Yamato ( PC) V.S Kakuzu ( Zex~)

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Location - Open grass field
Intent- To kill
Starting distance- 20 meters
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Knowledge- Basic manga info. Meaning yamato has knowledge on kakuzu's abilties because of their encounter back in part 2 and vice versa for kakuzu he knows Yamato can use wood release. Basic knowledge.

Prince charles- defending Yamato

Zexion~ -Defending Kakuzu



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yamato is supposed to pull off what hashirama couldn't? Rollololololol
 

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PC you should also be trying to figure out round 3 of the tourney :/ it needs to happen soon
 

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@Zexion I posted in the debate group and im working on my opening in a but.

@Agoodboy Dont underestimate Yamato.
 

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My opening Post
Alright a lot of underestimation regarding Yamato has been happening a lot and I feel he doesn't get the attention that he deserves. So I will explain why he takes kakuzu high diff.

Yamato the perfect counter to Kakuzu
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Knowing kakuzu he will most likely try to confront yamato first off in a quick Taijutsu Match as shown against Team 10 Kakuzu is experienced in taijutsu and comfortably uses it a lot [ ]. Yamato will have no trouble keeping up with Kakuzu if he feels the need to come in close for hand-to-hand combat as demonstrated against Naruto and Sai he is also very comfortable in the use of his taijutsu as he .

Taking all this into consideration Yamato will have no problem coming into close contact with Kakuzu. Hand-to-hand combat isnt Kakuzu's only fighting style. He also incorporates the use of extending his arms with the use of his treads to catch his enemy[ ][ ]. This tactic from kakuzu which evolves extending his arm and his treads to capture his enemy will prove to be futile as seeing Yamato can easily get out of the situation.

Counter to kakuzu use of his treads
Yamato has already shown the capability off sprouting wood from the ground up as a way to defend him or capture his opponent.
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Kakuzu's best bet here would be to evade going in for close combat with yamato because he will fall victim to this. Regarding his threads yamato has shown more then a number of ways to easily evade them. Considering the location of this match a grass field best suits Yamato. He can easily sprout large amount of wood form the surface as way to to So as you can clearly see Yamato has many ways to evade Kakuzu's threads.

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Kakuzu will not be only facing one opponent here as shown yamato can easily create mukoton clones which have the same abilities as him. Kakuzu will have to be on his top guard at all time's because added with the wood clone kakuzu will have to watch his back from all sides because Yamato can easily manipulate the direction in which his mukoton goes[ ][ ].

Countering Kakuzu's Masks

Honestly the mask are not a problem here. This is where the use of Yamato mukoton clone comes into play here because while Yamato is taking care of Kakuzu the wood clone can deal with the masks. The wood clone first objective would be to restrain the movements of the masks with his he used to restrain the giant octopus. As you can clearly see the octopus is clearly several times larger than the masks and Yamato was capable of restraining it within seconds he will have no trouble ceasing the movements of the masks.

After the masks are restrained by the wood clone it will completely render its movements with the which was capable of suppressing kisames chakra, the masks will not be able to function properly since their chakra is being suppressed.

Countering the masks firepower

Yamato has numerous ways to evade or tank the attacks of the Masks upfront. One particular way is to use the attack prevention technique. The attack prevention technique is basically allows the users to merge in with their current environment as shown with orochimaru did the same thing in the . Yamato has also been shown to be able to merge into the environment[ ]. So as you can yamato has defense mechanisms capable of evading the blasts from the masks and also catching Kakuzu off guard.

Countering the fire/wind combo masks
Yamato has shown to be able to counter the fire and wind masks.
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Yamato has show to create large vent of water more than capable of dealing with the fire/wind masks variants. While I admit narutos rasenshuriken increased the attack it doesn't change the fact that Water still has a clear advantage over fire.

