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I don't even ... He slept with her, but she disgusts him. He told her repeatedly that she made him sick, but he was bluffing. Do all of you Sakura fans weave such yarns to support this pairing? I am appalled by your shallow understanding of the manga, especially Sasuke.

That right image proves nothing. Given that he merely switched and that's it. He also saved Karin in the forest of death when he didn't even know her by felling a large bear. Going by your logic, he loved her deeply as well.
You're the only with a shallow interpretation of the manga who doesn't understand Sasuke and Sakura's characters.
the Paring is Canon Dude. Kishimoto made this.
The "Key canon moments" are there for a reason, they do not smash the pairing, they actually tell a story and explain why the characters did what they did.

Sasuke is a good boy in part 1. He would will save any person he see in Danger.



But only Team 7 are precious to him. In case you forget.


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Sakura is a very precious to persons to Sasuke.
He was willing to die to save her before he enter in the darkness.
 

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You're the only with a shallow interpretation of the manga who doesn't understand Sasuke and Sakura's characters.
the Paring is Canon Dude. Kishimoto made this.
The "Key canon moments" are there for a reason, they do not smash the pairing, they actually tell a story and explain why the characters did what they did.

Sasuke is a good boy in part 1. He would will save any person he see in Danger.

But only Team 7 are precious to him. In case you forget.


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Sakura is a very precious to persons to Sasuke.
He was willing to die to save her before he enter in the darkness.
Just like he shielded Karin several times? Must be true love. I don't give a damn about canon, when it doesn't make any sense. You can dig as many of these pointless scenes as you want, I can pint point twice as many where he deliberately stated or implied that she repulsed him.

You Hinata and Sakura fans; no wonder no one takes you seriously.
 

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Just like he shielded Karin several times? Must be true love. I don't give a damn about canon, when it doesn't make any sense. You can dig as many of these pointless scenes as you want, I can pint point twice as many where he deliberately stated or implied that she repulsed him.

You Hinata and Sakura fans; no wonder no one takes you seriously.
Don't genralise
Pairing sucks donkey b@lls in this manga
 

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Just like he shielded Karin several times? Must be true love. I don't give a damn about canon, when it doesn't make any sense. You can dig as many of these pointless scenes as you want, I can pint point twice as many where he deliberately stated or implied that she repulsed him.

You Hinata and Sakura fans; no wonder no one takes you seriously.
When Sasuke shielded Karin Dude?
The only time he made this is the Hachibi fight. When He remembered TEAM 7 before


It's funny you complaining about SS and Sakura but bring to discussion a shit character like Karin who are 100 times worse than Sakura
 
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Don't genralise
Pairing sucks donkey b@lls in this manga
I didn't. But most of them are a joke. Even you would agree. Heck, you must have seen me defend Sakura countless times. I am pretty objective when it comes to both of them.

Where Sasuke shielded Karin Dude?
The only time he made this is the Hachibi fight. When He remembered TEAM 7 before

It's funny you complaining about SS and Sakura but bring to discussion a shit character like Karin who are 100 times worse than Sakura
- Saved her from the bear.
- Shielded her with his Susano'o when she fell down.
- In the attack formation, she was always behind him.
- Saved her (and Suigetsu ) from CS 2 prisoner.
- Saved her from Bee's BM when he was literally exhausted.
- Shielded her against Jugo.

He remembered them because the situation reminded him of his team. He didn't remember them because he loved Sakura. What are on?

Don't really give a damn, as I am not a Karin fan either.
 

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I didn't. But most of them are a joke. Even you would agree. Heck, you must have seen me defend Sakura countless times. I am pretty objective when it comes to both of them.



- Saved her from the bear.
- Shielded her with his Susano'o when she fell down.
- In the attack formation, she was always behind him.
- Saved her (and Suigetsu ) from CS 2 prisoner.
- Saved her from Bee's BM when he was literally exhausted.
- Shielded her against Jugo.

He remembered them because the situation reminded him of his team. He didn't remember them because he loved Sakura. What are on?

Don't really give a damn, as I am not a Karin fan either.

Why you ignore the time Sasuke saved Sakura and helped her and accpet her hugs?

Shielded her against this guys:


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Saved her from Orochimaru:



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Sasuke was furious when he saw sakura completely hurt and broke the arm of the guy who that did this to her.
Sakura is the one who stopped Sasuke to kill the guy with a Hug.


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Sasuke was willing to die to save her from Gaara . Recognizing she is an important person to him.
When Kakashi talked to Sasuke. He thought in both Sakura and Naruto as the important persons to him.
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Accept her hug in Hospital without disgusting face like Karin.
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Thanked her


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Smiling to her and salver her from mini Juubis




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Held and thanked Sakura while he is looking inside her eyes.


