Would you rather have a 3-tomoe and can't upgrade or MS but can only use MS?

[SumnNarutoRelated]

If you had to fight in a war, would you rather fight with a permanent 3- tome Sharingan, or a permanent MS that you can't shut off?


3 tomoe

Pros:

Never go blind

Chakra consumption minimum


Cons:

Not as powerful as MS

No MS special abilities



MS

Pros:

Susanoo, MS Special Ability (Ama, Koto, Enton etc.. (you can only pick one))

Bigger Chakra reserves


Cons:

Quicker Chakra consumption

Eventual Blindness

 

[Marin]

3 tomoe all the way. Could beat the shit out of anyone and be able to dodge bullets so hell yeah.

MS on its own is just not worth it. Btw MS doesn't mean bigger chakra reserves. If nothing else, it drains it down even faster.

 

[SumnNarutoRelated]

3 tomoe all the way. Could beat the shit out of anyone and be able to dodge bullets so hell yeah.

MS on its own is just not worth it. Btw MS doesn't mean bigger chakra reserves. If nothing else, it drains it down even faster.

War is hell. a 3 tomoe against a battalion won't do THAT much for u

oh and i do believe you get a bigger chakra reserve when you get a MS, how else would you be able to maintain it if you didnt? Its a powerup

Thats like getting a rocket and expecting it to run on regular gasoline. To run the MS you need MS fuel (higher chakra reserves)

 

[Peace Maker]

3 tomoe all the way. Could beat the shit out of anyone and be able to dodge bullets so hell yeah.

MS on its own is just not worth it. Btw MS doesn't mean bigger chakra reserves. If nothing else, it drains it down even faster.

Fool normal people cannot dodge a bullet do you even know how fast it is? Even if you can predict it if he already know where you going your dead fool.

 

[Marin]

War is hell. a 3 tomoe against a battalion won't do THAT much for u

oh and i do believe you get a bigger chakra reserve when you get a MS, how else would you be able to maintain it if you didnt? Its a powerup

Thats like getting a rocket and expecting it to run on regular gasoline. To run the MS you need MS fuel (higher chakra reserves)

I wasn't expecting to goe toe to toe against a battalion. xD More like a one on one stuff. Besides, if I had chakra I'd utilize other techniques to get me out of there.

And no, MS doesn't power up anything but the eyes. That's why all the strain happens. Your body doesn't keep up with it. And idk how it would help against a battalion either. lol Do throw a scan if I'm wrong about the power ups.

Fool normal people cannot dodge a bullet do you even know how fast it is? Even if you can predict it if he already know where you going your dead fool.

Someone with your avatar and sig doesn't have the right to call others fools. That being said, Sharingan predicts movements from slightest tensions in body so you could already see when he's about to pull the trigger. You just move from the direction the gun is pointing at. The bullet's speed doesn't matter.

Also, having a Sharingan requires chakra. Someone with chakra isn't a "normal" human.

 

[SumnNarutoRelated]

I wasn't expecting to goe toe to toe against a battalion. xD More like a one on one stuff. Besides, if I had chakra I'd utilize other techniques to get me out of there.

And no, MS doesn't power up anything but the eyes. That's why all the strain happens. Your body doesn't keep up with it. And idk how it would help against a battalion either. lol Do throw a scan if I'm wrong about the power ups.

Theres no one on ones in war lol, there are platoons vs platoons, grenades, airstrikes, guerrilla warfare all happening at once. and theres no other techniques, just a pair of 3 tome sharingans, the most ill grant you is average shinobi movement but thats it

the strain happens because MS is meant to work against you. Its a forbidden technique in other words as Itachi explained to Sasuke during their fight. From the moment its awakened it starts to close. That sounds like a technique that should've never been awakened. However, you do get the necessary chakra to activate the abilities that comes from the awakening.

You really think 3 tome Sasuke has the same reserves as MS Sasuke?

 

[Marin]

Theres no one on ones in war lol, there are platoons vs platoons, grenades, airstrikes, guerrilla warfare all happening at once. and theres no other techniques, just a pair of 3 tome sharingans, the most ill grant you is average shinobi movement but thats it

the strain happens because MS is meant to work against you. Its a forbidden technique in other words as Itachi explained to Sasuke during their fight. From the moment its awakened it starts to close. That sounds like a technique that should've never been awakened. However, you do get the necessary chakra to activate the abilities that comes from the awakening.

You really think 3 tome Sasuke has the same reserves as MS Sasuke?

