[Discussion] Yakuma's 18 battle gods

[milkydean]

So few information about this magic
It seems to be a lost magic, since Mavis was shocked that minerva possessed the magic
it seems to summon beasts that are typically known as battle gods
Normal people who wants to possess this magic needs to give some kind of sacrifice to summon these gods
There are in total 18 battle gods
Also people from yakuma clan have affliation to these gods and summon them without any need of sacrifices, ex: minerva

This actually feels a better addition to the set of magic, I feel most battle gods won't be relevant and will be taken out as the latest one, but few battle gods will be stronger
I believe one of the gods of ishval will be in possession of this magic, maybe he can summon a stronger god or multiple gods

 

[Anime Godd]

So few information about this magic
It seems to be a lost magic, since Mavis was shocked that minerva possessed the magic
it seems to summon beasts that are typically known as battle gods
Normal people who wants to possess this magic needs to give some kind of sacrifice to summon these gods
There are in total 18 battle gods
Also people from yakuma clan have affliation to these gods and summon them without any need of sacrifices, ex: minerva

This actually feels a better addition to the set of magic, I feel most battle gods won't be relevant and will be taken out as the latest one, but few battle gods will be stronger
I believe one of the gods of ishval will be in possession of this magic, maybe he can summon a stronger god or multiple gods

Well you have to remember this was probably one of the weaker ones since it was summoned by a fodder and he only sacrificed his face so he gets an ass god

 

[Fairytard]

I do not have high hopes for any antagonists nor any of the Battle "Gods" since Yakuma was one shotted and shitted on. That just tells you that the rest wont amount to anything. Fairy Tail will one shot them all easily.

The fact That Yakuma is related to Minerva's magic just shows how Hiro has wasted her potential as a mage. Her magic could have been better. Only if Hiro was a good writer and was creative. Imagine how amazing fairy tail would be in someone else's hands.

 

[milkydean]

I do not have high hopes for any antagonists nor any of the Battle "Gods" since Yakuma was one shotted and shitted on. That just tells you that the rest wont amount to anything. Fairy Tail will one shot them all easily.

The fact That Yakuma is related to Minerva's magic just shows how Hiro has wasted her potential as a mage. Her magic could have been better. Only if Hiro was a good writer and was creative. Imagine how amazing fairy tail would be in someone else's hands.

*laughs* this post just shows how pitiful you and your knowledge about ft is
Yakuma was never defeated, yakuma isn't even a person, its a clan
Minerva is member of yakuma clan just like kushina of uzumaki clan or karin from uzumaki, they possess this beasts and can summon them
And you don't need all the members of clan to be a strong, a few handful of strong guys can make a clan stronger, it was the same in naruto too, only tobirama and hashirama were strong, from uchiha, only 5-6 uchihas are worth mentioning, and same goes for hyuugas, uzumakis, sarutobis too

 

[Fairytard]

*laughs* this post just shows how pitiful you and your knowledge about ft is
Yakuma was never defeated, yakuma isn't even a person, its a clan
Minerva is member of yakuma clan just like kushina of uzumaki clan or karin from uzumaki, they possess this beasts and can summon them
And you don't need all the members of clan to be a strong, a few handful of strong guys can make a clan stronger, it was the same in naruto too, only tobirama and hashirama were strong, from uchiha, only 5-6 uchihas are worth mentioning, and same goes for hyuugas, uzumakis, sarutobis too

Minerva Orlando is her full name. She is not from that clan. She possesses magic related to the Gods of War through her territory magic. I am not suprised you don't know this. Fairy Tail fans are not the brightest. You dont have to bring up Naruto, an actually good manga. I understand your point that makes no point in relation to what you were trying to say.

 

[Kai NB]

Anyone else feel the Battle Gods are the things that God Slayers are meant to slay?

 

[Relostar Devil]

Anyone else feel the Battle Gods are the things that God Slayers are meant to slay?

Ya I agree with you these gods should be defeated by god slayers only not some dragon slayers.

 

[milkydean]

Minerva Orlando is her full name. She is not from that clan. She possesses magic related to the Gods of War through her territory magic. I am not suprised you don't know this. Fairy Tail fans are not the brightest. You dont have to bring up Naruto, an actually good manga. I understand your point that makes no point in relation to what you were trying to say.

Once again, lol
It was said by hiro himself in the volume afterwords that minerva belongs to yakuma clan, and his dad himself said minerva is nothing but a tool to keep the clan alive, u made urself look like an idiot, well u r one so…

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

"Naruto is an actually good manga" ? Dude u seriously think so.

It is, it's one of the best. You're on this site using a Naruto avatar for a reason.

 

[milkydean]

Ya I agree with you these gods should be defeated by god slayers only not some dragon slayers.

