Wrongfully Fodderized...

Tobby17

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I fully agree with Tobirama's part and I think Izuna's death was a bit anti-climatic, I bliv a lot more should have been shown
 

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ok i see hoe your thinking. so your saying madara is just madara and theres nothing you can do but get fodderized lol. i mean yeah after the episode last week i think he is the fodderizing champion of the world.
i dont see obito's as being fodderized, but writing obito as creating a level playing feild to fairly fight kakashi instead of just almighty pushing him to death. Madara had to win, it wasn't really foddering the kages so much as plot no jutsu had to set him up as unbeatable.
 

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I think Izuna wasnt fodderized. do you think Tobirama is that weak? a perfect senju and second(most rpobabaly) strongest hokage cant take on a MS user?
 

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Obito lost that little fight because Kakashi and Obito were damn near chakra drained, all they really had left in them was close range combat. Which Kakashi at the time was better at. Plain and simple.
 

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I don't think that Izuna is the 2nd strongest Uchiha. Obito (pre Juubi), Sasuke, and Itachi are all stronger than him IMO.

I still can't understand how sound genins in the forrest of death manage to take on Lee.
That was a load of bullcrap just because Sasuke can show some cursemark.
I agree. Even though Kishi made a silly excuse through Tenten that he wouldn't have lost if he was alone. I doubt he even needed to go all out to beat them.
 
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Well, maybe one day we find out more about the Kinkaku Force and they'll turn out to be super-powerful. Though it's weird how Tobirama is never actually seen using his supposedly 1337 skillz.

I'd say Fu and Torune got fodderized wrongly - I know they were created as fodder to begin with, but the were stated to be the best in Root. Kishi could have at least shown them doing some awesome stuff before turning them into guinea pigs :|
 

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Well, maybe one day we find out more about the Kinkaku Force and they'll turn out to be super-powerful. Though it's weird how Tobirama is never actually seen using his supposedly 1337 skillz.

I'd say Fu and Torune got fodderized wrongly - I know they were created as fodder to begin with, but the were stated to be the best in Root. Kishi could have at least shown them doing some awesome stuff before turning them into guinea pigs :|
what is 1337skills ?
 

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Izuna: mostly agree...we don't know the battle's extent soviet could have been a final attack VOTE moment.

Tobirama: Disagree....

1. Kinkaku Force had the G&S bros....who are actually pretty badass. Honestly they went unopposed by ever Darui. Only losing because of plot (favorite phrase changes last second...furthermore that your being sealed magically tops despite this).

2. He had been fighting before hand.

3. He wasn't fighting them...but distracting.

4. In addition to #3, he had to contain 20 people (prevent them from leaving to chase his kiddos.

5. The shinobi of the Kinkaku force were likely just a tad below the already OP Kin/Ginkaku.

6. It's also plausible Kakuzu was there.

7. Considering the above, and that Kakuzu has seen Ginkaku transform...most likely Tobirama managed to kill most if not all of the force.

Gokage: agreed...still it was to set up Madara as bullshit strong.

Obito: 100% agreed
 

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1. izanami is not a asspull , do research on izanagi
2. tobirama wasnt fodderized, he got kicked by 20 jounin or mabye the bros came back to finish the job
3. kishi rushed that shit in order to make obito the jin quicker
 
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