[Discussion] Yamamoto gauntlet

[Killuaa]

Okay, I'm not very good at this gauntlet thing, so you can correct me if I mess it up

1. Vs. Shunsui and Ukitake
2. Vs. Human Komamura, Byakuya, Soi Fon and Hitsugaya
3. Vs. All Current Vice Captains and 0-4 Espadas
4. Vs. Kenpachi, Unohana and Kurotsuchi
5. Vs. Yoruichi, Urahara and Isshin
6. Vs Dangai Ichigo and Bazz B
7. Vs. Cocoon Aizen and Ichimaru
8. Vs. Butterfly Aizen

- Yamamoto can only use his Bankai on 6, 7 and 8.
- Yoruichi gets to have her gauntlets.
- Unohana can only heal her teammates 5x
- Yamamoto doesn't have any intel on any of them.
- Human Komamura can only fight for 15 minutes.

Restrictions: Stealing Yamamoto's Zanpakuto, Featless Bankais and Prep Time

 

[Killuaa]

Also, Byakuya still has his Bankai here.

 

[The Masked Sage]

zanka no tachi GG

 

[Killuaa]

zanka no tachi GG

No bankai for Yamamoto in 1-5.

 

[Forbidden Tale]

1. Vs. Shunsui and Ukitake

Yamamoto in shikai is already way good deal more powerful than Shikai Aizen (he actually can be even good deal more powerful than Bankai AIzen). Shikai Kyoraku and Shikai Ukitake even together are not strong as Shikai Aizen. Yamamoto take this easily.

2. Vs. Human Komamura, Byakuya, Soi Fon and Hitsugaya

Since Byakuya has his bankai here, I suppose we are talking about pre RR Byakuya. Yamamoto was able to beat three SR with unnamed shikai technique, these SRs should already be morepowerful than three captains. Human Komamura would be bigger problem, but considering Yamamoto's power, he will be taken down, even before 15 minutes run out.

3. Vs. All Current Vice Captains and 0-4 Espadas

Just shikai Yama?
Current VC (Nanao, Okikiba, Omeada, Isane, Hinamori, RR Renji, RR Rukia, Tetsuzaemon, Shikai Hisagi, Rangiku, Nemu) and Espadas (Ulq, Starrk, Yammy, Barragan, Tier).

Power level wise, Shikai Aizen's power should already surpass those of all Espadas together. Yamamoto is good deal stronger than Shikai Yamamoto. Also, Yamamoto could use Ennetsu Jigoku and destroy area much greater than Karakura Town. So, I do think that he will win this as well, this is his hardest match until know.

4. Vs. Kenpachi, Unohana and Kurotsuchi

He actually could lose this. It depends will Ennetsu Jigoku work here and would he be able to cast it.

5. Vs. Yoruichi, Urahara and Isshin

I do think that Shikai Yamamoto (if not even Base Yamamoto) is stronger than Form of Aizen, Urahara and co fought. So, Yama win this easily.

6. Vs Dangai Ichigo and Bazz B
7. Vs. Cocoon Aizen and Ichimaru
8. Vs. Butterfly Aizen

Bankai? Yamamoto wins. 15.000.000, West, Destroying whole world...

 

[jiraiya lives]

Give me a minute to come up with the outcome

 

[SoulKiller]

Yamamoto wins from 1 to 5 easily and from 6 to 8 the moment yamamoto spits out the word bankai then its gg.

 

[Killuaa]

I doubt he can low diff Butterfly Aizen or Dangao Ichigo though. Bazz B can weaken his flames even by just the tidbit, and I think it can still make a difference if Bazz B isn't attacked beforehand.

 

[Shiroyasha]

1. Vs. Shunsui and Ukitake

Yamamoto in shikai is already way good deal more powerful than Shikai Aizen (he actually can be even good deal more powerful than Bankai AIzen). Shikai Kyoraku and Shikai Ukitake even together are not strong as Shikai Aizen. Yamamoto take this easily.

2. Vs. Human Komamura, Byakuya, Soi Fon and Hitsugaya

Since Byakuya has his bankai here, I suppose we are talking about pre RR Byakuya. Yamamoto was able to beat three SR with unnamed shikai technique, these SRs should already be morepowerful than three captains. Human Komamura would be bigger problem, but considering Yamamoto's power, he will be taken down, even before 15 minutes run out.

3. Vs. All Current Vice Captains and 0-4 Espadas

Just shikai Yama?
Current VC (Nanao, Okikiba, Omeada, Isane, Hinamori, RR Renji, RR Rukia, Tetsuzaemon, Shikai Hisagi, Rangiku, Nemu) and Espadas (Ulq, Starrk, Yammy, Barragan, Tier).

Power level wise, Shikai Aizen's power should already surpass those of all Espadas together. Yamamoto is good deal stronger than Shikai Yamamoto. Also, Yamamoto could use Ennetsu Jigoku and destroy area much greater than Karakura Town. So, I do think that he will win this as well, this is his hardest match until know.

