Yamato vs. Akatsuki Duo.

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Nah :lol

Because if we're simply talking scale Yamato does not have the jutsu that Hashi does, if we take Yamato's jutsu give it Hashi's scale and we get part one Hashi who was simply spawning wood without any special properties such as Spores, or whatever else he has. Nor do we even get the constructs he was using as Yamato has showed none of that really.

Lmfao what are you talking about? I take it you didn't read like I told you to.

-Yamato has Jukai Kotan.
-Thus when his jutsu become Hashirama level they become the same exact jutsu.

Nothing you posted is even remotely a reply to anything already stated. Cause no one mentioned spores or constructs.
 

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Lmfao what are you talking about? I take it you didn't read like I told you to.

-Yamato has Jukai Kotan.
-Thus when his jutsu become Hashirama level they become the same exact jutsu.

Nothing you posted is even remotely a reply to anything already stated. Cause no one mentioned spores or constructs.

He does? Which is exacctly what part one Hashi did isn't it? You're the one not making any sense due to the simple fact that the jutsu doesn't help defeat Kakuzu in anyway.
 

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He does? Which is exacctly what part one Hashi did isn't it? You're the one not making any sense due to the simple fact that the jutsu doesn't help defeat Kakuzu in anyway.

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Dude. What the actual hell are you talking about? What Pt. 1 Hashirama did and what Edo Madara did ARE THE SAME EXACT JUTSU. Get that through your head first of all. How it was used is completely irrelevant. It's the same jutsu. Same. Jutsu.

Second of all, Yamato's version is a downscaled version. Give him Hashirama level Mokuton and he becomes capable of using the same Jukai Kotan Madara and Hashirama can use.

Finally, go read my arguments.

Kakuzu gets shitted on. Period.
 

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Dude. What the actual hell are you talking about? What Pt. 1 Hashirama did and what Edo Madara did ARE THE SAME EXACT JUTSU. Get that through your head first of all. How it was used is completely irrelevant. It's the same jutsu. Same. Jutsu.

Second of all, Yamato's version is a downscaled version. Give him Hashirama level Mokuton and he becomes capable of using the same Jukai Kotan Madara and Hashirama can use.

Finally, go read my arguments.

Kakuzu gets shitted on. Period.

No :lol and what Madara did still doesn't harm Kakuzu if I'm remebering correctly......
 

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No :lol and what Madara did still doesn't harm Kakuzu if I'm remebering correctly......

Go read everything that's been posted, form a counter, and then reply since you clearly have no idea what you are talking about here. "No" isn't an argument.
 

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Go read everything that's been posted, form a counter, and then reply since you clearly have no idea what you are talking about here. "No" isn't an argument.

Jesus christ I am not reading you're shit because it has no relevance to me. I've seen what you two are arguing and its pretty much pointless.

-I don't care if Kakuzu can halt the advance of the wood because he has other ways of dealing with it, such as evasion or burning the wood.
-Wood isn't a good attack method against someone who's body is one giant cushion and has a hardening technique.
-Using such a large scale technique against a single person merely means you're losing your focus on them, which will happen here.
 

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Jesus christ I am not reading you're shit because it has no relevance to me. I've seen what you two are arguing and its pretty much pointless.

-I don't care if Kakuzu can halt the advance of the wood because he has other ways of dealing with it, such as evasion or burning the wood.
-Wood isn't a good attack method against someone who's body is one giant cushion and has a hardening technique.
-Using such a large scale technique against a single person merely means you're losing your focus on them, which will happen here.

If you would sit down, stop posting and actually start reading you'd realize that you literally have no idea what you are talking about as I said before. Now, after I explain why your post is wrong, again, go READ and then come back and reply.

1. Irrelevant as that is not what we were discussing. And when you can actually get me a feat from Kakuzu that lets his Katon burn the entire forest coming at him, then we can talk. Until then all I see is you wanking/downplaying. Get me a feat from Kakuzu that lets him evade attacks on the scale of Jukai Kotan too while you're at it.

2. Irrelevant as that's not how damage works. Kakuzu's insides being mostly thread doesn't change the fact that the parts that aren't thread can and will be crushed, or are you going to argue some shit like "Kakuzu is invulnerable to blunt force attacks because lol threads"?

3. What in the hell? Losing his focus on the target is 100% irrelevant when the target doesn't survive. Losing his focus on a target buried under wood is irrelevant. Weak counter is weak.
 

