the barrage was on-going whilst the TBB's were exploding but all the attacks before hand had absolutely no relevance to the explosion that happened thereafter. Sasuke's v4 sword will only be making contact with the diamond in which Madara lies. Of course it's speculation, but I definitely know that Rikudo boost is at least 20-30x that of a Kyuubi cloak and I don't think the difference in Susano power between Sasuke's PS and Madara's PS is 20-30x, let alone the massive boost his v4 Susano would get if it used said 20-30x boost.

Yes, using Genjutsu to control Kurama, or simply blitzing the open area would allow him to control or shit on Kurama.
 

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Sasuke High dif.

Although Sasuke has Rikudou chakra, he's being restricted of his PS and Rinnegan techniques so it would be his V4 that is going to be amplified and now the question is whether it's enough to rival PS Kurama even if Madara isn't powered by Rikudou chakra.

Not a stomp in any way unless Sasuke takes control of Kurama.
 

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I believe his Legged v3 or even v4 should be on the level needed to destroy Madara's Susano'o. Yin-Yang Kurama cloak boosted Sasuke's v3 to his original PS level, Rikudo chakra should push it to an extremely higher level.
 

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Unless Sasuke's V4 Susanoo puts out more than 12 giant Bijuu Dama and Chojo Kebutsu combined, or puts out something close enough to that level, there is absolutely no way he breaks through Madara's Susanoo. Rikudo Chakra>>>>Kurama's chakra. Only issue here is, will his V3 Susanoo be strong enough to bust Madara's PS? Yin-Yang Kurama cloak brought his V3 to his PS level, would it bring it to EMS Madara's PS level let alone a level where he can actually bust Susanoo open? Who knows?

Though there us always Genjutsu to take control of Kurama.
Alright. So let's try and measure this.

-Sasuke's PS was barely Mountain Level before the boost and only the same size as Naruto's regular Avatar. Post boost it became the same size as EMS Madara's PS and went from barely Mountain Level to being strong enough to cut through giant CT Meteors that are the same size as the Shinju's stump, which is wider than many Mountain Ranges.

1. PS is Mountain Sized.
2. Shinju stump spans across several Mountains.
3. Shinju stump dwarfs Madara's PS which is equal in size to Sasuke's PS.
4. Sasuke cut through rocks that size.

So it's actually possible for Sasuke to win this w/ his V3-V4.
Stop being dumb and using that BS comparison then you wonder why everybody say your down scaling is shitty put it like this

EMS Sasuke's V4 susanoo >> Kakashi V4.

Give one half of Hagoromo chakra give the other a pint of waterdown Hagoromo chakra. and nothing changes

That little bit a Chakra gave Kakashi a PS that > EMS Madara by margin Kurama chakra put a v3 susanoo on par with the BSM avatar let alone a v4 susanoo now give the latter a half of Hagos chakra >>>>>>>>> Kurama's his V3 is enough to swat anything in Madara's arsenal with ease.

Rinnegan Sasuke V3 susanoo = > Kakashi's PS

Rinnegan Sasuke v4 susanoo >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kakashi's PS

Rinnegan Sasuke's PS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kakashi's

I believe his Legged v3 or even v4 should be on the level needed to destroy Madara's Susano'o. Yin-Yang Kurama cloak boosted Sasuke's v3 to his original PS level, Rikudo chakra should push it to an extremely higher level.
v3 or v2 is only needed.
 
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