Wow.. Sasuke just proved everyone wrong.

[The Masked Sage]

Re: Round 1 goes to Sasuke.

The Manga came out!!!

 

[Punk Hazard]

Re: GG Sasuke

so i'm dead wrong for saying he had 1 jutsu at the point of time that he did? Ok...

Actually, yes. You didn't say "for now he has 1 technique", you said he has 1 technique, and the manga contradicts that. The statement "Sasuke has 1 Rinnegan technique" is false, and you made the statement.

 

[spade3dg]

Re: Round 1 goes to Sasuke.

Theres some truth to that but Sasukes arsenal always peaked my interest. Although I thought Narutos BM form would be different this time around, I was looking forward to it.


The cursed seal is gone which was just a psuedo sage mode and ITachis eyes kept him from going blind. Although it's arguable EMS is just part of his birthright as a Uchiha. At the end of the day Sasuke fights solo dolo.

Broski. You ignored the part about him getting a powerup from Hagoromo. That isnt his own power or birthright.

This fight will get interesting in the last part. Shocking ending. Sasuke might just win. If he has the strength

 

[WalksInShadows]

Re: Round 1 goes to Sasuke.

to bad he's not crying

ppl like Dante have been reading the manga with a special set of glasses that sees something entirely different from what everybody else sees.

 

[Dantee]

Re: Round 1 goes to Sasuke.

You mind describing what type of arsenal peaked your interests?

Sasukes arsenal? Lol read this thread tho

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Naruto hasn't lost yet, the chapter ended before we see the outcome of the Rikudou enchanted Susanoo Chidori and the TBB. That is like saying Madara killed Sasuke before we knew what fully happened

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That's true and those attacks do look stalemated but it's safe to say Sasuke won the 1st round with this.

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[WalksInShadows]

Re: GG Sasuke

Actually, yes. You didn't say "for now he has 1 technique", you said he has 1 technique, and the manga contradicts that. The statement "Sasuke has 1 Rinnegan technique" is false, and you made the statement.

read...my..freaking...post. When i said it, did Sasuke not have 1 jutsu? Yes or no? What is it about that statement that is continually flying over your head? I said that before 692 ever came out, are you slow or something? What makes it even worse that i didn't even say he wouldn't ever have any more than 1, yet your slow tail is agreeing with someone all while putting words in my mouth like you know exactly what i said then.

 

[Apêx1]

Re: GG Sasuke

If genjutsu was an option sasuke would have already tried it by now. Sasukeʻs PS is not capable of teleporting with him in it because he hasnʻt shown the ability to do so. If you want to give sasuke that ability, then you give naruto the same benefit of the doubt and then naruto gets all kinds of crazy feats that heʻs never been shown but might be capable of doing.


Based on what did naruto create his maximum sized TBB in that timeframe? BM Naruto has created and fired his superbijuudama in almost no time considering he only began to create his dama after neo painʻs bijuudama was the size of a small mountain.

Sasuke did it on Bee and Bee was caught. Bee has a greater linkage/partnership with his Bijuu, so based on what is Naruto immune to genjutsu? Alright, I'll accept since I can show no feats of him teleporting with it. Ight.

Burden of proof fallacy. I have no reason to assist your argument, you are the one who either shows implications of Naruto being able to do something greater or concede the point. And no, you don't calculate panel time. Sasuke's PS is extremely fast, and has proven to be able to force Naruto into creating a TBB of that size despite Naruto usually being capable of creating TBB's at extreme speeds. And that's cool and all, but again, you have no way of calculating panel speed, so you either bring me implications of that not being his strongest TBB in that time-frame, or concede.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Re: GG Sasuke

read...my..freaking...post. When i said it, did Sasuke not have 1 jutsu? Yes or no? What is it about that statement that is continually flying over your head? I said that before 692 ever came out, are you slow or something? What makes it even worse that i didn't even say he wouldn't ever have any more than 1, yet your slow tail is agreeing with someone all while putting words in my mouth like you know exactly what i said then.

No, no, I know what you're saying, or in this case, trying to say. At the time you said it, there wasn't any proof otherwise, the manga only showed him using one, so are you truly wrong? And the answer is yes. While the proof that you were wrong wasn't there, it wasn't demonstrated then, it doesn't change the fact that the statement you said was incorrect. Remember, while we experience each chapter at intervals of a week, the timeframe of the story didn't change, the tie placement of the story when you said he only has one and the proof he had more than one wasn't presented is the same time placement of the story now, where we have the proof. Sasuke at the time you made the statement is the same Sasuke that we have now with the proof. That's why your statement is wrong, just like the people that said the Earth was flat were wrong, even though when they said it, there was no proof it was.