With the use of his mukoton jutsu yamato is more than able to produce a block wood to shield him self from the radius of the blasts of the masks. The durability of the wood shield should not be underrated it was capable to still stand after the blast from 4th tail narutos power.
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Yamato changing the environment to his needs
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Kakuzu using the blast of his masks from inside his body is the last thing he wants to do. As shown the masks take a considerable amount of time to charge up which will simply leave Kakuzu too vulnerable.

During that moment Yamato can easily making kakuzu fall while he is charging his blast and will end up damaging himself from his own blast.

But wait how can Yamato do this while he is being restrained by kakuzu's treads?
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Quite easily really with the use of his wood clone's the clone will easily perform loosen the treads by cutting them by transforming their arm into mukoton[ ]

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It was already shown that kakuzu had to be on his guard when Yamato used his wood branches to attack him. So while Kakuzu is restraining Yamato for a blast, he can easily counter with making his arm form branches which will go for kakuzu making him either taking it head on or cancel his blast.

Yamato has more than a number a ways to evade the masks and kakuzu's blast. The most favorable one would be to merge into the environment as I proved he can do.

I didnt go over everything in kakuzus arsenal and etc.. This was just a simple approach opening​
 

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My opening Post
Alright a lot of underestimation regarding Yamato has been happening a lot and I feel he doesn't get the attention that he deserves. So I will explain why he takes kakuzu high diff.

Yamato the perfect counter to Kakuzu
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Knowing kakuzu he will most likely try to confront yamato first off in a quick Taijutsu Match as shown against Team 10 Kakuzu is experienced in taijutsu and comfortably uses it a lot [ ]. Yamato will have no trouble keeping up with Kakuzu if he feels the need to come in close for hand-to-hand combat as demonstrated against Naruto and Sai he is also very comfortable in the use of his taijutsu as he .

Taking all this into consideration Yamato will have no problem coming into close contact with Kakuzu. Hand-to-hand combat isnt Kakuzu's only fighting style. He also incorporates the use of extending his arms with the use of his treads to catch his enemy[ ][ ]. This tactic from kakuzu which evolves extending his arm and his treads to capture his enemy will prove to be futile as seeing Yamato can easily get out of the situation.

Counter to kakuzu use of his treads
Yamato has already shown the capability off sprouting wood from the ground up as a way to defend him or capture his opponent.
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Kakuzu's best bet here would be to evade going in for close combat with yamato because he will fall victim to this. Regarding his threads yamato has shown more then a number of ways to easily evade them. Considering the location of this match a grass field best suits Yamato. He can easily sprout large amount of wood form the surface as way to to So as you can clearly see Yamato has many ways to evade Kakuzu's threads.

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Kakuzu will not be only facing one opponent here as shown yamato can easily create mukoton clones which have the same abilities as him. Kakuzu will have to be on his top guard at all time's because added with the wood clone kakuzu will have to watch his back from all sides because Yamato can easily manipulate the direction in which his mukoton goes[ ][ ].

Countering Kakuzu's Masks

Honestly the mask are not a problem here. This is where the use of Yamato mukoton clone comes into play here because while Yamato is taking care of Kakuzu the wood clone can deal with the masks. The wood clone first objective would be to restrain the movements of the masks with his he used to restrain the giant octopus. As you can clearly see the octopus is clearly several times larger than the masks and Yamato was capable of restraining it within seconds he will have no trouble ceasing the movements of the masks.

After the masks are restrained by the wood clone it will completely render its movements with the which was capable of suppressing kisames chakra, the masks will not be able to function properly since their chakra is being suppressed.

Countering the masks firepower

Yamato has numerous ways to evade or tank the attacks of the Masks upfront. One particular way is to use the attack prevention technique. The attack prevention technique is basically allows the users to merge in with their current environment as shown with orochimaru did the same thing in the . Yamato has also been shown to be able to merge into the environment[ ]. So as you can yamato has defense mechanisms capable of evading the blasts from the masks and also catching Kakuzu off guard.

