Would part 1 Jounin low-diff part 1 Gaara?

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Portrayal made it seem like CE Gaara could have given Jonin's potential problems seeing as he was completing B rank missions at the time iirc.. I think that Kakashi and Gai destroy the CE version though and have difficulty against SRA but probably still win.
 

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Lol nah.


Kurenai, based on nothing.

Asuma, okay if it's pt.2.
What difference would it make? Part 1 Asuma is featless, that's the only reason we can't say he's faster than the sand. But with that logic, Gaara beats part 1 Kisame as well.
 

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are we really saying asuma and kurenai are slower that weightless CE lee? Thats wild as fuck
So are we really giving claims to characters with no such feats in PT.1? That's wild as ****.
What difference would it make? Part 1 Asuma is featless, that's the only reason we can't say he's faster than the sand. But with that logic, Gaara beats part 1 Kisame as well.
By that logic we could. But it's nonetheless sound because there's no a shred of evidence to even suggest they possess such speed. Again, using your example, but in reverse: Ibiki is a S-Jounin, does that mean he could beat Gaara too, despite showing any feats to do so?
 

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So are we really giving claims to characters with no such feats in PT.1? That's wild as ****.
seeing as how kurenai and asuma held their own against Kisame and itachi for a lil bit im comfortable saying their faster than genin speed sand. -_-


By that logic we could. But it's nonetheless sound because there's no a shred of evidence to even suggest they possess such speed. Again, using your example, but in reverse: Ibiki is a S-Jounin, does that mean he could beat Gaara too, despite showing any feats to do so?
S-jounin is special jounin as in they specialize in 1 thing that makes them jounin, and everything else is chunin lvl. Even tho that was for EZQ, ima need you to pull another example.
 

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So are we really giving claims to characters with no such feats in PT.1? That's wild as ****.


By that logic we could. But it's nonetheless sound because there's no a shred of evidence to even suggest they possess such speed. Again, using your example, but in reverse: Ibiki is a S-Jounin, does that mean he could beat Gaara too, despite showing any feats to do so?
Being a Jonin is an upgrade on basic skills overall. You say there's no evidence, but the evidence is on the fact that they're jonins.



Kurenai stats make 29.5.

Part 1 Naruto's or Sasuke's stats are around 22.5



Gaiden Kakashi, when he had just became a Jonin, could already perform Chidori (which requires weightless Lee speed level) and we saw him almost get killed by another Jonin, and after that he got sparred by other 2 random Jonins along with Obito.

edit: and yeah, on Ibiki, he's a tokubetsu Jonin like anko. He is special on a certain category, that's why he's a Jonin.
 
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Asuma's wind blades clearly rip through Gaara's auto defense[ ]. Might guy had no enhancements just swung his bare hands. Even lee's kicks and punches were popping out the other side[ ].
Kurenai, based on nothing.
Jounins are clearly on another level of speed than genin, Kurenai included[ ].
Neji's Striking speed rivals and I believe surpasses rock lee's. in addition to that Neji had his bykugan activated. This speed feat mixed with the reaction feat of dodging and blocking Itachi's attacks right after a genjutsu easily makes her fast enough in both speed and reflexes to infiltrate gaara's auto defense[ ].
 

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Asuma's wind blades clearly rip through Gaara's auto defense[ ]. Might guy had no enhancements just swung his bare hands. Even lee's kicks and punches were popping out the other side[ ].

Jounins are clearly on another level of speed than genin, Kurenai included[ ].
Neji's Striking speed rivals and I believe surpasses rock lee's. in addition to that Neji had his bykugan activated. This speed feat mixed with the reaction feat of dodging and blocking Itachi's attacks right after a genjutsu easily makes her fast enough in both speed and reflexes to infiltrate gaara's auto defense[ ].
Okay, I concede.
 
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