Would you cheat on your boyfriend/girlfriend if it was guaranteed they'd never know?

[Ldude]

No, I hate cheaters.

 

[Goetia]

No, I would never cheat under any circumstances. That is betrayal, whether they know of it or not.

 

[Transcendence]

No, not at all. I've been cheated on twice (Both times this year; Once in January with a girl I dated from my school and another in late May with a girl online from here on NB). It feels absolutely horrible. You feel like you're worth nothing after that. What did you do wrong for the person to cheat on you? I really can't put into words how horrible it feels. You have to experience it yourself. The only time I would have sexual relations with someone outside my relationship is if I already know that she is cheating on me, which in my case wouldn't be cheating, it would be getting pay back.

 

[Transcendence]

Also, if I might add (too lazy to edit), trust me, everyone will think of cheating at least once during a relationship. You're bound by your own self-developed moral derived from how you were brought up, choosing whether or not to cheat. See in this scenario, some will say yes, and some will say no. I wouldn't cheat even if I know she wouldn't find out because I wouldn't be able to live with myself. I know how it feels to be cheated on and the emotional pain that comes with it. It's horrible and downright excessive. To do that to another person, knowing that they have been faithful (and this is assuming that they are faithful and loyal) is morally repulsive; although I'm not going to get into this moral and ethics debate that Riker and Vapid have perpetuated on to this thread.

Although Riker, if I may add, some of those people on your list a few pages back lied about them believing in the co-existence of monogamy and homosexuality. You know who I'm talking about. Likewise, you can add me to that list.

 

[Joe Black]

Act as if the maxim of your deed would become a universal law.

 

[YowYan]

No, never.

 

[paratise]

No for both. We are not all what others think of us, even if no one else would know i would. It may not make a difference to my lover/friend but it would make a difference to me and what kind of a person i am.

 

[Aampt]

If you honestly have to cheat on your partner to get the satisfactions you need, then just break up with your partner. I honestly think it would hurt far less to end it sooner, than to have them find out or you tell them because of guilt, then the relationship ends. Just end it if you're not happy, cheating is so low it disgusts me.

 

[Punk Hazard]

I highly doubt I'm the first, and your point is moot. My beliefs and ideals were formulated on my own, from what I've seen, from my own perspective; that's the point I was making. Everything you posted in this quoted section was irrelevant.


You call me a nihilist, yet you forget the definition of the word. Yes, I believe that beliefs are useless, as I do existence, but the thing is, I've decided to formulate my own useless beliefs regardless, as that's what I want to do with my negligible existence (call it a... "paradoxical loop"). The difference between you and me is that (I'm jumping to conclusions here, but it's so obvious) my useless beliefs are my own; yours aren't and are common in their concept (which is why so many here understand you: they too lack a perspective of their own).


Taking things out of context, and for what? This is the dumbest post I've seen from you thus far and it ruins the quality of the other sections of your full post.


You simply don't understand the difference between having formulated your useless beliefs on your own and having been affected (or rather brainwashed) by an external source. If I come to the same conclusion(s) as another, but both of us formulate our beliefs on our own, then neither of us, though similar in our trains of thought, are 'unoriginal' or brainwashed. You, on the other hand, along with others in this thread, have seemingly been brought up with a set of 'rights' and 'wrongs' engraved into your brains, with no chance of thinking otherwise.

That assertion would be contradictory, as you yourself have already been brainwashed into thinking that "A man who lacks moral values, faiths, beliefs, emotions, is no man, he is either a mindless beast or a machine, both which are to be controlled." I have at least formulated my beliefs that existence is useless and morals, faith and beliefs are all useless as well on my own.

And how do you know people with morals aren't? I have formulated my beliefs on experiences, perspectives, and from what I've seen. I believe cheating is wrong because I've seen how people have reacted to being cheated on, I've seen people cry, mope and become depressed because of it, I've heard my mother speak so ill of my father because he cheated, and thus, I believe cheating is wrong.

I see emotions as essential because they affect human life. I've tried living life without feeling anything, and ironically, it felt horrible, that is no way to live. I've made "wrong" decisions, things human beings decided as "wrong", and had negative repercussions because of them. My following of right and wrong, my holding values in things like emotions and beliefs are because I've been in the opposite part, and it was horrible, so no, I am not brainwashed just because I can find something good in the world and what makes me happy.