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He Shared with Sakura the most important gesture to him adn thanked her again.
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Why you ignore the time Sasuke saved Sakura and helped her and accpet her hugs?

Shielded her against this guys:


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Saved her from Orochimaru:



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Sasuke was furious when he saw sakura completely hurt and broke the arm of the guy who that did this to her.
Sakura is the one who stopped Sasuke to kill the guy with a Hug.


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Sasuke was willing to die to save her from Gaara . Recognizing she is an important person to him.
When Kakashi talked to Sasuke. He thought in both Sakura and Naruto as the important persons to him.
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Accept her hug in Hospital without disgusting face like Karin.
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Thanked her


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Smiling to her and salver her from mini Juubis




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Held and thanked Sakura while he is looking inside her eyes.


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He Shared with Sakura the most important gesture to him adn thanked her again.
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Can be easily explained:

- He was protecting the villager. Not Sakura as his protection was their mission.

- Just as a team mate, as all the team with the scrolls was required to clear out the task. After that when he found out that the guy was too powerful, he offered Orochimaru the scroll himself.

- Just got out of the cursed seal and was aggressive. It had little to do with Sakura.

- He was being a good team mate. That isn't romantic love. He shielded Naruto as well from Haku. Does he romantically love him as well? I love it how you ignore Naruto incident to fuel your delusions.

- He simply looks shocked. Remember how he slapped away her plate?

- Thanking Sakura means nothing. When he thanked Karin as well for saving his life and apologized to her as soon as they faced each other.

- Smiling means he wants to **** her? What does that mean? Dear Lord ...

- Okay, I am just laughing at this one. Next. Remember how she charged at Madara, got her gut stabbed and he didn't even care? Remember when he said that he saved them just because they were near Naruto? Remember when he flew away with Naruto, leaving Sakura to slowly roast over the lava. He didn't care whether she fell down or not. But man, he's so mysterious. He means the exact opposite of what he states or does.

If Naruto had not invented floating for himself, she would have been roasted to a crisp. As he was only going to use Susano'o for himself and Naruto. But no, he loves her romantically. He told her to shut up how many times during their conversation?

- That is where my original statement of a forced pairing comes into play. Read above, kindly.
 
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I didn't. But most of them are a joke. Even you would agree. Heck, you must have seen me defend Sakura countless times. I am pretty objective when it comes to both of them.



- Saved her from the bear.
- Shielded her with his Susano'o when she fell down.
- In the attack formation, she was always behind him.
- Saved her (and Suigetsu ) from CS 2 prisoner.
- Saved her from Bee's BM when he was literally exhausted.
- Shielded her against Jugo.

He remembered them because the situation reminded him of his team. He didn't remember them because he loved Sakura. What are on?

Don't really give a damn, as I am not a Karin fan either.

1- Because Sasuke is a nice guy in part 1. He will save anyone he see in danger.


2- Because Sasuke needed Karin's abilities to find danzo.
Without this he will abandon her like he did to Suigetsu and Juugo.
Sasuke threw karin in the ground like trash after this.



3 - Because she was useless in battle. She is a supporter character.
Doesn't make sense send her to fight.

4 - This random guy never attacked them. Even Suigetsu can kill this guy easily



5 - He remembered Team 7 First. He main motivation to protect Taka.



6 - She was useless in battle.
 

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1- Because Sasuke is a nice guy in part 1. He will save anyone he see in danger.


2- Because Sasuke needed Karin's abilities to find danzo.
Without this he will abandon her like he did to Suigetsu and Juugo.
Sasuke threw karin in the ground like trash after this.



3 - Because she was useless in battle. She is a supporter character.
Doesn't make sense send her to fight.

4 - This random guy never attacked them. Even Suigetsu can kill this guy easily



5 - He remembered Team 7 First. He main motivation to protect Taka.



6 - She was useless in battle.
Jesus Christ:

- But saving Sakura means he loves her? If he saves everyone else, he's just being nice?

- He shielded her regardless. It doesn't change what I said. Given that long after, he stabbed her through the heart and was going to drill a hole through Sakura's scull as well.

- Just like Sakura was against Orochimaru or other ninjas?

- Doesn't disprove my point.

- No. The fight was reminiscent of the times when Naruto went out of his way to protect them, as Suigetsu was doing then.

- Just like Sakura was, and needed to be shielded constantly?
 