Countering the fire/wind combo masks
Yamato has shown to be able to counter the fire and wind masks.
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Yamato has show to create large vent of water more than capable of dealing with the fire/wind masks variants. While I admit narutos rasenshuriken increased the attack it doesn't change the fact that Water still has a clear advantage over fire.

With the use of his mukoton jutsu yamato is more than able to produce a block wood to shield him self from the radius of the blasts of the masks. The durability of the wood shield should not be underrated it was capable to still stand after the blast from 4th tail narutos power.
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Yamato changing the environment to his needs
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Kakuzu using the blast of his masks from inside his body is the last thing he wants to do. As shown the masks take a considerable amount of time to charge up which will simply leave Kakuzu too vulnerable.

During that moment Yamato can easily making kakuzu fall while he is charging his blast and will end up damaging himself from his own blast.

But wait how can Yamato do this while he is being restrained by kakuzu's treads?
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Quite easily really with the use of his wood clone's the clone will easily perform loosen the treads by cutting them by transforming their arm into mukoton[ ]

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It was already shown that kakuzu had to be on his guard when Yamato used his wood branches to attack him. So while Kakuzu is restraining Yamato for a blast, he can easily counter with making his arm form branches which will go for kakuzu making him either taking it head on or cancel his blast.

Yamato has more than a number a ways to evade the masks and kakuzu's blast. The most favorable one would be to merge into the environment as I proved he can do.

I didnt go over everything in kakuzus arsenal and etc.. This was just a simple approach opening​

I would of teared this up if I had the time ;)

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My opening Post
Alright a lot of underestimation regarding Yamato has been happening a lot and I feel he doesn't get the attention that he deserves. So I will explain why he takes kakuzu high diff.

Yamato the perfect counter to Kakuzu
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Knowing kakuzu he will most likely try to confront yamato first off in a quick Taijutsu Match as shown against Team 10 Kakuzu is experienced in taijutsu and comfortably uses it a lot [ ]. Yamato will have no trouble keeping up with Kakuzu if he feels the need to come in close for hand-to-hand combat as demonstrated against Naruto and Sai he is also very comfortable in the use of his taijutsu as he .

Taking all this into consideration Yamato will have no problem coming into close contact with Kakuzu. Hand-to-hand combat isnt Kakuzu's only fighting style. He also incorporates the use of extending his arms with the use of his treads to catch his enemy[ ][ ]. This tactic from kakuzu which evolves extending his arm and his treads to capture his enemy will prove to be futile as seeing Yamato can easily get out of the situation.

Counter to kakuzu use of his treads
Yamato has already shown the capability off sprouting wood from the ground up as a way to defend him or capture his opponent.
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Kakuzu's best bet here would be to evade going in for close combat with yamato because he will fall victim to this. Regarding his threads yamato has shown more then a number of ways to easily evade them. Considering the location of this match a grass field best suits Yamato. He can easily sprout large amount of wood form the surface as way to to So as you can clearly see Yamato has many ways to evade Kakuzu's threads.

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Kakuzu will not be only facing one opponent here as shown yamato can easily create mukoton clones which have the same abilities as him. Kakuzu will have to be on his top guard at all time's because added with the wood clone kakuzu will have to watch his back from all sides because Yamato can easily manipulate the direction in which his mukoton goes[ ][ ].

Countering Kakuzu's Masks

Honestly the mask are not a problem here. This is where the use of Yamato mukoton clone comes into play here because while Yamato is taking care of Kakuzu the wood clone can deal with the masks. The wood clone first objective would be to restrain the movements of the masks with his he used to restrain the giant octopus. As you can clearly see the octopus is clearly several times larger than the masks and Yamato was capable of restraining it within seconds he will have no trouble ceasing the movements of the masks.

After the masks are restrained by the wood clone it will completely render its movements with the which was capable of suppressing kisames chakra, the masks will not be able to function properly since their chakra is being suppressed.

