Saber doesn't really get the time to shine in Zero. Most of her fights in Zero come down to her either being surprised (ex. Lancer's case) or the fight being off-screen.
She gets plenty of time to shine in Fate route and Heaven's Feel route though. In the Visual Novel, I mean.
The entire Fate series is garbage
Take your autism somewhere else.
Fate zero is more of an ideological clash. She's weak, because her beliefs and convictions are weak compared to Gilgamesh and Rider
He's talking about battle, not ideological clash. Saber isn't really that strong in ideology, yes. She doesn't manage to stand up to Shirou in their ideological clash in the Fate route either.
Nope, Saber would get wrecked by Fate/Zero's Rider and Lancer too.
UBW Lancer could possibly defeat Saber too.
Have you read the visual novel? This isn't even remotely true. Saber's base parameters, special class skills, etc. as well as strong Noble Phantasms such as Excalibur would absolutely destroy both Iskandar and Diarmuid. In fact, Iskander and Diarmuid are extremely weak compared to Stay Night's Servants. Or Zero Servants in general. Saber manages to beat Stay Night Rider, who is considerably more powerful than Iskandar or Diarmuid.
Like I told the guy. If Saber got the time to shine like in F/SN, they'd both get destroyed by her. Given that the fight doesn't get interrupted or anything or that Saber's Master is Rin, not Shirou. Although, she has some good feats even with Shirou as her Master.
Nah .. When she went against berseker she got exhauted from killing berseker 1 time if archer and rin didn't help her she wouldn't have gotten that kill anyways !
Ubw lancer could wreck her with that anti-army attack that he used against archer .. Heck .. He can do it with just that heart curse !
Seriously in UBW1 she struggle against a servant's servant..........
She is probably stronger than UBW rider .. Which is so weak considering shiro stood his ground against her with hardly any magic lmao
If we are talking zero i am still at episode 5 but i guess she could only beat that sadistic untill i see his powers anyways
She struggles against a Servant's Servant? Not a good excuse. Sasaki is literally as strong as normal Heroic Spirits, just is restricted to not being able to move away from the Ryuudou Temple. He always has the higher ground advantage and his NP is ridiculously strong. It's noted that Saber would destroy him if he tried to fight her on the same ground.
Also, no. Shirou doesn't manage to keep up with Rider.
1. They cut out Shirou's monologue in the anime about how he doesn't understand why is he still alive while fighting her
2. Rider has personal reasons to preserve Shirou's life to some extent
3. Rider has a shitty Master, who isn't even a Magus, that lowered her abilities
massively