 

[lanakui8]

Re: GG Sasuke

Sasuke did it on Bee and Bee was caught. Bee has a greater linkage/partnership with his Bijuu, so based on what is Naruto immune to genjutsu? Alright, I'll accept since I can show no feats of him teleporting with it. Ight.

bee doesnʻt have a greater linkage/partnership with his bijuu anymore, naruto is in full bijuu mode which means his and his bijuuʻs chakras are completely melded together, unlike KCM or beeʻs tailed states. Plus, thereʻs the quality of narutoʻs chakras and mode being rikudou senjutsu, and then the fact naruto will just get snapped out immediately once he or his bijuu recognizes heʻs in a genjutsu.

Burden of proof fallacy. I have no reason to assist your argument, you are the one who either shows implications of Naruto being able to do something greater or concede the point.

saying burden of proof fallacy shows that you donʻt understand how that works. Itʻs only a fallacy if I say "prove me wrong, else iʻm right", itʻs not a fallacy if you yourself are asserting something positive thatʻs in direct contradiction to what iʻm saying. If you are making a positive claim to knowledge and i am as well, we both have the burden of proof to support that assertion with an argument.

And no, you don't calculate panel time. Sasuke's PS is extremely fast, and has proven to be able to force Naruto into creating a TBB of that size despite Naruto usually being capable of creating TBB's at extreme speeds. And that's cool and all, but again, you have no way of calculating panel speed, so you either bring me implications of that not being his strongest TBB in that time-frame, or concede.

So basically: you canʻt prove your argument to be true, so itʻs false? Now THATʻS a burden of proof fallacy as youʻre asserting that since I canʻt prove my argument to be true (or yours false) then your argument is true. If you want to clock the speed of sasukeʻs susanoo, Naruto was able to errect full kurama avatar

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before PS could even cross any distance. If the bijuudama on the top right is fully formed (which it seems to be since there arenʻt any particles going into it anymore), naruto created and fired his bijuudama faster than those bijuu could even fire their own. Scale that speed up to current naruto and thereʻs no way sasuke closes a considerable distance before naruto fires off one far larger than the one he used in this last chapter.

 

[Mellanoma]

Re: Round 1 goes to Sasuke.

#SoloSwerve not SoloDori

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#Swerve

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#Swerve

 

[WalksInShadows]

Re: GG Sasuke

No, no, I know what you're saying, or in this case, trying to say. At the time you said it, there wasn't any proof otherwise, the manga only showed him using one, so are you truly wrong? And the answer is yes.

see, you thinking you know what i was talking about =/= knowing exactly what i was talking about. What i've been saying before 692 was that Sasuke only had 1. Did he have just the 1? Y-e-s. If you actually knew exactly what i was saying; no paraphrasing, no masking of words...exactly. I said nothing about there being no possibility whatsoever that Sasuke wasn't going to have more than the 1. You don't know nearly as much as you think you do. Because if you did, then you'd be able to read a statement. Or better yet, actually show me where i said that. Do that, and i'll gladly stand corrected. If you can't, then don't waste your time or mine by replying.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Re: GG Sasuke

see, you thinking you know what i was talking about =/= knowing exactly what i was talking about. What i've been saying before 692 was that Sasuke only had 1. Did he have just the 1? Y-e-s. If you actually knew exactly what i was saying; no paraphrasing, no masking of words...exactly. I said nothing about there being no possibility whatsoever that Sasuke wasn't going to have more than the 1. You don't know nearly as much as you think you do. Because if you did, then you'd be able to read a statement. Or better yet, actually show me where i said that. Do that, and i'll gladly stand corrected. If you can't, then don't waste your time or mine by replying.

Then tell me how you phrased it. Exactly

 

[WalksInShadows]

Re: GG Sasuke

Then tell me how you phrased it. Exactly

so let me get this straight: you repeatedly tell me i'm 100% wrong, mindlessly agree with Blazing Storm, and all while convinced that you know exactly what i said even when i kept telling you that you didn't, but you need to know exactly what i said?

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[Dantee]

Re: Round 1 goes to Sasuke.

#SoloSwerve not SoloDori

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#Swerve

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#Swerve

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#Swerve

my newest one.