Countering the masks firepower

Yamato has numerous ways to evade or tank the attacks of the Masks upfront. One particular way is to use the attack prevention technique. The attack prevention technique is basically allows the users to merge in with their current environment as shown with orochimaru did the same thing in the . Yamato has also been shown to be able to merge into the environment[ ]. So as you can yamato has defense mechanisms capable of evading the blasts from the masks and also catching Kakuzu off guard.

Countering the fire/wind combo masks
Yamato has shown to be able to counter the fire and wind masks.
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Yamato has show to create large vent of water more than capable of dealing with the fire/wind masks variants. While I admit narutos rasenshuriken increased the attack it doesn't change the fact that Water still has a clear advantage over fire.

With the use of his mukoton jutsu yamato is more than able to produce a block wood to shield him self from the radius of the blasts of the masks. The durability of the wood shield should not be underrated it was capable to still stand after the blast from 4th tail narutos power.
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Yamato changing the environment to his needs
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Kakuzu using the blast of his masks from inside his body is the last thing he wants to do. As shown the masks take a considerable amount of time to charge up which will simply leave Kakuzu too vulnerable.

During that moment Yamato can easily making kakuzu fall while he is charging his blast and will end up damaging himself from his own blast.

But wait how can Yamato do this while he is being restrained by kakuzu's treads?
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Quite easily really with the use of his wood clone's the clone will easily perform loosen the treads by cutting them by transforming their arm into mukoton[ ]

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It was already shown that kakuzu had to be on his guard when Yamato used his wood branches to attack him. So while Kakuzu is restraining Yamato for a blast, he can easily counter with making his arm form branches which will go for kakuzu making him either taking it head on or cancel his blast.

Yamato has more than a number a ways to evade the masks and kakuzu's blast. The most favorable one would be to merge into the environment as I proved he can do.

I didnt go over everything in kakuzus arsenal and etc.. This was just a simple approach opening​

Not bad =D

Edit: After reading the Kakuzu post....
 
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Jesus christ did not espect that much effort lol .. Will post either later today or later tomorrow as i will be at a house with no internet :/
 

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Kakuzu


Countering your "Taijutsu Points

First off i'd like to bring up that both Kakuzu and Yamato each have a 4 in the Databook. Meaning their taijutsu skills are pretty much on par, However Kakuzu has 2 factors that would give him the edge if they were to go up in a taijutsu fight, One would be ...Doton Domu First off this means that even if Yamato could land a hit on Kakuzu he would only hurt himself badly and his reaction time has already been shown to be above average (yes he used Domu here, it may not look it but the Data book refers to it as using Domu) so reacting to a hit from Yamato should be no big feat, not only does it up his Defensive capabilities but it gives His offensive taijutsu much more destructive strength, as you can see here... With the combined skills of the Domu plus already having an equal skill in Taijutsu.. Kakuzu beats Yamato in a CQC fight every time,

Kakuzu Getting Trapped?
So you think Kakuzu would just simply be defeated by such a mere trapping strategy? You are mistaken my man, not only was Kakuzu able to react and avoid SHADOWS meaning he should be able to avoid slower wood erupting from the ground but he can also pull a similar method that Kisame did with his larger trap .. and simply harden his fist and break his hand free and then quickly free his other parts .. As its already been shown to break iron , Wood is not stopping it also you think yamato can simply glide away from Kakuzu's threads? When the speed of the threads was so great a Sharingan user could not see them coming No way Yamato is creating all that wood and then gliding away in time,

Honestly the mask are not a problem here

:what: The wood clone is a fairly obvious process, and a slower one then the usual clone techniques .. Seeing as we are on a field Yamato will have no place to hide and conceal his clone creation, He need simply use Searing migraine and both of them will be engulfed - It obviously rips apart wood, so at the very least the clone would be obliterated yamato may also fall victim to it as well ..All your other points on restraining the masks are also invalid because their entire bodies are made of threads, so They can easily slip through any and all restraints that Yamato may try to use .. Not to mention they can all fly so trapping them will be harder then you think.

