Yata Mirror Truly Invincible?

[One Way Road]

Because ninjutsu came after Kaguya and Hagoromo. There was no such thing as it during their time. He passed ninshuu on to his sons and when he died, the rise of ninja techniques began.

Totsuka is imbued with a damn funinjutsu that traps you in a genjutsu forever, so someone had to place those respective techniques there for them to work that way.

Yata is imbued with all 5 natures, again, someone had to seal them in it for it to be like that. We know they aren't the Sages Tools, Cloud had those and there's only 5, not including the likes of Yata. Tata, Totsuka, and Kusanagi (Orochimarus) are apart of a different set of 3 legendary weapons and unless you telling me they came from someone predating Kaguya (which is impossible for reasons stated above), the burden of proof is on you to provide where they're from and why they're invincible.

rekt his ******* pretty bad there.

 

[DrProof]

Because ninjutsu came after Kaguya and Hagoromo. There was no such thing as it during their time. He passed ninshuu on to his sons and when he died, the rise of ninja techniques began.

Totsuka is imbued with a damn funinjutsu that traps you in a genjutsu forever, so someone had to place those respective techniques there for them to work that way.

Yata is imbued with all 5 natures, again, someone had to seal them in it for it to be like that. We know they aren't the Sages Tools, Cloud had those and there's only 5, not including the likes of Yata. Tata, Totsuka, and Kusanagi (Orochimarus) are apart of a different set of 3 legendary weapons and unless you telling me they came from someone predating Kaguya (which is impossible for reasons stated above), the burden of proof is on you to provide where they're from and why they're invincible.

Good job.

 

[Kaneki Kun]

Because ninjutsu came after Kaguya and Hagoromo. There was no such thing as it during their time. He passed ninshuu on to his sons and when he died, the rise of ninja techniques began.

Totsuka is imbued with a damn funinjutsu that traps you in a genjutsu forever, so someone had to place those respective techniques there for them to work that way.

Yata is imbued with all 5 natures, again, someone had to seal them in it for it to be like that. We know they aren't the Sages Tools, Cloud had those and there's only 5, not including the likes of Yata. Tata, Totsuka, and Kusanagi (Orochimarus) are apart of a different set of 3 legendary weapons and unless you telling me they came from someone predating Kaguya (which is impossible for reasons stated above), the burden of proof is on you to provide where they're from and why they're invincible.

Interesting you make a fair point thank you for explaining.
"unless you telling me they came from someone predating Kaguya"
That could be possible since history can be forgotten over time, every millennium, the God tree would grow a mysterious fruit. Who's to say Kaguya was the only one?
Lol you may never know. (Just fanfic over here don't take it serious)
As far as Yata Mirror being invincible
Manga has stated it, databook has stated it.

 

[Trúth]

Because ninjutsu came after Kaguya and Hagoromo. There was no such thing as it during their time. He passed ninshuu on to his sons and when he died, the rise of ninja techniques began.

Totsuka is imbued with a damn funinjutsu that traps you in a genjutsu forever, so someone had to place those respective techniques there for them to work that way.

Totsuka is not the topic here. Totsuka and Yata aren't even typically a pair, they have no relation with each other aside from the fact that Itachi used them both. A fact made obvious by the fact that Orochimaru recognized one and not the other.

Yata is imbued with all 5 natures, again, someone had to seal them in it for it to be like that. We know they aren't the Sages Tools, Cloud had those and there's only 5, not including the likes of Yata. Tata, Totsuka, and Kusanagi (Orochimarus) are apart of a different set of 3 legendary weapons and unless you telling me they came from someone predating Kaguya (which is impossible for reasons stated above), the burden of proof is on you to provide where they're from and why they're invincible.

I don't know what this nonsense is. Nowhere does it say that Yata was imbued with all five natures, only that the mirror has the power to change all of it's attributes in accordance with the attack.

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The proof of where it's from? Obviously never going to find any unless Kishi reveals it. There's plenty to back up the mirror being invincible however, you choosing to dismiss it is not the same as it not existing. U_U

 

[CloyEscapade]

Ask the dead guy

 

[DrProof]

Interesting you make a fair point thank you for explaining.
"unless you telling me they came from someone predating Kaguya"
That could be possible since history can be forgotten over time, every millennium, the God tree would grow a mysterious fruit. Who's to say Kaguya was the only one?
Lol you may never know. (Just fanfic over here don't take it serious)
As far as Yata Mirror being invincible
Manga has stated it, databook has stated it.

Yup, yup.

Totsuka is not the topic here. Totsuka and Yata aren't even typically a pair, they have no relation with each other aside from the fact that Itachi used them both. A fact made obvious by the fact that Orochimaru recognized one and not the other.



I don't know what this nonsense is. Nowhere does it say that Yata was imbued with all five natures, only that the mirror has the power to change all of it's attributes in accordance with the attack.

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The proof of where it's from? Obviously never going to find any unless Kishi reveals it. There's plenty to back up the mirror being invincible however, you choosing to dismiss it is not the same as it not existing. U_U

Nice one bro.