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[Natsu Shazneel]

Re: Round 1 goes to Sasuke.

Hey Dante how many chapters do you think this fight will be?

 

[Dantee]

Re: Round 1 goes to Sasuke.

Hey Dante how many chapters do you think this fight will be?

4 more probably bro. I think someone said it's ending at 700.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

Re: Round 1 goes to Sasuke.

4 more probably bro. I think someone said it's ending at 700.

4 more chapters would end the manga wouldn't it? Anyways I hope to see a good display of power by both of them. This is one fight that has been on a wait for some time now. Even If Naruto wins this fight. Sasuke still has a better record against him. I don't think any fan would consider this fight a one sided fight.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Re: GG Sasuke

so let me get this straight: you repeatedly tell me i'm 100% wrong, mindlessly agree with Blazing Storm, and all while convinced that you know exactly what i said even when i kept telling you that you didn't, but you need to know exactly what i said?

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I'm arguing that the statement "Sasuke only has 1 Rinnegan tech", regardless of if it was said prior to or after 662 was wrong. It's only recently you started saying that wasn't the statement you said, while before, you were arguing as though it were. Now that you are saying the statement wasn't the statement we argued without your correction, I'm asking for what this new "Actual" statement is.

 

[Dantee]

Re: Round 1 goes to Sasuke.

4 more chapters would end the manga wouldn't it? Anyways I hope to see a good display of power by both of them. This is one fight that has been on a wait for some time now. Even If Naruto wins this fight. Sasuke still has a better record against him. I don't think any fan would consider this fight a one sided fight.

I've anticipated this fight for quite sometime. I'm glad they're fighting once and for all at the end. It's like that moment everyones waited for you know? It's a good way to finish the manga with one big fight both of them going all out with 1 clear/maybe not so clear winner. Can't wait for the movie tho. I hope their rivalry continues even there.

 

[Apêx1]

Re: GG Sasuke

bee doesnʻt have a greater linkage/partnership with his bijuu anymore, naruto is in full bijuu mode which means his and his bijuuʻs chakras are completely melded together, unlike KCM or beeʻs tailed states. Plus, thereʻs the quality of narutoʻs chakras and mode being rikudou senjutsu, and then the fact naruto will just get snapped out immediately once he or his bijuu recognizes heʻs in a genjutsu.

Yes, he does, Naruto didn't build up a partnership superior to a several year friendship in less than a day. Ludicrous. Yes, you proved my point in bold. Hachibi took a second or two at the least to snap Bee out at the very least. Same applies here, thus the RS fail since Sasuke doesn't require eye contact to cast his genjutsu.

saying burden of proof fallacy shows that you donʻt understand how that works. Itʻs only a fallacy if I say "prove me wrong, else iʻm right", itʻs not a fallacy if you yourself are asserting something positive thatʻs in direct contradiction to what iʻm saying. If you are making a positive claim to knowledge and i am as well, we both have the burden of proof to support that assertion with an argument.

No, that's simply the most basic example of it, burden of proof fallacy can be much more complex than that. The fact you have no proof to support your claim of Naruto being able to create a TBB larger than that in said time period, but have no proof of such, thus telling me to give proof of him not being able to create a TBB larger than that is burden of proof fallacy. Deny it all you want, it is definitely the case.

So basically: you canʻt prove your argument to be true, so itʻs false? Now THATʻS a burden of proof fallacy as youʻre asserting that since I canʻt prove my argument to be true (or yours false) then your argument is true. If you want to clock the speed of sasukeʻs susanoo, Naruto was able to errect full kurama avatar

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before PS could even cross any distance. If the bijuudama on the top right is fully formed (which it seems to be since there arenʻt any particles going into it anymore), naruto created and fired his bijuudama faster than those bijuu could even fire their own. Scale that speed up to current naruto and thereʻs no way sasuke closes a considerable distance before naruto fires off one far larger than the one he used in this last chapter.

Incorrect. You brought up one panel being quicker than another, which should never be done in an argument as it will always be biased. Then you make a point revolving around the self-benefitting self-made timeframe, and ask me to show why Naruto couldn't make a TBB larger than the one he did last chapter, despite nothing implying he could in the timeframe between Sasuke's Chidori and the point they made contact. Either show implications or stop debating this as a whole, as it is not a proper way of debating. Again, self-benefitting self-made interpretations to benefit your own point, and then you probably wonder why most people don't take you seriously and ignore your rebuttals.