Wtf?? Tobi?

[KuroKaze]

Re: Last Plothole Explained

Ok I know all of you are saying look Minato's head is on the wall Kishi f**ked up big time...

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But no. It is true that Minato was officially Hokage when the 3rd Ninja war ended. And during it he was a Jounin...

But lets go back to the case if when Kakashi becomes Hokage for 3 minutes

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There we see Kakashi was not yet officially Hokage but Soon to be
and the Mountain face carvers already began carving his face into the mountain

Which leaves space for thought. The 3rd Hokage must have mentioned to Minato that he will become the 4th Hokage when he goes into retirement. The stone carvers most likely began carving his face into the mountain before his official promotion to Hokage.

When Obito looks up to see the 4th Hokage's face in the mountain he may have been watching the newly finished head of his sensei. And considering their ages from the "Timeline explanation" thread they were just about to head into war.

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And the responsibility of the Hokage is to protect the village. So that would entail them having to stay in the village while the war progressed in the instance they were attacked by suprise. Thats why the 3rd Hokage stayed in the village.

Minato was not a Hokage in the manga chapter 599 but it is possible that they already knew he was going to become Hokage and began work on the mountain head.

The official promotion to Hokage may have been delayed due to the start of the great ninja war occurring. This may be why he was still a jounin when we saw him in Kakashi's gaiden.

I hope i helped in the understanding of this plothole in any tiny way.
Please no rude comments/insults

plz tell me then....when minato was about to use ftg level 2 against the enemy group...why did one of the konoha shinobi said"""watch out we r about to see konoha's yellow flash""....not this ""hokage sama u r here"".....

 

[Rinneganist]

Kakashi obviously became a chuunin at 6, so why was he participating in the chuunin exam?
What that his jounin exam?

 

[Uzumaki Shisui]

just wait and see

 

[natzzz]

good explanation+rep and im taking my sig off.

 

[Trollito]

Re: Last Plothole Explained

Then how will you explain the fact that on the first page of Kakashi Gaiden there is no Minato face on the wall?
Kakashi Gaiden took place after the things shown in 599.

lol one of them is wrong xD

 

[Bijuu Kage]

Idk no more

 

[joekyure]

It's not Obito! It's a zetsu with Obitos DNA! And Zetsu's do have the ability to change their appearance!

 

[Itachi Uchiha ROX]

Re: Last Plothole Explained

i dunno whether its true or not but tobi is obito confirmed in the latest manga chapter 599

 

[olumiday]

It's too confusing.
Let's just wait for Kishimoto to reveal everything.

 

[Kyle Dimetri]

man i feel sorry for those who said Tobi is Obito because thats just gonna backfire when Kishi TRIES WITH ALL HIS MIGHT to explain the whole theory on how Obito survived and has his left part of his body working fine as if nothing happened, gain rinnengan, fought on equal levels with the 4th Hokage, was able to control one of the Kages, used the NINE TAIL FOX to try and destroy his own village, trying to kill Naruto as a baby (now that is just too cold for Kakuzu not to mention Obito), is able to do space time jutsu without a MS. Those who say the author isn't trolling and finds no fault with the series doesn't even know what good writing is all about. Shame

 

[Thundergod123]

Re: Last Plothole Explained

It seems Kishi try to make us believe the space and time explantion or he just trolling us now.

 

[LeEvilTongue]

Even if it was a mistake on Kishi's part, why does people give so many ****s about it??? All manga-authors make mistakes, hell even Oda does it once in a while.

 

[GdaTyler]

Minato's Carving collapsed at the time of the 3rd Shinobi world war and they carved it again. :shrug:

 

[Epix Itachi]

Re: Last Plothole Explained

Ok I know all of you are saying look Minato's head is on the wall Kishi f**ked up big time...

You must be registered for see links

But no. It is true that Minato was officially Hokage when the 3rd Ninja war ended. And during it he was a Jounin...

But lets go back to the case if when Kakashi becomes Hokage for 3 minutes

You must be registered for see links

There we see Kakashi was not yet officially Hokage but Soon to be
and the Mountain face carvers already began carving his face into the mountain

Which leaves space for thought. The 3rd Hokage must have mentioned to Minato that he will become the 4th Hokage when he goes into retirement. The stone carvers most likely began carving his face into the mountain before his official promotion to Hokage.

When Obito looks up to see the 4th Hokage's face in the mountain he may have been watching the newly finished head of his sensei. And considering their ages from the "Timeline explanation" thread they were just about to head into war.

You must be registered for see links

And the responsibility of the Hokage is to protect the village. So that would entail them having to stay in the village while the war progressed in the instance they were attacked by suprise. Thats why the 3rd Hokage stayed in the village.

Minato was not a Hokage in the manga chapter 599 but it is possible that they already knew he was going to become Hokage and began work on the mountain head.

The official promotion to Hokage may have been delayed due to the start of the great ninja war occurring. This may be why he was still a jounin when we saw him in Kakashi's gaiden.

I hope i helped in the understanding of this plothole in any tiny way.
Please no rude comments/insults

'm thinking that Madara used Rinne Tensei to revive Izuna right before he died. I get this idea by using the information from what happened with Nagato. It was made clear that you could revive anyone with RT, but since Nagato had to revive so many dead souls he could only revive a mass amount of people within a certain time frame before exhausting all his chakra thus why he couldn't revive Jiraiya. So if we take into consideration that if he was only reviving a single person he'd be able to reach further back in time but inevitably lose his life in the process.

So what I'm saying is I think Madara had created Zetsu with the cultivated cells from his fight with Hashirama. He then left all that he knew to Zetsu or was barely able to stay alive long enough after reviving Izuna to relay his information to him. After his death Izuna would follow his plan and give Nagato the Rinnegan (originally his eyes in the first place) and spur him to start the Akatsuki so he could hide in there shadows for unknown reasons. After so he started his collecting of good eyes for whatever demented reasons he had considering he had no eyes of his own.

So then during the wars he had Zetsu on scout for good eyes to add to his collection and Zetsu happened to come across Obito and followed him until the whole rock drop crush shit. He then saved Obito and Izuna saw it fit to keep him alive but to genjutsu him into his control. I honestly believe Izuna could be controlling Obito the same way he controlled the Mizukage. If you look back on the manga you'd see that the long haired Tobi had identical hair to that of Izuna's and only someone with Madara's power could cast such a powerful genjutsu and since Izuna was equal in every way to Madara it wouldn't be too farfetched to assume he could cast some insane genjutsu.

This would explain why Obito knows so much and this would explain why we've seen two different Tobi's. This would also keep the timeline intact as well as give Obito a chance to be redeemed and assist Kakashi, Naruto and possibly Sasuke in defeating the invincible brothers Madara and Izuna.

But then again I'm probably horrifically wrong.

Hopefully this helps:ice:

 

[Trollito]

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[rikardo]

very good indeed

 

[Epix Itachi]

very good indeed

Thxs here have this:ice:

 

[zombiejesus]

wow i didn't even know i cared about this....still don't but thanks anyway fella.

 

[JayHyuuga]

Re: Dont Kakashi and Guy look to old?

They are 30, were 14 when Naruto was born

:flaw: if that's your theory then they are older than that.. cause when the kyuubi attacked naruto had just been born and it showed guy and kakashi ( anbu ) and they looked older than 16. i'd say they were about 17-20 at that time. and if you think about it.. naruto was 16 at the start of shippuden. that would make them late 30's and there isnt no telling * well i dont know* how long the time lasp is from naruto coming back to present.. hell they maybe right at 40

 

[Knightuchiha]

this is how i picture kishi these days

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