 

[LuckyMan]

Interesting you make a fair point thank you for explaining.
"unless you telling me they came from someone predating Kaguya"
That could be possible since history can be forgotten over time, every millennium, the God tree would grow a mysterious fruit. Who's to say Kaguya was the only one?
Lol you may never know. (Just fanfic over here don't take it serious)
As far as Yata Mirror being invincible
Manga has stated it, databook has stated it.

And this entire point is pure speculation which makes your whole post invalid.

Totsuka is not the topic here. Totsuka and Yata aren't even typically a pair, they have no relation with each other aside from the fact that Itachi used them both. A fact made obvious by the fact that Orochimaru recognized one and not the other.

They have a relation because they make up two of a set of three legendary weapons.

I don't know what this nonsense is. Nowhere does it say that Yata was imbued with all five natures, only that the mirror has the power to change all of it's attributes in accordance with the attack.

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Dude, everything in this manga is connected by chakra and jutsu. If it can change its properties then its imbued with all 5 natures. How do I know this? Because what you're referring to is action at a distance with nothing to connect the dots. That is the very definition of magic, which doesn't exist in NarutoVerse. There is something connecting the dots to any and everything be it chakra, etc but there is always something.

The proof of where it's from? Obviously never going to find any unless Kishi reveals it. There's plenty to back up the mirror being invincible however, you choosing to dismiss it is not the same as it not existing. U_U

Itachi, the wielder of this weapon, said himself everything has a weakness, no? Now this is not proof Yata isn't invincible but its something that has been backed up in the manga for everything we've seen in the entire series from chapter 1 to 700. Everything has a limit! What is the highest thing we've seen in the manga? Truth Seeking Balls/Infinite Tsukuyomi and both of them have a weakness/limit right? Leave all your bias out for Itachi and think about that. Anyone who can do that will understand this is true. Think about anything in the manga and I promise you it has a weakness or a limit. Go ahead and try. Now why would Yata and Totsuka be an exception to this? Because Black Zetsu said so? He also said Amaterasu is inextinguishable so anything from him can't be taken as fact because hes been disproved already. Because databook calls it a spirit weapon or something? It being a spirit weapon doesn't mean its invincible.

I'm dismissing it as false because of several reasons and they far outweigh any examples you can come up with for why it is invincible.

 

[P3ĮÑ]

Here comes the elated fallacies, how whimsical. I guess no one on this forum grasps the concept of hyperboles/No limits fallacy.

 

[Demonic.]

Of course it is but Gaara can sink it and V4 Susanoo with his sand :bdpf:

 

[KCMNaruto]

Here comes the elated fallacies, how whimsical. I guess no one on this forum grasps the concept of hyperboles/No limits fallacy.

Exactly that is the reason, unless Kishi introduce the primordial gods who are more powerfull and have dropped these weapons to narutoverse world- Farfetched as hell...

Or they could be the weapons of villain in Boruto the movie himself... lol.

 

[Apêx1]

Here comes the elated fallacies, how whimsical. I guess no one on this forum grasps the concept of hyperboles/No limits fallacy.

Foh pein br0

OT: Yata should be invincible in the Naruto Verse itself. Other over-hyped attacks like Doton: Domu were actually implied to be destructible by a rare few in the Databook. However, every claim ever made concerning Yata Mirror, whether it be hyping it up or merely a Databook description, has had it come off as an unstoppable defence. It's not just a 1-statement-hyperbole, it's been stated everywhere. Moreover, if your human skin was more durable than a shield, you wouldn't use a shield as it would have no effect. The same applies to Yata Mirror being mounted onto v4 Susano. Why would a v4 Susano need a shield that has less durability then itself? It doesn't, hence Yata Mirror isn't. If v3 can tank Kirin and v4 survives a moderate TBB then Yata+v4 tanks it. Many jutsu like FRS would lose effectiveness because of the fact that Yata Mirror's mechanics were through deflection, thus it would deflect FRS's spin against itself and make dissipate like ST did here [

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]. IMO anything below larger scaled TBB's and PS shockwaves would be useless.

 

[maniaoqan]

Yata Mirror isn't regular defence. It is reflecting the attack back at you. Kabutowari's damage will be reflected back and destroy Kabutowari.

Yata gg :bdpf:

 

[Strict]

Yata mirror repels the Big Bang unless proven otherwise.

Joke aside. First learn the difference between hype and feats.

Yata mirror's hype: It deflects any attack.
Yata mirror's feat: The ability to change every one of its properties, allowing it to alter its attributes in accordance with the attributes of the attack. This is simply the Yata mirror's ability. So if the TBB is about to hit the shield, the shield alters its attributes in accordance with the TBB and repels it. If the PS hits the shield, the shield changes its properties in accordance with the slash and nullifies it. Like two same forces cancelling each other out.

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illustrates, that attacks are not blocked but repelled.

It's like Totsuka is the ultimate sealing technique.

 

[Amaterasu]

No it's not a mini Bijuudama is enough

 

[NSUNSR]

It is as if no one on this base has ever heard of exaggaration and hyperboles.

 

[Itachi Solos]

Can you read? <-- The answer to this question is the same as the answer to the thread title.

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