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logically, yagura isnt a perfect host

danzo says here that yagura can control bijuu but danzo says "said to have" which means he is going by what he heard -

this is more proof, kurama basically says killer bee and 8 tails are the only ones that got alone -

^^ this proves yagura isnt friends with his bijuu only killer bee and naruto are

hashirama, madara, obito and yamato can control/tame bijuu but none of them are friends with bijuu like naruto and killer bee are

yagura cant do anything with bijuu, he was being controlled probably his whole life, he cant break any genjutsu until the bijuu decides to help you break it, like naruto couldnt get out of genjutsu until now...there is no one to break yagura's genjutsu so he was controlled until he died


madara or obito has been controlling yagura from the shadows to make the world think he was a perfect host when he really isnt friends with his bijuu, he was being controlled by madara or obito, people who can control/tame bijuu...this is obviously why becoming friends with a bijuu is better than controlling it

i agree when kurama said killer bee and 8 tails are perfect host it was made clear idk how people don't understand this
 

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logically, yagura isnt a perfect host

danzo says here that yagura can control bijuu but danzo says "said to have" which means he is going by what he heard -

this is more proof, kurama basically says killer bee and 8 tails are the only ones that got alone -

^^ this proves yagura isnt friends with his bijuu only killer bee and naruto are

hashirama, madara, obito and yamato can control/tame bijuu but none of them are friends with bijuu like naruto and killer bee are

yagura cant do anything with bijuu, he was being controlled probably his whole life, he cant break any genjutsu until the bijuu decides to help you break it, like naruto couldnt get out of genjutsu until now...there is no one to break yagura's genjutsu so he was controlled until he died


madara or obito has been controlling yagura from the shadows to make the world think he was a perfect host when he really isnt friends with his bijuu, he was being controlled by madara or obito, people who can control/tame bijuu...this is obviously why becoming friends with a bijuu is better than controlling it

Naw dog.

He must be a perfect jinchuuriki:
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I agree, and for this reason is why i think yagura is a mist body experiment. Madaras experiment to control jinchuuriki and political power
 

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obito controlled six beast at once, all resealed in former host so what's the biggie probably madara did that with rinnegan, or kept them both under genjutsu? sasuke could appear before hakke fuuin and kyuubi. madara used mokuton to tie sanbi and controlled yagura through ems?
 

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obito controlled six beast at once, all resealed in former host so what's the biggie probably madara did that with rinnegan, or kept them both under genjutsu? sasuke could appear before hakke fuuin and kyuubi. madara used mokuton to tie sanbi and controlled yagura through ems?

controlling/taming bijuu like madara, obito, hashirama and yamato is not the same thing as becoming friends with the bijuu and it helps you fight

did you see madara and obito using bm mode when they were controlling kurama?

not letting your bijuu take over you like gaara in part 1 is also different from becoming friends
 

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he does not say said to have guy...yagura was a perfect jinchuriki.....sharingan gengutsu srong enough will work on perfect gins....naruto even said dnt look at itachi's eyes or its over to BEE
 

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controlling/taming bijuu like madara, obito, hashirama and yamato is not the same thing as becoming friends with the bijuu and it helps you fight

did you see madara and obito using bm mode when they were controlling kurama?

not letting your bijuu take over you like gaara in part 1 is also different from becoming friends


friends or not, i dnt think a bijuu wants to be sealed in statue...and i dnt think it will just sit there while its jin is being controlled and just ignore it
 

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What is important isn't, whether, Yagura could control the bijuu or not. It's important that Danzo knew about him. I'm certain that Danzo and Obito worked together in controlling Yagura. It seems 100 % like Danzos jutsu. He could have set KA to "follow Obitos instructions".

Last time they met, Obito said: "Long time no see, Danzo, since the Uchiha massacre?". It's likely to believe they met during or after the uchiha massacre. Danzo wanted some of the sharingans, Obitos price, was to cast KA on Yagura, allowing Obito to start his affairs in Kiri.

