Yet Another Hole In The Uzumaki Theory

[Booker]

It's no mystery at this point I'm against the Uzumaki-Sage Theory, and I've just thought of another point against it.

The Senju and Uzumaki are stated to be distant blood relatives.

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Now, UzumakiSage Theorists suggest that the Elder and Younger sons- The Uchiha and Senju, respectively- weren't actual physical sons of The Sage. They suggest that The Sage used Creation of all Things to seperate the Yin and Yang portions of the Juubi to create his two sons, the Younger and Elder. They weren't born of a mother.

However, if The Sage was an Uzumaki and the Uzumaki preceded the Uchiha and Senju, they couldn't possibly be blood relatives, since there wasn't any actual blood connection; they were only created by a jutsu, not by blood relation to the Uzumaki.

 

[GreyWizard93]

Uzumakis to the sage is like anbu to the leaf.

is what I think.

 

[Shichi]

Uzumakis to the sage is like anbu to the leaf.

is what I think.

Every country has ANBU

OT: Yea I still think the sage is an Uzumaki.

 

[General PSX360]

Uzumakis to the sage is like anbu to the leaf.

is what I think.

Yea it goes something like that

 

[avenged sevenfold]

How would he create life without the use of DNA??

 

[GreyWizard93]

Every country has ANBU

OT: Yea I still think the sage is an Uzumaki.

I wanted to believe that too.

I was using the leaf as an example as thats the main village braah. XD

 

[The Necromancer]

And how do you expect Kushina would know that? To her the uzumaki and Senju were blood relatives. People don't know how to separate kishi's words from the character's words.

 

[Craziie]

I'm sticking by the uzumakisage theorist.Ride or die. U_U

Sage was an uzumaki.

 

[3MESSIAH]

And how do you expect Kushina would know that? To her the uzumaki and Senju were blood relatives. People don't know how to separate kishi's words from the character's words.

this.people take everything written in a manga as solid facts like they cant think with their own head

 

[chopstickchakra]

It's no mystery at this point I'm against the Uzumaki-Sage Theory, and I've just thought of another point against it.

The Senju and Uzumaki are stated to be distant blood relatives.

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Now, UzumakiSage Theorists suggest that the Elder and Younger sons- The Uchiha and Senju, respectively- weren't actual physical sons of The Sage. They suggest that The Sage used Creation of all Things to seperate the Yin and Yang portions of the Juubi to create his two sons, the Younger and Elder. They weren't born of a mother.

However, if The Sage was an Uzumaki and the Uzumaki preceded the Uchiha and Senju, they couldn't possibly be blood relatives, since there wasn't any actual blood connection; they were only created by a jutsu, not by blood relation to the Uzumaki.

It says DISTANT BLOOD RELATIVES, not descendants. The Uzumaki could be cousins implying there is a 3rd child yet to be mentioned. Until the manga ends it's all speculation since we can't be positive we have all the information.

 

[Booker]

And how do you expect Kushina would know that? To her the uzumaki and Senju were blood relatives. People don't know how to separate kishi's words from the character's words.

This is a classic case of neglecting one characters words in favor of another.

For instance, a beloved scan of theorists is the on where Kurama says, "Rikudo?!.." after the seal is applied, but how would he know this considering he was created at the end of The Sage's life and never had a chance to see his jutsu? Makes no sense.

This is exposition through Kishimoto. You can't just neglect it because you don't like it. Kishi is obviously giving backstory through Kushina.

 

[Booker]

It says DISTANT BLOOD RELATIVES, not descendants. The Uzumaki could be cousins implying there is a 3rd child yet to be mentioned. Until the manga ends it's all speculation since we can't be positive we have all the information.

Failed to understand the thread. Re-read and try again.

 

[rollin]

i agree too i never once believed the sage was an uzumaki
the younger son and senju's represent yang
kishi said in an interview that naruto and sasuke are on the opposite of the yin/yang spectrum

What is your feeling toward Sasuke now that he has gone through drastic change throughout the series?

Sasuke is always in the corner of my mind. Naruto and Sasuke progress as a pair. So when I write about Naruto, I always have to think about Sasuke. They are on opposite sides of the spectrum, like yin and yang.]

naruto's chakra is the exact opposite of a uchiha

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yang is symbolized by warm and bright;yin is symbolized by cold and dark
life-force and physical energies is the basis of yang chakra

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uzumaki's are known for their life-force

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uzumaki's have that yang chakra because of their relation of the sage through the senju

i honestly don't know why people keep saying the sage is an uzumaki or that the otsutsuki tribe turned into the uzumaki clan

 

[The Necromancer]

This is a classic case of neglecting one characters words in favor of another.

For instance, a beloved scan of theorists is the on where Kurama says, "Rikudo?!.." after the seal is applied, but how would he know this considering he was created at the end of The Sage's life and never had a chance to see his jutsu? Makes no sense.

This is exposition through Kishimoto. You can't just neglect it because you don't like it. Kishi is obviously giving backstory through Kushina.

That's common sense. We can assume kushina had no knowledge of the sage's lineage, as no naruto-verse character did, while you can assume Kurama's knowledge is valid as he's a thousand year old beast who knew the sage personally and has intimate knowledge of the juubi. He's already proven his intellect.

 

[Kαmi]

While I'm a skeptic of the theory myself, we can't expect Kushina to know information that dates that far back. A lot of the Sage's history is shrouded in mystery so we don't know if the sons have a mother or strictly come from the Sage himself. I'm not for or against the Uzumaki theory, but I certainly hope it gets revealed more in depth so that people stop taking sides Lol

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

And how do you expect Kushina would know that? To her the uzumaki and Senju were blood relatives. People don't know how to separate kishi's words from the character's words.

Exactly. And as Madara stated. the flow of time obfuscates details.

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It seems OP, that there is a hole in your hole-finding Lol

 

[Xāvî1]

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[DhattUchiha]

If the Uzumaki are distant relatives to the Senju, and the sage was an Uzumaki. Wouldn't that make them also distant relatives to the Uchiha as well. Since the Sage is a combination of Uchiha and Senju.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

While I'm a skeptic of the theory myself, we can't expect Kushina to know information that dates that far back. A lot of the Sage's history is shrouded in mystery

Indeed, well said.

So Immortal Itachi, I suggest you stop this rant because it only makes you look like an Immortal Butthurt Lol

 

[DhattUchiha]

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