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The initial branches of Madara's Flower Tree World were strong enough to destroy one of Onoki's massive Rock Golems. Putting Yamato's Mokuton on that scale means he's going to crush Kakuzu just as easily. Domu's defensive hype ended when a casual Raikiri from Kakashi was able to pierce it. Nothing leads me to believe his technique will fair any better against Madara/Hashirama scale Mokuton than a Doton from a kage proficient in the element.
 

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The initial branches of Madara's Flower Tree World were strong enough to destroy one of Onoki's massive Rock Golems. Putting Yamato's Mokuton on that scale means he's going to crush Kakuzu just as easily. Domu's defensive hype ended when a casual Raikiri from Kakashi was able to pierce it. Nothing leads me to believe his technique will fair any better against Madara/Hashirama scale Mokuton than a Doton from a kage proficient in the element.

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Let's also throw in the fact that Jukai Kotan matches Naruto's Kurama Chakra Enhanced Rasengan when it comes to overall force. (Since I know Zexion isn't going to read like I told him to) Even more reason why this guy and his beyond overwanked defense is shitted on.
 

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If you would sit down, stop posting and actually start reading you'd realize that you literally have no idea what you are talking about as I said before. Now, after I explain why your post is wrong, again, go READ and then come back and reply.

Arrogance :rolleyes:

1. Irrelevant as that is not what we were discussing. And when you can actually get me a feat from Kakuzu that lets his Katon burn the entire forest coming at him, then we can talk. Until then all I see is you wanking/downplaying. Get me a feat from Kakuzu that lets him evade attacks on the scale of Jukai Kotan too while you're at it.

He doesn't need to brun the entire forest obviously, he's sending a mass of wood forward all he needs to do is burn the wood in the vicinity to affect him. His fuutons even an option seeing as rasengans were able to not only stalemate it but completely end the attack. But you can keep arguign that with EJ

2. Irrelevant as that's not how damage works. Kakuzu's insides being mostly thread doesn't change the fact that the parts that aren't thread can and will be crushed, or are you going to argue some shit like "Kakuzu is invulnerable to blunt force attacks because lol threads"?

Uh yes it does :lol that means that there is one ONE spot in his body that immense force would have to be applied in order for him to recieve fatal damage. Seeing as the wood wasn't even portrayed to be much larger than Naruto if at all (individually) and that its merely force, the wood clearly would simply push Kakuzu backwards while the threads recieve the brunt of the blow. Anatomy, whe nstruck by something the force is usually distributed fairly evenly throughout the body now take into account the two factors Kakuzu has in advantage here:

1.That Kakuzu has no organs in multiple spots so the force spreading is merely hitting fodder area.
2.Threads are also covering his body which can then take even more force, just like how when we take force it mostly afflcits the bones of the human body :rolleyes: flexible threads taking that blow is much more useful.

If you can find proof that an attack like that would undoubtably crush even a normal humans heart then by all means give it to me.

3. What in the hell? Losing his focus on the target is 100% irrelevant when the target doesn't survive. Losing his focus on a target buried under wood is irrelevant. Weak counter is weak.

He would never be burried, at the worst he goes undergroudn to avoid, and I don't think you realize the mass of wood has gaps that people can easily utilize by maneuvering on the wood itself.

Let's also throw in the fact that Jukai Kotan matches Naruto's Kurama Chakra Enhanced Rasengan when it comes to overall force. (Since I know Zexion isn't going to read like I told him to) Even more reason why this guy and his beyond overwanked defense is shitted on.

Uh no it was destroyed by the enahcned Rasengan didn't match it for shit :lol. So what exactly are you saying will happen here? Domu is going to be what, cracked, broken, penetrated?
 
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Considering Yamato can use Mokuton on Hashirama's scale, Nagato is the only that one shots.
 

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Arrogance :rolleyes:



He doesn't need to brun the entire forest obviously, he's sending a mass of wood forward all he needs to do is burn the wood in the vicinity to affect him. His fuutons even an option seeing as rasengans were able to not only stalemate it but completely end the attack. But you can keep arguign that with EJ

-Evidence he can turn Mokuton to ash? Oh wait, there is none.
-If it grows from the ground, burning what's in front of him doesn't matter as everything else will crush him once it reaches his position.
-Evidence that it matches what Naruto did? Oh wait. Doesn't exist.

Try again later.


