Yata's Mirror actually invincible?

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I don't remember Kakashi's Raikiri failing to cut something

Rasengan Lol


In all seriousness I know for sure there was something it didn't cut. I'd have to go back a few hundred chapters and find the scan though.
 

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I don't remember Kakashi's Raikiri failing to cut something

V2 jinchuriki cloaks.

However, that doesn't necessarily falsify raikiri's hype, all that would mean is that V2 jinchuriki cloaks has the hype of blocking an attack that cuts through anything. And therefore the V2 jinchuriki cloaks > Yaata mirror since blocking an attack that cuts through anything > invincible.
 

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That's been disproved though. The YM hasn't.

Plus, in all honesty, don't you think a mystical weapon without a physical form that Kaguya's son vouched for would be a little more believable than a Raiton technique formed by a Jounin?

I can't recall Lightning Blade not ever cutting through anything it was used against, seriously. Link something it has never cut through.

Once again, it does not matter who vouches for it. If its stated in the manga then Kishi is vouching for it, regardless of who says it. Kakashi Lightning Blade is a slightly less version of the Rasenshuriken. Both techniques were the Rasengan to begin with. Kakashi added his lightning chakra to it but he did not successfully complete it like Naruto did with his wind. He did however do it good enough that it was labeled S rank, just like Rasenshuriken. BZ statement on YM is no more valid than Gais on LB.
 

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V2 jinchuriki cloaks.

However, that doesn't necessarily falsify raikiri's hype, all that would mean is that V2 jinchuriki cloaks has the hype of blocking an attack that cuts through anything. And therefore the V2 jinchuriki cloaks > Yaata mirror since blocking an attack that cuts through anything > invincible.

I'm 1000% Certain his Lightning Blade chain ripped V2 jinchurikis arms clean off no difficulty. I'm on phone at the moment so I can't link images or post scans.
 

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I can't recall Lightning Blade not ever cutting through anything it was used against, seriously. Link something it has never cut through.

Once again, it does not matter who vouches for it. If its stated in the manga then Kishi is vouching for it, regardless of who says it. Kakashi Lightning Blade is a slightly less version of the Rasenshuriken. Both techniques were the Rasengan to begin with. Kakashi added his lightning chakra to it but he did not successfully complete it like Naruto did with his wind. He did however do it good enough that it was labeled S rank, just like Rasenshuriken. BZ statement on YM is no more valid than Gais on LB.


Black Zetsu's statement is more valid, though, seeing as he was around to see Hagoromo, Hamura, Indra, Ashura, and was alive for thousands of years, not to mention he was Kaguya's son. He was alive much longer and therefore possesses more knowledge than Gai does. He simply has sufficient enough credentials and reputation for us to believe that what he says is accurate.
 
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True, Black Zetsu called Itachi. But notice how he said that it was yata mirror and totsuka
blade in conjuction making him invincible. If Yata Mirror was unbreakable to anything, that
would be all Itachi needed to be considered invincible. Besides, he was damaged after Kirin
hit him. Every higher version of Itachi's susanoo was shown holding Yata. Saying yata didn't break
is suggesting V1 or V2 Susanoo can protect the user from kirin enough to survive.
So, the only real feats it has was blocking explosive tags. If it was shown blocking a juubidama or something,
then we can start talking.... Regardless, I'm still sure yata mirror is an extremely top tier defense. Probably
a PS level defense. But invulnerable? No.
 

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Black Zetsu's statement is more valid, though, seeing as he was around to see Hagoromo, Hamura, Indra, Ashura, and was alive for thousands of years, not to mention he was Kaguya's son. He was alive much longer and therefore possesses more knowledge than Gai does.

No it does not. Did you read my second paragraph? Kishi writes the manga. If a character is saying it then its Kishis words and if I had a week I still couldn't list all the hyperbolic statements he has made about different techniques. Bz being whatever thousand years old is meaningless on this issue. BZ also said Amaterasu is as hot as the sun. Do you seriously believe that?
 

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No it does not. Did you read my second paragraph? Kishi writes the manga. If a character is saying it then its Kishis words and if I had a week I still couldn't list all the hyperbolic statements he has made about different techniques. Bz being whatever thousand years old is meaningless on this issue. BZ also said Amaterasu is as hot as the sun. Do you seriously believe that?

Amaterasu's heat has been disproved; the Yata has not. Until then, the manga, databook, and Kishimoto's words trump yours a hundred times over.
 

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Amaterasu's heat has been disproved; the Yata has not. Until then, the manga, databook, and Kishimoto's words trump yours a hundred times over.

And until it is proven wrong, Lightning Blade cuts through your YM.
 

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Chidori is not Lightning Blade. Desperate try, good though.

Lol, yes it is. You're such a big Kakashi wanker fan I expected you to know this.

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So yes, the YM is still, as of now, not disproven.​
 
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It's very very very vincible
 

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Lol, yes it is. You're such a big Kakashi wanker fan I expected you to know this.

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So yes, the YM is still, as of now, not disproven.​

Nope. You're just a moron who can't cope with Itachi losing to or being weaker than anyone else. This does not apply to Kakashi alone. By your dumbass logic, Rotation is also the ultimate defense, since nothing has pierced through it. Hiruzen uses tsukuyomi amaterasu and susanoo since he uses all techniques to exist in his village. Third Raikage can't be harmed, period, by Kamui Totsuka etc, only his own move can hurt him. Just stop posting and accept that Itachi can lose, lel he's already dead. He's worm food. He does not exist in series anymore. Deal with it.
 

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Well I believe It preserves it's hype by being eternal weapon so it can't be destroyed once for enternity. However I also believe it has some limit as nothing should work with no limit falacy applied to it because it causes bad writting.

IMO Juubidama, PS's slash and maybe Kurama's TBB upon clash with Yata Mirror should be able to make Yata loose it's form fades away but nullifing even TBB, PS's slash or Juubidama.It has cooldown time before it returns, so Itachi is forced to fight on his own against enemy in meantime.

I strongly believe that Itachi pulled just Yata Mirror when Sasuke brought Kirin's lightining monster upon him. I doubt he had time to manifest Sussano... besides Itachi was shown unharmed after Kirin buster whole Mountain. There also nowhere said that Itachi had to bring Yata along with Sussano. It was just equipped to Itachi's Sussano, but even Orochimaru searched for this artifact so clearly Yata and Totsuka could be used without Sussano.

My theory is that Itachi formed Yata Mirror without Sussano then after deflecting/nullifying destructive power upon himself, He fell down on ground because it costed him more power then when he uses it along with Sussano. It could prove that Yata lost it's form in real world and it had cooldown time then was brought back by Itachi when he used Sussano.

Also question to Itachi's fanboys... What is more beliveable pulling out Sussano at least v2 or even v3 to surivive Kirin, or pulling out Ethernal artifact which has magic properties but in human form instead in one or two mere second.

I believe the answer is obvious. Pulling out unwordly item to protect himself seems faster then pulling out Sussano and evolving it to v3...
 
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Madara can absorb and nullify nin jutsu. Nice try though. Also that was a Sasuke's chidori, not Kakashi's raikiri.

Raikiri and Chidori are the same thing. You clearly didn't bother to read the scan I provided.

And no, Madara couldn't absorb it because it was Senjutsu enhanced. Do you want the full scan, or are you going to overlook it as well?
 

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Damn. Yata Mirror is best. Can Yata Mirror block sun rays and prevent Itachi from getting a tan too?
 
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