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Jesus Christ:

- But saving Sakura means he loves her? If he saves everyone else, he's just being nice?
Sasuke married with Sakura and had a daughter with her.
This is the difference .
Doesn't Matter how you disliked or try to chance their scenes.

I didn't say Sasuke loves Sakura.
But she is a special Person to him.

This canon moments are there for a reason they actually tell a story and explain why the characters did what they did and the story behind the pairings.
 

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Sasuke married with Sakura and had a daughter with her.
This is the difference .
Doesn't Matter how you disliked or try to chance their scenes.

I didn't say Sasuke loves Sakura.
But she is a special Person to him.

This canon moments are there for a reason they actually tell a story and explain why the characters did what they did and the story behind the pairings.
- People marry for a thousand different reasons, and love is not one of them. Looks like he wanted to expand his line.

- I told you about their other canon moments as well. Don't glean as you feel.
 

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Only reason I don't like the pairing isn't because of her having feelings for him. It's the fact she almost gets killed a couple times and decides to still stay with him.

She's literally the definition of being a sucker and staying with people that are bad for you.
 

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Exactly why I call her a disgrace to Bulma.
Vegeta actually sacrificed himself vs Buu for his family.
Sasuke tried to kill Sakura even AFTER she re-confessed.
 

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Since the beginning Sasuke's character was full of mystery and we soon find out his tragic past and how he is plagued with darkness. Still however he was a comrade and that was when a lot of positive development between him and Sakura took place during part 1.


Sasuke never loves nobody after his clan Massacre

Sasuke always hid his emotions and kept trying to sever his bonds and push away those close to him, that is why he never reciprocated Sakura until his change after his fight with Naruto in 698.
You're the only with a shallow interpretation of the manga who doesn't understand Sasuke and Sakura's characters.
the Paring is Canon Dude. Kishimoto made this.
The "Key canon moments" are there for a reason, they do not smash the pairing, they actually tell a story and explain why the characters did what they did.
Bro I'm flattered that you are quoting me and I don't blame you because these ridiculous arguments keep looping over and over, but you could include the whole quotes it might help. :p

Its funny how now that NaruHina and SasuSaku are canon and NaruSaku is not a thing anymore, fans of the canon pairings are bashing each other because they have nothing else to do.

SasuSaku is not "my pairing" first of all, I was merely pointing out that saying it is a mere afterthought is quite ridiculous, and showed their interaction throughout the story, don't get stuck up on the few fan arts those are there for the looks, I copy pasted this from somewhere else.

And the "Key canon moments" are there for a reason, they do not smash the pairing, they actually tell a story and explain why the characters did what they did.

I won't say NaruHina came out of nowhere and was an afterthought because it was also hinted at in the manga and no one can deny that, but I beleive that SasuSaku had much more drama and interactions in the manga.

Some NaruHina fans are getting cocky just because they got a romance movie, don't jump in the bandwagon. :hint:

But I digress, "NaruHina" is valid and has been for a long time, but so is "SasuSaku".

@bold: well maybe you should of read, he posted many manga scans that further illustrate my point...
You see, the problem is how rushed the ending was and how fast they got together from 699 on wards. For some people it SEEMS only negative and unreasonable.

But in fact, Kishi has intended for SS to be paired from a VERY long time, let me explain.

This manga has been going on over the span of 15 years, and we all know romance is not Kishi's focus nor is it his forte, so the development gets low priority and is far apart, thus we tend to forget most of it especially the really old stuff.

Since the beginning Sasuke's character was full of mystery and we soon find out his tragic past and how he is plagued with darkness. Still however he was a comrade and that was when a lot of positive development between him and Sakura took place.

As time passed his curse of hatred started to grow, triggered by Orochimaru's influence and curse seal, that was when Sakura saw him fall into darkness with her own eyes. This would define her development with Sasuke up until 698.

Like you mentioned Naruto and Hinata's development showed them grow closer together, while Sasuke and Sakura had a lot of negative interactions which should tear them apart. If you look at things face value then yes you are right, but this is a very superficial deduction of their relationship which ignores some key points.

Sakura's relationship and development is defined by her trying to save him from darkness and enduring his hate, she made it her mission since their encounter with Oro in the forest.

Sasuke on the other hand always hid his emotions and kept trying to sever his bonds and push away those close to him, that is why he never reciprocated Sakura until his change after his fight with Naruto in 698.

This is an excellent post which summarizes their relationship:



And this is another good read regarding Sasuke:



Himawari is adorable, peace.

And Shelke LOL what?, Sasuke never banged Karin... that's just dumb lol
 

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Stop. Tsunade became a drunk woman who spend all his money in bet during years after Dan's death.
She only changed after Naruto TNJ.



