Would Obito and Madara have been defeated?

[Gerkak]

Suppose Healthy Nagato had broken free of edo tensei and aided Naruto and Bee in fighting Obito and later Madara would they have beaten them and stopped the juubi's revival? Just a random question. What do you think?

 

[Cursed Prince]

Nope. He woulda got fodderized as well, or controlled

 

[Naruto99Uzumaki]

obito and madara would haven eaten them to breakfast

 

[-ahhimane-]

No not completely. Because both sides got the rinnegan.

 

[sharinganunited]

Old shit same story

 

[KidGamer65]

Nope. They would have beaten Obito before Madara arrived though if Nagato had helped.

 

[AllomnisymbolsparttwoT]

No, Madara is currently the most advanced rinnegan user, he broke rikudo seal on the moon at an old age, nagato couldn't even make a rikudo seal, so its invaild and unreasonable to say nagato is more advanced than madara, Plus Obito would have used rinnegan and in that case would have been close to maddy level since Madara trained obito

 

[kekerot]

what are you smoking i want some of that too

 

[Gerkak]

No, Madara is currently the most advanced rinnegan user, he broke rikudo seal on the moon at an old age, nagato couldn't even make a rikudo seal, so its invaild and unreasonable to say nagato is more advanced than madara, Plus Obito would have used rinnegan and in that case would have been close to maddy level since Madara trained obito

I can't agree with the bold. Madara has not shown anything to suggest he is better at using the rinnegan than Nagato. While I agree that he has mastered the path techniques it doesn't mean he is superior to nagato.

Anyone with the rinnegan can break the seal and summon the gedo mazo. Nobody said the seal was complex.

 

[Edo Odin]

If Bee and Naruto had Edo Nagato on their side, they would probably have been able to defeat Obito in the end. However, against Obito and Madara together, they wouldn't have stood a chance.

 

[AllomnisymbolsparttwoT]

I can't agree with the bold. Madara has not shown anything to suggest he is better at using the rinnegan than Nagato. While I agree that he has mastered the path techniques it doesn't mean he is superior to nagato.

Anyone with the rinnegan can break the seal and summon the gedo mazo. Nobody said the seal was complex.

Uh no they cant, we"re talking about Rikudo level seal not just any seal and not summoning gedo mazou like tobi did.

Madara broke a rikudo level seal in his old age, Nagato couldn't make a rikudo level seal on the nine tail fox in the pein arc. he admitted he couldnt. that right there puts Madara above nagato

 

[KidGamer65]

Uh no they cant, we"re talking about Rikudo level seal not just any seal and not summoning gedo mazou like tobi did.

Madara broke a rikudo level seal in his old age, Nagato couldn't make a rikudo level seal on the nine tail fox in the pein arc. he admitted he couldnt. that right there puts Madara above nagato

You are making it seem way more complicated than it actually is. There was no complex seal on the Gedo Mazo. It was just trapped in the moon, hence Madara saying it was sealed in the moon.

Rinnegan lets you summon the Mazo from the moon and that is all Madara did.

 

[AllomnisymbolsparttwoT]

You are making it seem way more complicated than it actually is. There was no complex seal on the Gedo Mazo. It was just trapped in the moon, hence Madara saying it was sealed in the moon.

Rinnegan lets you summon the Mazo from the moon and that is all Madara did.

Lol o..k buddy let the Manga correct you...

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MADARA: AT THE TIME ALSO ALLOWED ME TO BREAK A CERTAIN SEAL...

It was a CERTAIN seal, Not any seal, He had to break it, he didn't just summon it, he broke the certain seal THEN summoned the mazou, :I

 

[KidGamer65]

Lol o..k buddy let the Manga correct you...

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MADARA: AT THE TIME ALSO ALLOWED ME TO BREAK A CERTAIN SEAL...

It was a CERTAIN seal, Not any seal, He had to break it, he didn't just summon it, he broke the certain seal THEN summoned the mazou, :I

This only shows that anyone who awakened Rinnegan at that time could have broken the seal, as Madara was able to do so right after obtaining it.

Give someone a key and he unlocks a door. Is he talented because he had the key that let him unlock the door? lol, no. You act like he had to put in all this hard work and effort, or needed talent to awaken Rinnegan and summon the Mazo.

Getting the Rinnegan let him break the seal and summon the Gedo Mazo.

 

[TheSageOfNinetails]

Edo Nagato would actually have been useless seeing how edo tensei was released before Madara even joined the final battle.

 

[AllomnisymbolsparttwoT]

This only shows that anyone who awakened Rinnegan at that time could have broken the seal, as Madara was able to do so right after obtaining it.

Give someone a key and he unlocks a door. Is he talented because he had the key that let him unlock the door? lol, no. You act like he had to put in all this hard work and effort, or needed talent to awaken Rinnegan and summon the Mazo.

Getting the Rinnegan let him break the seal and summon the Gedo Mazo.

you're failing to see the point, as I said earlier, Madara broke a seal that is rikudo leveled, Nagato COULD NOT make a rikudo leveled seal, Here he admits it

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[KidGamer65]

you're failing to see the point, as I said earlier, Madara broke a seal that is rikudo leveled, Nagato COULD NOT make a rikudo leveled seal, Here he admits it

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Making a Rikudo level seal=/=Breaking a Rikudo level seal. You aren't making sense here. By your logic Madara could make a moon since Nagato admitted he couldn't do so.

All that was needed to break the seal and summon the Mazo is the Rinnegan. Its not as complicated as you make it seem in order to hype up Madara.

 

[illidanson]

Edo Nagato was strong, like really, really strong.

All the six paths power in one body and unlimited chakra is just a ridiculously OP combo.

I'd definitely say they'd stand a fair chance if they had Nagato on their side.

 

[UchihaNagashi]

With Nagato's help, Obito would've been beaten or put into a very critical state at least.

But Edo Madara & Obito and Gedou Mazou > Nagato, Naruto, Killer B, Guy and Kakashi.

 

[Transcendence]

Obito probably would have lost before Madara arrived, yes. BM Naruto+Healthy Nagato+Bee alone would be enough to take Obito.