Never said you could fight them. Just pointed out that you couldn't do shit alone unless you had Rinengan or something. xD

Well, if you'd give higher chakra then for 3 tomoe then that's a different story, but canonically you don't get it as a bonus. And no, simply working against you isn't an answer since you're using the concequence as a cause. The technique just strains you down because it's not in it's perfect form. Only with EMS do you get to use it without drawbacks. But even then your chakra doesn't change.

As I said, provide a scan where it says MS gives higher chakra reserves.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

MS because you can get the benefits of both.

 

[Zlad]

3 tomoe? MS? What is this hunger games? I'd rather have this

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[SumnNarutoRelated]

Never said you could fight them. Just pointed out that you couldn't do shit alone unless you had Rinengan or something. xD

Well, if you'd give higher chakra then for 3 tomoe then that's a different story, but canonically you don't get it as a bonus. And no, simply working against you isn't an answer since you're using the concequence as a cause. The technique just strains you down because it's not in it's perfect form. Only with EMS do you get to use it without drawbacks. But even then your chakra doesn't change.

As I said, provide a scan where it says MS gives higher chakra reserves.

EMS isn't a "perfect" state, as in the sense that it's a natural evolution of the Sharingan. That's just a method to prevent the Sharingan from blinded you. You don't all of a sudden get new abilities with a EMS. You can basically get a pseudo- EMS if you have Senju DNA which means EMS isn't pure nor perfect

I'm not using the consequence as a cause, im going by itachis own words. MS is forbidden which is why it hurts you. You're not supposed to have it as it starts to seal itself. However, to use its abilities you absolutely need the reserves for it. How can u use a susanoo without the necessary power it requires to use it?

Also EMS sasuke is stronger than ms sasuke who is stronger than 3 tomoe. That's because u get more chakra with each upgrade

 

[Marin]

MS because you can get the benefits of both.

Except you'll spend half the time dripping blood and cry over the loss of eyesight. :sdo:

 

[SumnNarutoRelated]

MS because you can get the benefits of both.

But you'll eventually go blind

 

[Illuminater]

Seriously, lets be real here. In the real world a sharingan isn't going to help at all. You will rarely get into physical combat situations in which you would need the sharingan. And sharingan perception ONLY works on things with chakra. SO bullets, kunais, anything that's pretty much not alive will not be sensed by you. It would be entirely useless except you might be able to cast a genjutsu on enemies. How? Itachi casted a genjutsu on naruto with his hand so you can use your body, but you would get shot before that happens. SO MS is the best and only viable option. ANyone who says sharingan is an idiot.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

But you'll eventually go blind

There's a solution to it, so i'd take the chances. With power=leverage.
Itachi had MS from 13 years old till 21 years old.

Except you'll spend half the time dripping blood and cry over the loss of eyesight. :sdo:

There's solutions to it. I only saw people who used Amatersu drip with blood.

 

[SumnNarutoRelated]

Seriously, lets be real here. In the real world a sharingan isn't going to help at all. You will rarely get into physical combat situations in which you would need the sharingan. And sharingan perception ONLY works on things with chakra. SO bullets, kunais, anything that's pretty much not alive will not be sensed by you. It would be entirely useless except you might be able to cast a genjutsu on enemies. How? Itachi casted a genjutsu on naruto with his hand so you can use your body, but you would get shot before that happens. SO MS is the best and only viable option. ANyone who says sharingan is an idiot.

The Sharingan doesn't just work on things with chakra unless you're talking about genjutsu. You also have the pre-cog effect. And naturally everyone in this war would have chakra so genjutsu would work but you're the only one who knows how to use the chakra to jump around and use your Sharingan

 

[Marin]

EMS isn't a "perfect" state, as in the sense that it's a martial evolution of the Sharingan. That's just a method to prevent the Sharingan from blinded you. You don't all of a sudden get new abilities with a EMS. You can basically get a pseudo- EMS if you have Senju DNA which means EMS isn't pure not perfect

I'm not using the consequence as a cause, im going by itachis own words. MS is forbidden which is why it hurts you. You're not supposed to have it as it starts to seal itself. However, to use its abilities you absolutely need the reserves for it. How can u use a susanoo without the necessary power it requires to use it?

Also EMS sasuke is stronger than ms sasuke who is stronger than 3 tomoe. That's because u get more chakra with each upgrade

Actually EMS is the perfect Sharingan. Hence the name Eternal Mangekyo. You receive all the powers previous forms had without any drawbacks. And what does Senju DNA has to do with anything? You get EMS by transplanting eyes, so yeah it's not pure, but it's still withing one's bloodline so it can pass as a legit Sharingan.