4. Vs. Kenpachi, Unohana and Kurotsuchi

He actually could lose this. It depends will Ennetsu Jigoku work here and would he be able to cast it.

5. Vs. Yoruichi, Urahara and Isshin

I do think that Shikai Yamamoto (if not even Base Yamamoto) is stronger than Form of Aizen, Urahara and co fought. So, Yama win this easily.

6. Vs Dangai Ichigo and Bazz B
7. Vs. Cocoon Aizen and Ichimaru
8. Vs. Butterfly Aizen

Bankai? Yamamoto wins. 15.000.000, West, Destroying whole world...

He just can't beat Dangai Ichigo. The guy is a freaking transcendent.. Yama is OP. But Dangai Ichigo defines OP

 

[Forbidden Tale]

He just can't beat Dangai Ichigo. The guy is a freaking transcendent.. Yama is OP. But Dangai Ichigo defines OP

Transcedent does not make someone more powerful than non transcedent. Aizen called Ichigo transcedent back in the FKT arc, but at that time not just that Ichigo wasn't more powerful than Yamamoto, he wasn't more powerful than a lot weaker characters than Yamamoto.

Transcedent was never fully explained and Aizen's stataments about transcedents are pretty vague.

 

[Shiroyasha]

Transcedent does not make someone more powerful than non transcedent. Aizen called Ichigo transcedent back in the FKT arc, but at that time not just that Ichigo wasn't more powerful than Yamamoto, he wasn't more powerful than a lot weaker characters than Yamamoto.

Transcedent was never fully explained and Aizen's stataments about transcedents are pretty vague.

Yes, it really does. Aizen and Ichigo were on a whole different level. They were so powerful, that normal people couldn't even feel teir Reiatsu, unless they lowered it down to their level of awareness. Trust me, he was much more powerful than Yama. And even though Aizen was a transcendent, Ichigo completely surpassed him. Even after Aizen turned into his monster form, he still couldn't feel anything from Ichigo.
ZnT is OP as ****! But Just look at Dangai Ichigo. Throughout the fight, did you even see him get surprised by Aizen's power? Just look at the part when Aizen cast the kido on him. Ichigo didn't even Blink.. He stopped Aizen's freaking attack with one hand, effortlessly. Aizen was so scared that he almost shit his pants. You know what? Here's a video :

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Watch it and you'll understand. I'm not trying to start a fight with you, i just disagree with what you said.

 

[Forbidden Tale]

Yes, it really does. Aizen and Ichigo were on a whole different level. They were so powerful, that normal people couldn't even feel teir Reiatsu, unless they lowered it down to their level of awareness. Trust me, he was much more powerful than Yama. And even though Aizen was a transcendent, Ichigo completely surpassed him. Even after Aizen turned into his monster form, he still couldn't feel anything from Ichigo.
ZnT is OP as ****! But Just look at Dangai Ichigo. Throughout the fight, did you even see him get surprised by Aizen's power? Just look at the part when Aizen cast the kido on him. Ichigo didn't even Blink.. He stopped Aizen's freaking attack with one hand, effortlessly. Aizen was so scared that he almost shit his pants. You know what? Here's a video :

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Watch it and you'll understand. I'm not trying to start a fight with you, i just disagree with what you said.

Even though that was the case, Gin was not affraid of that 'godly' reiatsu, he didn't even bother for that, his still wanted to stop KS. And on top of that, the 'transcedent/godly' reiatsu that Aizen posses, weren't able to negate Gin's ability, like he did to Sui Feng.

Reiatsu is present in all object, and attacks. Royd wasn't able to feel reiatsu from Yama's flames (I suppose this make Yama transcedent?). Zaraki's reitasu also can't be feelt. Does that mean that Zaraki is Hogyoku Aizen level? Of course not.

As I said transcedent reiatsu > all type of reiatsu, still has to be proven, but as I said Ichigo was transcedent even before Dangai training, but still he wasn't strong as numeros non transcedent characters.

And also as I said, Aizen's stataments about transcedental being are vague:
-First he call himself highest begin.
-Than Ichigo appear and prove him wrong.
-Than he transform again, and again say that he is highest.
-Than Ichigo use Mugetsu and again prove him wrong.
-Than he said that Hogyoku feel like he don't need zanpakuto anymore and that he is one only one who stand.
-This time Urahara come and say that isn't not the case, and that Hogyoku don't accept him as his master anymore, which again prove Aizen wrong.

Yamamoto also was not surprised by Aizen's power. True at that time Aizen didn't transform, but there is no proof that Yamamoto would be surprised. There is also no proof that Yamamoto would be affected by that kido and that Aizen wouldn't shit his pants in front of Bankai Yamamoto.

Fair enough, if you disagree. I'm not forcing you to believe in this, either way I respect your views.