Demons were defeated by mages, silver froze A dragon, so I don't see why the gods should be Restricted to god slayers
And he used kings flame to defeat the god, and igneel is the strongest being after acno and maybe zeref

 

[Memento Mori]

Demons were defeated by mages, silver froze A dragon, so I don't see why the gods should be Restricted to god slayers
And he used kings flame to defeat the god, and igneel is the strongest being after acno and maybe zeref

Anyone know about Sanni Yakuma?.There are 18 types of them just like Yakuma 18 War Gods.Time to theories.Xd

 

[leezagboola]

I wish it was a team effort not just natsu one shots the yakuma god. Honestly the only antagonist i will expect anything from now is just zeref and acnologia, unless they bring out a random new group and people like the demons and mard geer who react differently to magic.
Id like to see the people from edolas again, i feel that was such a big thing but now they are completely forgotten.
I wonder if we get to see all 18 battle gods but tbh unless they get exponentially stronger, they may aswell not bother and move straight onto the final boss.
I hope this doesnt become like dragon ball z with just the few main characters so over powered all the other secondary characters have to be written out because they are of no use anymore like tien and yamcha were, but i feel its already too late.

 

[Relostar Devil]

It is, it's one of the best. You're on this site using a Naruto avatar for a reason.

That was when i started watching Naruto shonnen. But after the war started , even u should admit that it became the shittiest manga ever.

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

That was when i started watching Naruto shonnen. But after the war started , even u should admit that it became the shittiest manga ever.

Clearly an exaggeration. The war was good but could have been better. There were good battles, many great moments, great character development for multiple character most notibly Naruto, Sasuke,and Madara.

I suggest Reading it all at once.It's alot better than reading weekly.

 

[Caliburn]

So few information about this magic
It seems to be a lost magic, since Mavis was shocked that minerva possessed the magic
it seems to summon beasts that are typically known as battle gods
Normal people who wants to possess this magic needs to give some kind of sacrifice to summon these gods
There are in total 18 battle gods
Also people from yakuma clan have affliation to these gods and summon them without any need of sacrifices, ex: minerva

This actually feels a better addition to the set of magic, I feel most battle gods won't be relevant and will be taken out as the latest one, but few battle gods will be stronger
I believe one of the gods of ishval will be in possession of this magic, maybe he can summon a stronger god or multiple gods

*laughs* this post just shows how pitiful you and your knowledge about ft is
Yakuma was never defeated, yakuma isn't even a person, its a clan
Minerva is member of yakuma clan just like kushina of uzumaki clan or karin from uzumaki, they possess this beasts and can summon them
And you don't need all the members of clan to be a strong, a few handful of strong guys can make a clan stronger, it was the same in naruto too, only tobirama and hashirama were strong, from uchiha, only 5-6 uchihas are worth mentioning, and same goes for hyuugas, uzumakis, sarutobis too

I think you are focusing way too much on how the concept of a 'clan' is used in Naruto. I have been trying to find where you got this from and the only thing I can find are some footnotes on FT wikia referring to Hiro's Q&A in volume 41, however I can't find anywhere a direct proper translation, only the indirect translations from the footnotes and those vary. I have seen both the word 'clan' and 'race' and that makes hell of a lot of difference as a race is not the same thing as a clan. So far the concept of a clan is also alien to the Fairy Tail verse, but on the other hand many different races have been introduced: humans, Exceed, dragons, demons of Garuna Island etc. and many of them use magic.

Considering they had a completely different speech, I think race is more likely to be correct rather than clan and even in the latter case I think the comparison with Naruto clans is not correct and that a comparison with the ancient Nirvit tribe who created the Nirvana magic is far more appropriate and suitable.

Not to mention all translations had in common that they were extinct, whether it be clan or race, meaning by default Minerva was never part of them. Most likely she simply somehow found and consequently mastered the magic, which also explains the differences between Minerva and Avatar's master. Many characters have found ancient, powerful magic and learned to use it, so it's easily possible that was the case here too.

I think you can scratch all that stuff about sacrifice too, I think it simply has to do with the magic input needed to utilize each spell or that each god requires different set-ups to be summoned.

Minerva Orlando is her full name. She is not from that clan. She possesses magic related to the Gods of War through her territory magic. I am not suprised you don't know this. Fairy Tail fans are not the brightest. You dont have to bring up Naruto, an actually good manga. I understand your point that makes no point in relation to what you were trying to say.

Says the guy who can't even understand the simple notion of what is good and bad/what you like and hate is completely personal and subjective and who for some reason found it necessary to make an obvious alt specifically to foulmouth the series, its creator and its fans. Certainly 'bright'.

 

[Memento Mori]

I think you are focusing way too much on how the concept of a 'clan' is used in Naruto. I have been trying to find where you got this from and the only thing I can find are some footnotes on FT wikia referring to Hiro's Q&A in volume 41, however I can't find anywhere a direct proper translation, only the indirect translations from the footnotes and those vary. I have seen both the word 'clan' and 'race' and that makes hell of a lot of difference as a race is not the same thing as a clan. So far the concept of a clan is also alien to the Fairy Tail verse, but on the other hand many different races have been introduced: humans, Exceed, dragons, demons of Garuna Island etc. and many of them use magic.

Considering they had a completely different speech, I think race is more likely to be correct rather than clan and even in the latter case I think the comparison with Naruto clans is not correct and that a comparison with the ancient Nirvit tribe who created the Nirvana magic is far more appropriate and suitable.

