Yamamoto's Bankai Predictions.
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Migualon J.J.
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a rasenshuriken kind of thing..."the flames are gone" is what Bach said.
my opinion: the flames disperse and attack from within thus rendering you as a walking soup xd
my opinion: the flames disperse and attack from within thus rendering you as a walking soup xd
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I think it's all the power of his zampakto compressed into his sword, so basically ichigo-esque bankai.
Most likely it's nothing like Ichigo's, who in my opinion has one of the lamest Bankai's in the story anyway... Maybe I'm more fond of flashy big Bankai's. I'm hoping something big and flashy! One thing is for sure, it's gonna do a whole lot of damage.
Matter of opinion having a big bankai means nothing look at Renji's his is fairly useless in battle in power wise same as Ikkaku or the Dog captain.
Ichigo has one of the best Bankai's compression it reduces size for speed and power which in battle I'm pretty sure you would want.
Well, Lets see: (assuming that is like ichigo's bankai, compressing power)
-Ichigo Bankai --> Makes him, imo the fastest guy in the bleach universe, or so have been stated many times.
-Yamamoto --> Make him the most powerfull (even if he may be already) guy in the bleach universe?
-Ichigo Bankai --> Makes him, imo the fastest guy in the bleach universe, or so have been stated many times.
-Yamamoto --> Make him the most powerfull (even if he may be already) guy in the bleach universe?
That has never been stated.
It's only been stated that his Bankai translates his reiatsu into speed. There has never been any instance where anyone has stated that he's the fastest. Need I remind you that he had his Bankai active for the entire Hueco Mundo/Karakura War Arc and every one of his opponents were able to keep up with him.
Ichigo's Bankai is the most useless as far as I'm concerned.
Fair point Ichigo isn't the fastest I can even acknowledge that but it's not useless. There where plenty of Shinigami who used Bankai and where still matched by Arrancar it's just Ichigo's opponents where difficult Grimmjow and Ulquiorra are opponents any Shinigami would of struggled against.
But if you say Ichigo's Bankai is the most useless...well that's just your opinion and I can respect that but I just think it's a little unfair when there are far more useless Bankai like Ikkaku's which takes time to get started or Renji's who's Bankai was defeated the moment it made an appearance and not to be technical but Renji was beaten almost always when he used Bankai.
Just saying...
So, going so fast that he looked like making clones of himself isn't the fastest? Being faster than Byakuya, isnt trully fast? Reacting properly, and not being damaged by the fastest zanpakuto (Gin) isnt really fast? Only 2 faster characters i can see are Kunoichi, (which we can not really compare) and 2nd resurection Ulquiorra, all of the rest, was just plot to not be "easy" for ichigo the hueco mundo arc.
Fair enough. I guess it's not useless, but the thing I was getting at is that he doesn't know how to fight without his Bankai - this is a huge drawback. A Bankai is suppose to be a Shinigami's last resort, no? Yet, Ichigo blasts off every single battle with it. He doesn't even fight using his Shikai which is why he hasn't even mastered Zangetsu yet. He has what, one attack? His precious Getsuga Tensho? Unlike Hollow Ichigo, Ichigo doesn't know how to use Zangetsu to it's fullest. His Bankai is supposed to give him a huge burst in speed but ever since the Hueco Mundo arc everyone he's fought is easily able to match him.
Kubo has filled Bleach with contradictions and I think Ichigo's Bankai is one of the bigger ones. When he first fought Byakuya he was overwhelming him with speed. But look at Ichigo vs Grimmjow and then Byakuya vs Zommari. Grimmjow had no problem keeping up with Ichigo even in his base form. Then, Zommari, who is supposed to be the fastest Espada (faster than Grimmjow), was barely able to top Byakuya.
For Renji, his Bankai isn't a compressed blade like Ichigo's. On the contrary, it's a gigantic...thing. Because of this it can be argued that Renji requires more training to be able to use his huge Bankai efficiently. The larger a Bankai is the harder it is to control, and in order to fight at 100% you need to be able to control it as if it were an extension of your own body. Basically, Renji just hasn't trained enough with his Bankai. Ichigo's fortunate that his Bankai is a normal-sized katana because you don't need much training to use that.