Uh yes it does :lol that means that there is one ONE spot in his body that immense force would have to be applied in order for him to recieve fatal damage. Seeing as the wood wasn't even portrayed to be much larger than Naruto if at all (individually) and that its merely force, the wood clearly would simply push Kakuzu backwards while the threads recieve the brunt of the blow. Anatomy, whe nstruck by something the force is usually distributed fairly evenly throughout the body now take into account the two factors Kakuzu has in advantage here:

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Done lying about the Manga? Add the fact that there is more than one branch and you come to the obvious conclusion that Kakuzu gets crushed.

1.That Kakuzu has no organs in multiple spots so the force spreading is merely hitting fodder area.

Irrelevant as the force is applied to his entire body.

2.Threads are also covering his body which can then take even more force, just like how when we take force it mostly afflcits the bones of the human body :rolleyes: flexible threads taking that blow is much more useful.
Irrelevant as they don't have the defensive power to absorb the force and leave the rest of his body intact.



He would never be burried, at the worst he goes undergroudn to avoid, and I don't think you realize the mass of wood has gaps that people can easily utilize by maneuvering on the wood itself.

-Scans of Kakuzu using Hiding like a Mole or anything similar? And don't bring that scan of his hand going underground to prove that his whole body can do the same. :lol
-Zero gaps that Kakuzu would be able to slide in between as shown in the Manga that you clearly aren't reading.
-Jumping on the wood is just an invitation to get crushed. :lol Terrible ass plan.


Uh no it was destroyed by the enahcned Rasengan didn't match it for shit :lol. So what exactly are you saying will happen here? Domu is going to be what, cracked, broken, penetrated?

If you are just going to make nonsense posts with nonsense argumentation and not address what has already been explained with an argument then you'd do us all a favor by not replying.

Lol. Let's see. It took Naruto a barrage of Oodama Rasengan . At the end of it all he stopped the branches advance, but didn't obliterate all of them and go right past, thus Jukai Kotan=Barrage of man large Rasengan enhanced by Kurama's chakra.

Meaning:

-Jukai Kotan comes rushing at Naruto.
-Naruto uses large Oodama Rasengan barrage.
-Naruto clashes with Jukai Kotan.
-The clash ends with Jukai Kotan stopping right in it's tracks while Naruto's attack has been used up, but he himself wasn't hit.

Meaning the force Jukai Kotan had behind it matched what Naruto put against it. If Naruto's attack put out more force, then Naruto would've plowed through the branches and hit Madara. If Jukai Kotan put out more force, then it would've plowed through Naruto's Rasengan and hit him. They were matched. He can't tank Naruto's attack so he never tanks Hashirama's attack. Point blank period.

Though you've been stupidly downplaying Mokuton and literally wanking everything put against it for months now. So this doesn't surprise me.

The same amount of force being applied to the same target will result in the same amount of damage. The only thing that will change the amount of damage done is the amount of force that is applied on a certain area. Jukai Kotan and Chou Oodama Rasengan's areas of effect on a target are no different as shown in the Manga. Thus the damage done to the target will be the same. Lmfao. I'd understand if you were just arguing that the forces weren't equal (which is exactly what you were arguing given your nonsense examples so don't try to front) but now you are actually trying to argue that same force=/=same damage for two attacks with the same AoE due to things that don't even relate to the topic at hand.

-Substance is irrelevant. Substance leads to the principle stated above.
-Priority? Irrelevant. More bullshit you are pulling out of your **** cavity.

Your claim is 100% foolish for the simple fact that the Manga outright shows Naruto's attack matching the wood. If Naruto's attack was stronger he would've completely obliterated it and still had force left over from his Rasengan to crush it and go further. If Naruto "destroyed it" we wouldn't see a pile of wood laying right in front of where Naruto struck in the first place.

And this is why I told you to stop posting and start reading, cause I addressed this when I was arguing with EjBlack. If you had done what I told you to do I wouldn't be repeating myself. Jukai Kotan crashes into Domu and Kakuzu gets turned into a pancake, or he gets ripped apart. Simple as that.
 

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Zexion, what is Kakuzu's counter to the wood statue I showed, upgraded to Hashirama's scale?
 

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I give up have no effort for this after a 20 page essay.

You're just severely hyping wodden tree's being thrusted at a person :lol
 

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I give up have no effort for this after a 20 page essay.

You're just severely hyping wodden tree's being thrusted at a person :lol

If you don't have an argument then your opinion (of all people when it comes to overhyping/wanking) is invalid and not wanted. :lol
 
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