Not to mention all translations had in common that they were extinct, whether it be clan or race, meaning by default Minerva was never part of them. Most likely she simply somehow found and consequently mastered the magic, which also explains the differences between Minerva and Avatar's master. Many characters have found ancient, powerful magic and learned to use it, so it's easily possible that was the case here too.

I think you can scratch all that stuff about sacrifice too, I think it simply has to do with the magic input needed to utilize each spell or that each god requires different set-ups to be summoned.



Says the guy who can't even understand the simple notion of what is good and bad/what you like and hate is completely personal and subjective and who for some reason found it necessary to make an obvious alt specifically to foulmouth the series, its creator and its fans. Certainly 'bright'.

Yes.I am reading and searching all over the volume book 41.It didn't mentioned anywhere about "Yakuma" whether it is a clan or tribe or race or whatever it is.

There is no mention of "Yakuma" in afterwords section of Vol.41 either.>>>

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I checked up the "explain the mysteries of FT" Section in the Volume book 41.All it is said about is......Minerva using the language of Yakuma.

>>>>There were eighteen different types of magic handed down through the Yakuma called "Eighteen Battle Gods of Yakuma."This was one of them.

That is all it said.I too doubt Yakuma is clan/race/tribe.I might be looking at too much "through the Yakuma".....It sounded like to me Yakuma is a person.

Well leaving that aside...

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I think Mashima used Sanni Yakuma as a reference for Eighteen Battle Gods.There is not much of any similarities but their appearances do so far.The god we have seen in this chapter might be Dukiniya....I will look into this concept more deeply later.

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[milkydean]

I don't remember the forum, but I am pretty certain that I have read it that it was either a tribe or a clan
Bcoz, a fan asked mashima, what was the weird language minerva uses while fighting
Mashima said that it was a language that belonged to yakuma tribe/ clan and minerva too is a member and possess few of their magic
I can't make sure whether it was clan or tribe
I said it was a clan bcoz, minerva's father when fighting against sting and rogue said that she was nothing but a mere tool to make the clan go forward
Also there is another fact that arlock needed to use some kind of sacrifice in order to summon the god, while minerva could do it with just hand signs
Its mostly bcoz she belongs to the tribe or clan

 

[Memento Mori]

I don't remember the forum, but I am pretty certain that I have read it that it was either a tribe or a clan
Bcoz, a fan asked mashima, what was the weird language minerva uses while fighting
Mashima said that it was a language that belonged to yakuma tribe/ clan and minerva too is a member and possess few of their magic
I can't make sure whether it was clan or tribe
I said it was a clan bcoz, minerva's father when fighting against sting and rogue said that she was nothing but a mere tool to make the clan go forward
Also there is another fact that arlock needed to use some kind of sacrifice in order to summon the god, while minerva could do it with just hand signs
Its mostly bcoz she belongs to the tribe or clan

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It was never stated in the manga what is Yakuma and its origins.Mashima touched this subject again.There is more to come.We will know about it's origins in the future.

Did Mashima said Yakuma is a tribe in twitter?.If he did do you have link?.I don't remember mashima saying such a thing in twitter but again I might have missed it.Anyway I have asked thefairy the same question.She has the access to the Kodanshajapan issues.If there is any she will clarify it when she comes to online.

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[milkydean]

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It was never stated in the manga what is Yakuma and its origins.Mashima touched this subject again.There is more to come.We will know about it's origins in the future.

Did Mashima said Yakuma is a tribe in twitter?.If he did do you have link?.I don't remember mashima saying such a thing in twitter but again I might have missed it.Anyway I have asked thefairy the same question.She has the access to the Kodanshajapan issues.If there is any she will clarify it when she comes to online.

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Are those official translations? If yes then I think bloodline can also mean clan
Anyways like you said, this topic hasn't been touched in the manga yet, so if I say anything more, it would nothing more but specalution
I think it was in q & a section of the manga volume not in twitter
I was just curious since I really liked the idea of having battle gods and liked minerva's spatial magic so I made the thread

Also is that the latest tweet from mashima?
I am wondering what the development is ?

 

[Memento Mori]

Are those official translations? If yes then I think bloodline can also mean clan
Anyways like you said, this topic hasn't been touched in the manga yet, so if I say anything more, it would nothing more but specalution
I think it was in q & a section of the manga volume not in twitter
I was just curious since I really liked the idea of having battle gods and liked minerva's spatial magic so I made the thread

Also is that the latest tweet from mashima?
I am wondering what the development is ?

Yes.I think it is a bloodline of Jiemma's strongest lineage not about clan.There is not much of a depth currently.Mashima will clear it up in the manga or Volume books when that said chapter goes into printing.

Yes it is.
I already posted my thought in Chapter discussion thread.

Anyone else feel the Battle Gods are the things that God Slayers are meant to slay?

Maybe or maybe not.It is all speculation at this point.If it is then I want a Sky God and Lightning God for Sherry(Chelia) and Olga.