Utilizing the Masks Fire Power

Well the attack prevention technique does not prevent damage .. It is supposed to be used to travel undetected, If kakuzu sees Yamato merging with his wood or the field, any jutsu launched at him kills him .. so that would not be the greatest of ideas, HIs water Jutsu may be enough to counter his simply Katon mask .. But it does not do anything to hinder the wind style which would still crush yamato regardless of if water is there or not, or lightning which would pierce right through it then hitting Yamato, I do not think i even need to bring up that Wind+Fire still makes it past that jutsu and destroys Yamato ..That wood dome did not defend against any of 4 tailed naruto's attacks.. it simply shielded him from the blast wave's that came with the attacks Any of Kakuzu's jutsu destroys it or pierces through it (raiton).

I have already destroyed the wood clone .. So if Yamato were indeed to be restrained by his threads .. there would be no splitting of the earth and he would be killed , and also his wooden branch technique is obliterated by Kakuzu's fire and wind style if it ever came to that .. However with my counters in play Yamato is not pushing Kakuzu that far ..
 

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Kakuzu


Countering your "Taijutsu Points

First off i'd like to bring up that both Kakuzu and Yamato each have a 4 in the Databook. Meaning their taijutsu skills are pretty much on par, However Kakuzu has 2 factors that would give him the edge if they were to go up in a taijutsu fight, One would be ...Doton Domu First off this means that even if Yamato could land a hit on Kakuzu he would only hurt himself badly and his reaction time has already been shown to be above average (yes he used Domu here, it may not look it but the Data book refers to it as using Domu) so reacting to a hit from Yamato should be no big feat, not only does it up his Defensive capabilities but it gives His offensive taijutsu much more destructive strength, as you can see here... With the combined skills of the Domu plus already having an equal skill in Taijutsu.. Kakuzu beats Yamato in a CQC fight every time,

The reaction feat from kakuzu in your first scan is noteworthy but nothing to brag about as he noticed the black sword already. Domu while I admit is a good defense mechanism also has noticeable flaws. While the Domu increases his attack power and defense it should be noted that his movement is quite limited as said in the databook
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Keeping this in mind he does not beat him in CQC every time. You're not taking into consideration of the mukoton versatility which would restrain kakuzu due to his lack of mobility due to the domu where he would be in a predicament like this
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The same thing will happen to Kakuzu as it did to Obito, Just look at the exclamation point on Obitos face because he couldnt react to the mukoton. Kakuzu will fall victim to this as well since his domu also slows his mobility down, once he is restrained Kakuzu will effortlessly fall into Yamato hole he can instantly create by tunneling underground( )( )

Kakuzu Getting Trapped?
So you think Kakuzu would just simply be defeated by such a mere trapping strategy? You are mistaken my man, not only was Kakuzu able to react and avoid SHADOWS meaning he should be able to avoid slower wood erupting from the ground but he can also pull a similar method that Kisame did with his larger trap .. and simply harden his fist and break his hand free and then quickly free his other parts .. As its already been shown to break iron , Wood is not stopping it also you think yamato can simply glide away from Kakuzu's threads? When the speed of the threads was so great a Sharingan user could not see them coming No way Yamato is creating all that wood and then gliding away in time,

This is a totally different sort of trap. First off you neglect the fact that the shadows can only stretch to a certain extent, that isnt the case here. I honestly don't see why your giving kakuzu kisame feats.. not too mention kakuzu's chakra will be suppressed just like kisames so kakuzu being able to harden his fist is highly unlikely considering the fact that he needs chakra and it will suppressed..

Regarding threads catching a sharigan kakashi you have to keep in mind that he was already protecting choji and shino which also made him vulnerable.

The wood clone is a fairly obvious process, and a slower one then the usual clone techniques .. Seeing as we are on a field Yamato will have no place to hide and conceal his clone creation, He need simply use Searing migraine and both of them will be engulfed (6) - (7) It obviously rips apart wood, so at the very least the clone would be obliterated yamato may also fall victim to it as well ..All your other points on restraining the masks are also invalid because their entire bodies are made of threads, so They can easily slip through any and all restraints that Yamato may try to use .. Not to mention they can all fly so trapping them will be harder then you think.