-Ichigo never made clones. After-images aren't the same as full fledged clones like Zommari was able to make. Huge difference.
-Ichigo is not faster than Byakuya.
-Gin wasn't even trying to kill him. In case you haven't noticed Gin was a good guy. He knew Ichigo would be the one to defeat Aizen in the end. Gin was, for all intents and purposes, helping Ichigo. He was pushing Ichigo and putting him down so that he would pick himself back up and find his resolve again. Something Ichigo desperately needed.
You're going to blame it on plot? Is that the best you got?
Whether it's because of the plot or not it doesn't change the fact that his Bankai is rendered null and is far from making Ichigo the fastest in the Bleach world...
And who the heck is Kunoichi? There are no ninjas in Bleach. I assume you mean Yoruichi?
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-Ichigo never made clones. After-images aren't the same as full fledged clones like Zommari was able to make. Huge difference.
Well, it appears that saying "Look like he made clones" is the same as saying "he made clones", sorry if you dont understand what i mean, ill explain myself: "He was fast travelling from one site to another make images of himself" , a big number of them, btw
-Ichigo is not faster than Byakuya.
He is, or at least, he was in his figth against him. Do you remember the moment ichigo "suddenly dissappeared" and was standing with the sword in byuakya neck, without him even noticing what was happening. I'd say that's for ichigo faster than byuakya.
-Gin wasn't even trying to kill him. In case you haven't noticed Gin was a good guy. He knew Ichigo would be the one to defeat Aizen in the end. Gin was, for all intents and purposes, helping Ichigo. He was pushing Ichigo and putting him down so that he would pick himself back up and find his resolve again. Something Ichigo desperately needed.
Even if he didnt want to kill him, he still used his fast bankai to push him to the limit, defending against the fastest bankai...
You're going to blame it on plot? Is that the best you got?
Of course. What history/tale/manga/whatever... is interesting if the main character is superpowerfull and can kill anybody with ease, and no one is a challenge for him? No one. That's why you have to make the character a "little weak", or to look like that, so he can overpower his enemies in the last moment.
Whether it's because of the plot or not it doesn't change the fact that his Bankai is rendered null and is far from making Ichigo the fastest in the Bleach world...
Well, im gonna give you that, (not the not being the fastest) the fact that the ichigo's bankai is pretty useless sometimes, or it looks like that.
And who the heck is Kunoichi? There are no ninjas in Bleach. I assume you mean Yoruichi?
Well, my bad, i though she was being called kunoichi at the start, but is yourichi, sorry. Im bad remembering names (not faces, just names)
Well, it appears that saying "Look like he made clones" is the same as saying "he made clones", sorry if you dont understand what i mean, ill explain myself: "He was fast travelling from one site to another make images of himself" , a big number of them, btw
-Ichigo is not faster than Byakuya.
He is, or at least, he was in his figth against him. Do you remember the moment ichigo "suddenly dissappeared" and was standing with the sword in byuakya neck, without him even noticing what was happening. I'd say that's for ichigo faster than byuakya.
-Gin wasn't even trying to kill him. In case you haven't noticed Gin was a good guy. He knew Ichigo would be the one to defeat Aizen in the end. Gin was, for all intents and purposes, helping Ichigo. He was pushing Ichigo and putting him down so that he would pick himself back up and find his resolve again. Something Ichigo desperately needed.
Even if he didnt want to kill him, he still used his fast bankai to push him to the limit, defending against the fastest bankai...
You're going to blame it on plot? Is that the best you got?
Of course. What history/tale/manga/whatever... is interesting if the main character is superpowerfull and can kill anybody with ease, and no one is a challenge for him? No one. That's why you have to make the character a "little weak", or to look like that, so he can overpower his enemies in the last moment.
Whether it's because of the plot or not it doesn't change the fact that his Bankai is rendered null and is far from making Ichigo the fastest in the Bleach world...
Well, im gonna give you that, (not the not being the fastest) the fact that the ichigo's bankai is pretty useless sometimes, or it looks like that.
And who the heck is Kunoichi? There are no ninjas in Bleach. I assume you mean Yoruichi?
Well, my bad, i though she was being called kunoichi at the start, but is yourichi, sorry. Im bad remembering names (not faces, just names)