Sakura best apprentice of Tsunade.
Recognized by Sasori, Chiyo, Hashirama, Shizune.
She healed entire alliance
She saved Sasuke and Naruto.
She delivered the final blow in Kaguya.

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what a joke :rolleyes:

Tsunade never hurt anybody, Shizune followed her because they are friends and she cares for her period.
what Sakura did to her supposed best friend Ino after she found she also had a crush for her precious Sasuke?
do you really want me to remind you how Sakura is a traitor in disguise since day 1 and that she's the most unreliable and disrespectful person in the entire NV?


stop your BS about her fights and stuff like this because you are making fun of yourself even more, she never became a strong ninja for herself or to help others, it was only to impress Sasuke and to reach Naruto and Sasuke level (and she failed, their are demi gods, she's still nothing more than a crappy Tsunade 2.0).

i'm talking about her personality which is disgusting AF and that's why everybody hates her because it's logic and sane to reject someone like her, she's not only useless and annoying, you cannot put your trust on her for obvious reasons.

Sasuke punched her and harmed her for all these reasons, she deserved to learn some lessons and respect others more than anybody else in the manga.
 

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No need for such extensive hatred on Sakura.
But she really is a failed character, sadly for Kishi.
UNLESS he did this on purpose, which I haven't yet been convinced of OTHERWISE.
For one, unlike Hinata, Sakura was forced on him by the editors, so there is a chance he didn't put his entire self into developing her.
Yes, unlike Hinata, who we actually see DEVELOPING - even if her driving force IS Naruto-kun.
Still, development is development nonetheless.
Or maybe it's the other way around - Hinata actually accentuates Sakura's failures in comparison.
Sakura might be a Super Saiyan (a weak one anyways, in comparison to the Legendaries of her team) - but she utterly fails as a PERSON.
LOOOL
 

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No need for such extensive hatred on Sakura.
But she really is a failed character, sadly for Kishi.
UNLESS he did this on purpose, which I haven't yet been convinced of OTHERWISE.
For one, unlike Hinata, Sakura was forced on him by the editors, so there is a chance he didn't put his entire self into developing her.
Yes, unlike Hinata, who we actually see DEVELOPING - even if her driving force IS Naruto-kun.
Still, development is development nonetheless.
Or maybe it's the other way around - Hinata actually accentuates Sakura's failures in comparison.
Sakura might be a Super Saiyan (a weak one anyways, in comparison to the Legendaries of her team) - but she utterly fails as a PERSON.
LOOOL
she was made to be a scape goat, a punching ball, don't you see it?

Kishimoto was forced to create various stuff for his manga including her, that's why he said recently that he wants her to be happy now, she paid for what she have done and i hope, if we see her again in part 3, that she also changed a lot (just like Sasuke came back to his old gentle self from part 1).

about Hinata:

the hate towards her is plain BS, she would have never betrayed the village or her family for Naruto even if she loves him since their childhood and the movie show this perfectly for her haters and for the blind ones saying crap about her.

Hinata's character evolved a lot, she went from being a super shy non confident little girl to a brave courageous woman, Naruto was her model but not only him, Neji was one too and her dad and mom.

she did it not to impress Naruto but to improve herself as a person and to gain his respect but not only his.

she never complained about Neji or her family rejecting her because they though her gentle character is a weakness, which of course is not just like Naruto's TNJ is his most powerful weapon.

she never acted badly towards anybody, friends, team mates etc
in fact she always care a lot about everybody else just like Naruto and Sasuke!!!

as a side character, Hinata was honestly done, Sakura is not supposed to be a side character yet she's even worse than one, every character improved in the personal area in the manga except her.
what defines a character is not only his fights or the number of panels he/she had, the most important part is the personality, background and personal evolution, this is why the majority hate Sakura.

Sakura is not a super saiyan please, she's the poor little rich girl whom complains for her horrible life after breaking a nail in front of an orphanage and whom has no courage, no shame and no pride.

without Sasuke, Sakura would have probably died a long time ago, the only reason she's still alive is him and only him.

Naruto and Hinata are the same, they fought against their inner demons and fears, Sasuke did the same, all the other characters evolved from their old weakest selves to stronger grown up young adults but Sakura nope nope nope...

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And that's the saddest thing about Sakura.
I think we shouldn't hate her, but rather pity for how her entire creation purpose was to be hated by fans, loool.
I'm pretty serious when I say that Kishi himself hates Sakura.
Cause even Obito ended up being "cool", while Sakura stayed the same Sasuke-fangirl she was introduced as.
 
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