Wrong. Obviously you didn't take into account of Yamatos ability which allows him to merge within the environment! So as you can see your wrong when you say yamato has no place to hide and conceal his clone creation when the clone itself can simply merge into the environment.

He need simply use Searing migraine and both of them will be engulfed - It obviously rips apart wood, so at the very least the clone would be obliterated yamato may also fall victim to it as well

Yea it was able to rip apart natural tree wood that isnt enhanced nor created by chakra! Yamato's mukoton has obviously shown better durability feats than a normal tree.

I honestly dont see how you came to the conclusion that the blast would catch the clones when even shikamaru & Choji & Uno were capable of reacting and evading it[ ].

Obviously you're taking into consideration of the charging time that the masks need to build up their attack which made kakashi and the rest of them capable of evading it.
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And you clearly underestimating the speed of the growth regarding his mukoton as he was capable of near instantly sprouting large portion of wood from the root to save sakura[ ]

The wood dome is very durable counter to the blast. As shown yamato can make it even larger if needed( )

The fact that kakashi came out from one of the blast barely injured and only his jacket being torn off..
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It's pretty self explanatory

Yamato has already shown the necessary reaction feats that would make him capable of evading the blast.

All your other points on restraining the masks are also invalid because their entire bodies are made of threads, so They can easily slip through any and all restraints that Yamato may try to use .. Not to mention they can all fly so trapping them will be harder then you think.

They cant slip through enclosed spaces which yamato can build with his mukoton. The masks have been shown to fly to such a extent.. While it will be bothersome it wont make it anymore difficult to catch them since they will have to come in close to if they want their blasts to have a greater catch to catch yamato.

Well the attack prevention technique does not prevent damage .. It is supposed to be used to travel undetected, If kakuzu sees Yamato merging with his wood or the field, any jutsu launched at him kills him .. so that would not be the greatest of ideas, HIs water Jutsu may be enough to counter his simply Katon mask .. But it does not do anything to hinder the wind style which would still crush yamato regardless of if water is there or not, or lightning which would pierce right through it then hitting Yamato, I do not think i even need to bring up that Wind+Fire still makes it past that jutsu and destroys Yamato ..That wood dome did not defend against any of 4 tailed naruto's attacks.. it simply shielded him from the blast wave's that came with the attacks Any of Kakuzu's jutsu destroys it or pierces through it (raiton).

How does any jutsu launched at him kill him? It seems to me you underestimating the duration of the time it takes to full merge into the ground. Straight from naruto wiki regarding the attack prevention ones of its advantages for the user is to Avoid damage. Im aware of the fact that the wood doom didnt take direct damage from 4 tails but the blast wave added by the large trees and rock crumbles proves its durability.

The wind style isnt that bothersome as i proved above kakashi came out of it with only his jacket off. The wind+fire makes it harder for the suiton to put it out but as shown by kakashi when he used suiton against the fire+wind masks it capable of holding off the fire for a bit.[ ]. Not too mention Yamato's suiton is much larger than kakashi's.

The lightning I admit will be bothersome but you neglect the fact yamato also possesses Doton which has its advantages over raiton.

I have already destroyed the wood clone .. So if Yamato were indeed to be restrained by his threads .. there would be no splitting of the earth and he would be killed , and also his wooden branch technique is obliterated by Kakuzu's fire and wind style if it ever came to that .. However with my counters in play Yamato is not pushing Kakuzu that far ..

The wood clone is not being destroyed. Not too mention yamato isnt restricted to one wood clone. He can create multiple if needed. Once again his merging abilities with the earth comes into play. Needless to say if he is being restrained he can easily fuse into the earth.