Also those mist shinobi that hunted Kakashi and Rin. It's likely to believe Danzo was implemented in it. Obito really disliked Danzo. This could explain it. Also hints were given that they might be something else than mist shinobi. Mist weren't taking in part in any wars etc. It's likely that Danzo took advantage of that.

It's likely that Sasuke will learn all this. He will learn that Obito was the actual cause for the entire uchiha massacre. All along. Since the kuybi attack, and working together with Danzo. Danzos job was to make Itachi do it, and then Obito would help him

ANyway just a few assumptions..
 
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he does not say said to have guy...yagura was a perfect jinchuriki.....sharingan gengutsu srong enough will work on perfect gins....naruto even said dnt look at itachi's eyes or its over to BEE

danzo said "said to have" so he was going by what he heard and like thegame said maybe danzo played a part in it

killer bee DID look into itachi's eye so what are you talking about???

friends or not, i dnt think a bijuu wants to be sealed in statue...and i dnt think it will just sit there while its jin is being controlled and just ignore it

gaara had no control over his bijuu in part 1

and 1 tailed beast didnt help gaara fight deidara and gaara got captured and killed

What is important isn't, whether, Yagura could control the bijuu or not. It's important that Danzo knew about him. I'm certain that Danzo and Obito worked together in controlling Yagura. It seems 100 % like Danzos jutsu. He could have set KA to "follow Obitos instructions".

Last time they met, Obito said: "Long time no see, Danzo, since the Uchiha massacre?". It's likely to believe they met during or after the uchiha massacre. Danzo wanted some of the sharingans, Obitos price, was to cast KA on Yagura, allowing Obito to start his affairs in Kiri.

Also those mist shinobi that hunted Kakashi and Rin. It's likely to believe Danzo was implemented in it. Obito really disliked Danzo. This could explain it. Also hints were given that they might be something else than mist shinobi. Mist weren't taking in part in any wars etc. It's likely that Danzo took advantage of that.

It's likely that Sasuke will learn all this. He will learn that Obito was the actual cause for the entire uchiha massacre. All along. Since the kuybi attack, and working together with Danzo. Danzos job was to make Itachi do it, and then Obito would help him

ANyway just a few assumptions..

i just made the thread tosay he wasnt a perfect host

i agree with the theories though
 

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What is important isn't, whether, Yagura could control the bijuu or not. It's important that Danzo knew about him. I'm certain that Danzo and Obito worked together in controlling Yagura. It seems 100 % like Danzos jutsu. He could have set KA to "follow Obitos instructions".

Last time they met, Obito said: "Long time no see, Danzo, since the Uchiha massacre?". It's likely to believe they met during or after the uchiha massacre. Danzo wanted some of the sharingans, Obitos price, was to cast KA on Yagura, allowing Obito to start his affairs in Kiri.

Also those mist shinobi that hunted Kakashi and Rin. It's likely to believe Danzo was implemented in it. Obito really disliked Danzo. This could explain it. Also hints were given that they might be something else than mist shinobi. Mist weren't taking in part in any wars etc. It's likely that Danzo took advantage of that.

It's likely that Sasuke will learn all this. He will learn that Obito was the actual cause for the entire uchiha massacre. All along. Since the kuybi attack, and working together with Danzo. Danzos job was to make Itachi do it, and then Obito would help him

ANyway just a few assumptions..

Obito and Danzo are not collaborators as they are enemies, but it is fishy Danzo knew, but then again everyone in NarutoVerse could of had that knowledge of Yaguras power, Danzo was just recapping
 

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Obito and Danzo are not collaborators as they are enemies, but it is fishy Danzo knew, but then again everyone in NarutoVerse could of had that knowledge of Yaguras power, Danzo was just recapping

danzo and obito were partners because obito said they havent seen each other since the uchiha massacre

i guess later they turned into enemies
 

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danzo and obito were partners because obito said they havent seen each other since the uchiha massacre

i guess later they turned into enemies

When was this? During sasuke vs danzo arc?
 
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