Your beliefs are not your own. The bolded is exactly what a nihilist is. You have no ideals that are different to those who have come before you, and no ideals that those who will come after you will never have. Being open-minded and being a free-thinker isn't about having "your own ideals" as you put it. Being open-minded means looking at the world, and putting together the pieces, sifting through the innumerable concepts, philosophies and ideals and filtering out the bullshit and putting together what you perceive as truth into your own picture. Adopting ideals from others, adopting ideals that have been relayed to you, that doesn't make you brainwashed unless you accepted it with no thought, you have no idea what free-thinking and open-mindedness even is. You're a hypocrite because you try to advocate open-mindedness, but exhibit signs of dismissing others' beliefs because you "form your own ideals on your own."

No, it does not. You believe that we are brainwashed because we have beliefs that didn't originate with us, the earth being round, 2+2=4, these are now our OWN thoughts because we did not find this out on our own, someone told us, does that mean we are brainwashed and should abandon these ideals? Did you conduct experiments by yourself to see if the earth was truly round? Did you go out into space yourself and see if there really is no gravity in space? Did you conduct experiments yourself to see if black holes really suck in and obliterate anything? No, you have MANY "facts" that you abide by in your life and believe simply because a bunch of people said "these are the facts", gravity, light, antimatter, the planets, everything that you know about them, you didn't find out for yourself, someone told you. You missed the point of me bringing it up, it goes to show that simply because you have an ideal that someone else presented to you, simply because you believe something that was presented to you by an outside source, does not make you brainwashed. If so, you're brainwashed for accepting the laws of the universe without conducting every single experiment for them yourself.

I could just as easily say you have brainwashed into having no values, no standards, no connections, so you are easier to control. You are a blank slate, and all that's left is for someone to fill it in.

I do have the ability to think otherwise, as I expressed with my post where I listed scenarios where murder, stealing, or lying, things normally seen as inherently and always wrong, were acceptable and actually right. You have yet to provide a scenario where the same can be said for cheating.

You're nothing more than a nihilist who needs to feel better about his dark view on the world, Vapid, and it's honestly really sad.

 

[Luther]

Rikerslade you need to grow up and learn to express your opinions without insulting someone elses. Vapid is merely stating his views and beliefs.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Rikerslade you need to grow up and learn to express your opinions without insulting someone elses. Vapid is merely stating his views and beliefs.

I understand that, and that's how I feel about how his views and beliefs. I think they are sad, and no way to live life, so I'm expressing that belief and view. Funny how I need to grow up because of what I said about his views and beliefs, but he doesn't need to grow up for insulting me by calling me brainwashed, close-minded and delusional.

 

[Luther]

Both you and vapid are in the wrong, you are free to express your opinions as you wish and discuss your ideas with one another but do so maturely is all i ask. You can get your point across without name callings or any other hostile words.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Both you and vapid are in the wrong, you are free to express your opinions as you wish and discuss your ideas with one another but do so maturely is all i ask. You can get your point across without name callings or any other hostile words.

I don't see how or where I was immature. And if we are both in the wrong as you now claim, why'd you single me out at first?

 

[Funky Tiger]

I might be tempted, but I don't think that I will, if I took the relationship seriously.

 

[Edenia]

Rikerslade you need to grow up and learn to express your opinions without insulting someone elses. Vapid is merely stating his views and beliefs.

everyone is free to think whatever they want and we definitely should respect each other but his way of thinking fits into the psycopath cathegory, it's no insult. One person who is self-centered and bears no emotions towards others not being able to feel any kind of remorse because he doesn't think it's wrong and for him the concepts of right and wrong are vague is the definition of a psycopath

 

[Luther]

I don't see how or where I was immature. And if we are both in the wrong as you now claim, why'd you single me out at first?

I dont think branding him as a nilhilist was matured or respectful.
1. You were the most recent poster.
2. You were the only one online.

 

[Punk Hazard]

I dont think branding him as a nilhilist was matured or respectful.
1. You were the most recent poster.
2. You were the only one online.

I am not incorrect. It is not immature, it is truth. As Eden said above, he exhibits the signs of psychopathy, and he exhibits the signs of nihilism. Having no value in morals, emotions, and life makes you a nihilist, and he has those traits. Calling a psychopathic nihilist a psychopathic nihilist is no more disrespectful and immature than calling someone who loves cake someone who loves cake. Am I supposed to sugar-coat the truth?

Nah you were trying to save face.

 

[Naruto D Luffy]

I won't cheat on my gf

 

[Apêx1]

Nope .

 

[Lady M]

Never. If I like a guy and we become a couple, I remain completely loyal. Can't say the same for my ex's tho...