Except Yamato has been shown to create waterfalls[ ] which he can use as a extra water source to make his suiton stonger. So the fire+wind mask isnt taking care of yamato.
 

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The reaction feat from kakuzu in your first scan is noteworthy but nothing to brag about as he noticed the black sword already. Domu while I admit is a good defense mechanism also has noticeable flaws. While the Domu increases his attack power and defense it should be noted that his movement is quite limited as said in the databook
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Keeping this in mind he does not beat him in CQC every time. You're not taking into consideration of the mukoton versatility which would restrain kakuzu due to his lack of mobility due to the domu where he would be in a predicament like this
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The same thing will happen to Kakuzu as it did to Obito, Just look at the exclamation point on Obitos face because he couldnt react to the mukoton. Kakuzu will fall victim to this as well since his domu also slows his mobility down, once he is restrained Kakuzu will effortlessly fall into Yamato hole he can instantly create by tunneling underground( )( )

Yamato's wood release requires a hand seal that he must maintain , especially the ones you have listed above, and his hand sign speed is average at best so him utilizing wood in a CQC situation is highly doubtful, meanwhile Kakuzu's Hearts do not need hand signs (most of them) so while in CQC he could easily have a heart come up and hit Yamato from behind while he is distracted with Kakuzu, If his hearts are out of course which i believe they would. So this CQC nonsense is just that ..Nonsense taking on Kakuzu in CQC while he has his hearts active is suicide Seeing as his lightning jutsu needs no hand sign imputed from Kakuzu yes you are correct that Domu requires the user to not be able to move however once Yamato punches his iron skin, his hand would be injured, may even be broken giving enough time for Kakuzu to Un-do Domu and counterattack (although it does not take that long) ..Or he can simply harden the part of the body that Yamato is about to hit, As he would still be able to move freely while Defending from the blow

This is a totally different sort of trap. First off you neglect the fact that the shadows can only stretch to a certain extent, that isnt the case here. I honestly don't see why your giving kakuzu kisame feats.. not too mention kakuzu's chakra will be suppressed just like kisames so kakuzu being able to harden his fist is highly unlikely considering the fact that he needs chakra and it will suppressed..

Im not giving him Kisame's feats i was just stating that the wood trap would be broken in a similar way and showcasing how, The trap again is futile to be used on the hearts which i hope you realize now, and besides the opponent has to be incapable of fighting on, as it is a slow jutsu to utilize ..using in a battle is nothing but a waste of chakra and time ,
Shadows may only be limited but the wood has another weakness in that it can be broken, as i said i have no doubt a Domu fist can take out his wood,not to mention the move in a similar way but are much slower, and Kakuzu has already shown to avoid them once with ease as a matter of fact

Regarding threads catching a sharigan kakashi you have to keep in mind that he was already protecting choji and shino which also made him vulnerable.

Thats simply an assumption that is most likely wrong ..because as you can see by the distance between each other ..Kakashi was most likely the first to be caught


Wrong. Obviously you didn't take into account of Yamatos ability which allows him to merge within the environment! So as you can see your wrong when you say yamato has no place to hide and conceal his clone creation when the clone itself can simply merge into the environment.

First off, again you put it in an open field .. no way is Yamato merging without Kakuzu seeing, which would leave him wide open to attack? Not to mention the only thing he would be able to merge with is the ground which Kakuzu can simply rip him right out of the ground or pierce him with Lightning style which was said to pierce through rock so obviously its piercing through the amount of grass/ground that Yamato can hide in
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Yea it was able to rip apart natural tree wood that isnt enhanced nor created by chakra! Yamato's mukoton has obviously shown better durability feats than a normal tree.

I honestly dont see how you came to the conclusion that the blast would catch the clones when even shikamaru & Choji & Uno were capable of reacting and evading it[ ].