This however, doesn't go for Rinengan, RinneSharingan etc. because they use external bloodlines for the sake of unlocking them. And yes you are. A forbidden technique is indeed a technique harmful to the user, that's it's definition. You basically said "it's harmful because it's harmful". We know that. But how does it do that, as in harm the user? That's the question. Answer: huge drain of chakra and stamina as well as damage to the optical nerves.

And no, it being forbbiden doesn't mean you weren't meant to have it. It just means that it's viewed as socially unacceptable. Thus causing those who use them to be looked down on in the society. It's just the norm not to use it. Awakening it is completely natural, well as natural as a deep emotional trauma can be.

And yes, ofcourse MS Sasuke is stronger than the Hebi Sasuke, but it's not due to increased chakra, but the unlocked abilities. As for how can you use techniques like Susanoo? Easy. Unlocking condition doesn't mean you can be a profound user. You just need the eyes to unlock it, but sustaining it is a nightmare. That's why all the MS users broke down soon after activating it. Just look at Itachi and Sasuke. The guy broke down after only activating the rib cage.

And Sasuke indeed has huge chakra reserves. That's how he was able to keep it so long in his fight against Danzo. However, every Sasuke had huge chakra resrves, since he is Indra's descendant. The reason why we see him lasting longer and longer could be due to the fact that, just like everything else, he trained enough to tap into it more and more.

 

[Illuminater]

The Sharingan doesn't just work on things with chakra unless you're talking about genjutsu. You also have the pre-cog effect. And naturally everyone in this war would have chakra so genjutsu would work but you're the only one who knows how to use the chakra to jump around and use your Sharingan

so it can predict the movements of things without chakra?

 

[Marin]

There's a solution to it, so i'd take the chances. With power=leverage.
Itachi had MS from 13 years old till 21 years old.

There's solutions to it. I only saw people who used Amatersu drip with blood.

I don't think he had it since 13. He awakened it only after witnessing Shisui's death. Wasn't that like, a few years later? Regardless, him having it so long doesn't mean he used it all the time.

And no. Susanoo as well deals huge damage, not just to the eyes but the entire body as well. Remember Sasuke saying "every cell in my body hurts" despite only activating the rib cage. I'm not even gonna mention Itachi...

 

[SumnNarutoRelated]

Actually EMS is the perfect Sharingan. Hence the name Eternal Mangekyo. You receive all the powers previous forms had without any drawbacks. And what does Senju DNA has to do with anything? You get EMS by transplanting eyes, so yeah it's not pure, but it's still withing one's bloodline so it can pass as a legit Sharingan.

This however, doesn't go for Rinengan, RinneSharingan etc. because they use external bloodlines for the sake of unlocking them. And yes you are. A forbidden technique is indeed a technique harmful to the user, that's it's definition. You basically said "it's harmful because it's harmful". We know that. But how does it do that, as in harm the user? That's the question. Answer: huge drain of chakra and stamina as well as damage to the optical nerves.

And no, it being forbbiden doesn't mean you weren't meant to have it. It just means that it's viewed as socially unacceptable. Thus causing those who use them to be looked down on in the society. It's just the norm not to use it. Awakening it is completely natural, well as natural as a deep emotional trauma can be.

And yes, ofcourse MS Sasuke is stronger than the Hebi Sasuke, but it's not due to increased chakra, but the unlocked abilities. As for how can you use techniques like Susanoo? Easy. Unlocking condition doesn't mean you can be a profound user. You just need the eyes to unlock it, but sustaining it is a nightmare. That's why all the MS users broke down soon after activating it. Just look at Itachi and Sasuke. The guy broke down after only activating the rib cage.

And Sasuke indeed has huge chakra reserves. That's how he was able to keep it so long in his fight against Danzo. However, every Sasuke had huge chakra resrves, since he is Indra's descendant. The reason why we see him lasting longer and longer could be due to the fact that, just like everything else, he trained enough to tap into it more and more.

So u mean to tell me, even though we haven't seen sasuke do ANY physical training from 3 tomoe all the way to MS sasuke, he magically got bigger and bigger reserves?

 

[Illuminater]

So u mean to tell me, even though we haven't seen sasuke do ANY physical training from 3 tomoe all the way to MS sasuke, he magically got bigger and bigger reserves?

yes. he trained with oro. stop making things up.