Naruto has continent level dc and durability.Just bcoz he can stop Ichigo doent means he can stop anyone.Thats NLF.Yhwach has likely country level dc so yah Naruto wipes the floor with him.His traps arent doing much.Plus Naruto is much faster than Yhwach.Anyone above Yhwach will defeat him,albeit with troubles bcoz of his future seeing ability.
[Discussion] Yhwach is BROKEN!! Surpassed Naruto, DB Super, Bastard, Saint Seiya
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I'm looking for another anime to follow. I always start with the anime before hopping to the manga. Anyways, since 2008, it's just been Naruto and Bleach. I've tried a few others... Death Note (enjoyed), Durarara (forgot about it and didn't get past the first few episodes), Soul Eater (enjoyed, but just forgot about it).
I recently discovered One Man Punch. It looks awesome... should I invest my time into it?
I recently discovered One Man Punch. It looks awesome... should I invest my time into it?
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Being able to see the future doesn't mean much if he can't do anything to stop it.
If he goes against a god tier in Naruto then all he's gonna see is himself getting destroyed.
If he goes against a god tier in Naruto then all he's gonna see is himself getting destroyed.
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Lol naruto speed mean nothing if bach already knows where he's going just to put it in simple terms Mary to has no chance at winning this fight lol the monk though he had Bach beat aswell but bach made it to where the monk could not even effect him no more that's the same thing he will do to naruto...an trust me he won't allow naruto to blow up any country he's on.
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Lol that's the thing he does not just see the future he changes it to his liking he changes it so he can be the winner no matter what.
Bro do you even know what NLF is?Just bcoz he can react to the monk doesnt mean he can react to Naruto who is much faster than him.A big LOL.This isnt even a competition.Ichigo was weaker than Bach and hence he was able to do some shit.Naruto>>>>>Juha.Juha gets blown away to bits.
And I will actually wait to see how they take down Bach.Bcoz clearly Bach is gonna be taken down in the same way as Aizen was taken down.
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They not ready for Torikoverse bro...they not ready. I have yet to see a manga or anime that can take out the top tears in Torikoverse.Yet he gets solo'ed by ichiryuu's minority world
Dragon King Derous snipes the bleach world from 3 light years away with his FTL extra dimensional lazer before Bach can even activate his almighty
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naruto is much faster than yhwach? lol wut? bleach speed is on a whole new level than Naruto. Comparing Yhwach to naruto characters is just sad since Yhwach can simply solo Naruto verse.
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Put Yhwach aside since he punks the naruto verse and lets go down into bleach tiers a little bit, and by that I mean anyone who is below the elite sternritters, Yamamoto, Gremmy, Shunsui, most of the captains, the soul king captains, and aizen.
If you want a kind of debatable match for naruto god tiers then I suggest you to pick on some characters like the espada (which they still stomp) but atleast you can debate your way out of it.
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I was not talking bout the monk I meant his zanpacto ability an how you know naruto Is faster than the monk?...anyway like I said his speed don't matter Bach will keep up an already know where he's going he will just change the future an win the battle.
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So what like nobody here follows OBD or NF forums and sees calcs done?Naruto is much faster than Ywach based on the calcs and if you guys dont follow it then I guess we cant really argue bcoz without any scale we cant judge who is faster and who is slower in a multiverse battle debate.
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It don't matter if he's faster though lol Bach already knows everything that will happen in the fight an he will change it up so he can win lol.
Bleach speed calcs are horrendous since Kubo doesn't like drawing, take them with a grain of salt. I remember for years people had ichigo calced at his fight with Byakuya despite being in the fullbringer arc.
Equalize speed then make your argument, no need to bank on shotty speed calcs.
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Yes Ywach is incredibly broken in the Bleachverse. And on paper it would seem like he's unbeatable.
But the problem with matching him up against someone like Goku or Saint Seiyas is that even if he can see or direct the future, he would still need the necessary power in order to compete with your list and counter him.
So far as we know, the Soul King is the pinnacle of power, and Ywach has basically obtained it. But the question is, does the power of the Soul King match up to the powers you've listed in order to defeat them?
I mean for all we know, the most devastating attack of the Soul King could just be a scratch to someone like Beerus.
But the problem with matching him up against someone like Goku or Saint Seiyas is that even if he can see or direct the future, he would still need the necessary power in order to compete with your list and counter him.
So far as we know, the Soul King is the pinnacle of power, and Ywach has basically obtained it. But the question is, does the power of the Soul King match up to the powers you've listed in order to defeat them?
I mean for all we know, the most devastating attack of the Soul King could just be a scratch to someone like Beerus.
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We don't really know the mechanics of it completely but he was able to break ichigos sword without even moving. It broke because he willed it so. He is also able to hit ichigo despite having his real sword stopped. Again this is because he willed it so. He can change the future and if all possibles futures exist before him then he can cahnge it to that future.
Against an opponent like beerus he could simply choose the future where beerus is cut in half by his attack for any reason at all. If he wasnt beerus to be cut in half, he can change the future so that is what happens. The only thing gonna beat yhwach is hax or plot.
I would also point out the ichibeis ability, despite taking away Yhwachs power, had no affect on Yhwach, he was able to even will him out of a situation where he had no ability to do so. His ability is such that everything is his to manipulate, including his opponents.
Thats Kubo's fault.Plus the calcs are something to go by bcoz there is absolutely no scale in a multiverse battle.Equalizing speed means nerfing a character.Plus doesnt really matter if speed is equal he can only change future to something he can.He cant kill goku or defeat him bcoz he dont have a attack that can even scratch goku.Same goes for Naruto and other characters whose strength is way beyond him.
I cant wait for when Juha gets defeated.That will be gold with these kind of comments.