Yes but Kakuzu's katon is a fire ball that erupts into a huge burst of flame when it comes into contact with something solid
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so if the fire heart is in the air it should be no problem to directly hit the clone while it is still being made, and engulf it and Yamato in flames.
@bold- So your using THAT comparison :rolleyes: The reasons as too why they are able to dodge it , one thing is that it was used from a good 25-30 meters away due to plot, so obviously it would be easy to dodge when used right near the victim it is a hard jutsu to dodge due to its small first appearance but devastating aftereffects, so no Shika-Ino-Chouji do not get the Feat of avoiding it,

Obviously you're taking into consideration of the charging time that the masks need to build up their attack which made kakashi and the rest of them capable of evading it.
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His jutsu really do not take that long to charge, this one took one panel, and his wind style was able to charge and attack before Kakshi and Hidan even started falling down-wards from his jump, also took one panel

And you clearly underestimating the speed of the growth regarding his mukoton as he was capable of near instantly sprouting large portion of wood from the root to save sakura[ ]

Ive already proved That Kakuzu avoided Yamato's wood with ease so its speed is clearly not that great, and actually im fairly certain Yamato failed to even use his wood in time as she fell anyways

The wood dome is very durable counter to the blast. As shown yamato can make it even larger if needed( )

Umm not sure what that scan was supposed to prove, however just because something is larger does not change anything, its durability would remain the same and it would still be broken through by the methods i stated in my last post

The fact that kakashi came out from one of the blast barely injured and only his jacket being torn off..
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It's pretty self explanatory

Not really His pre-cog allowed him too see it coming so he was able to get out before the blast even was initiated, as Kakuzu states and since Yamato does not have pre-cog he is indeed getting hit with the blast

Yamato has already shown the necessary reaction feats that would make him capable of evading the blast.
Oh and where are they?


They cant slip through enclosed spaces which yamato can build with his mukoton. The masks have been shown to fly to such a extent.. While it will be bothersome it wont make it anymore difficult to catch them since they will have to come in close to if they want their blasts to have a greater catch to catch yamato.
Well seeing as Yamato has not shown to keep up 3 different prisons one of the other masks would simply break out the one that is caught, not to mention they really do not need to come close to attack Yamato especially the wind mask which can stay in the air at all times and lightnign mask which range and speed makes it hard to dodge from anywhere, and the wood he would use to defend against it would simply be broken through


How does any jutsu launched at him kill him? It seems to me you underestimating the duration of the time it takes to full merge into the ground. Straight from naruto wiki regarding the attack prevention ones of its advantages for the user is to Avoid damage. Im aware of the fact that the wood doom didnt take direct damage from 4 tails but the blast wave added by the large trees and rock crumbles proves its durability.

The wind style isnt that bothersome as i proved above kakashi came out of it with only his jacket off. The wind+fire makes it harder for the suiton to put it out but as shown by kakashi when he used suiton against the fire+wind masks it capable of holding off the fire for a bit.[ ]. Not too mention Yamato's suiton is much larger than kakashi's.

Again i proved why Kakashi did in fact come out un-scathed, and again just because something is bigger does not make it more durable, and besides Kakashi was still left wide open from an attack by kakuzu when using his suiton as would Yamato as well

The lightning I admit will be bothersome but you neglect the fact yamato also possesses Doton which has its advantages over raiton.

Um bro ..Raiton>Doton actually hence Raikiri was able to pierce through So if he uses an earth defense he gets impaled regardless


The wood clone is not being destroyed. Not too mention yamato isnt restricted to one wood clone. He can create multiple if needed. Once again his merging abilities with the earth comes into play. Needless to say if he is being restrained he can easily fuse into the earth.

where he then gets killed by Kakuzu's raiton so fusing into the earth is simply cornering himself

Except Yamato has been shown to create waterfalls[ ] which he can use as a extra water source to make his suiton stonger. So the fire+wind mask isnt taking care of yamato.

^Except that took a great strain on his body and takes a long time (3 whole pages) not that it matters because just because you add a source does not mean it gets more powerful? its still water which the Fire+Wind Evaporates and burns through
 
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