[Discussion] Would Kakashi now be able to become intangible?

[thegame]

Up till this point, Kakashi has used his Kamui on his opponent or a different target to send that target to an alternate dimension.
Have you ever seen Kakashi use his MS on himself? And to teleport to a location OTHER than whatever dimension his Kamui accesses?
I think not. Kakashi has undoubtedly done something new, and what he has done can potentially lead to something more. It is all pure speculation of course, but it is reasonable none the less.

No that is highly doubtable that he would be able to use his Kamui through other parts of his body like Obito does. The way they work are as different as tsukuyomi and amaterasu, they are just connected by the same dimension. I have tried to explain exactly how Kakashis kamui works in another thread, but to make it very short. Kakashi can't just absorb whatever he wants. He opens a "portal" to the other dimension, and he needs to focus a lot of chakra to keep it open. The larger it is, the harder it is to keep it open.

This means he cannot "directly" absorb something big that is moving fast. He has to focus on a given point that the object will be in within the time it takes for him to open the portal at that location. When the object enters the area where the portal is, it will start absorbing. However, if the portal is too small the object will take longer to absorb. If Kakashi can't maintain the portal for long enough it will result in the portal "closing", thus if a part of that enemy is inside the portal that part will be ripped off. Like when Deidara had his arm ripped off, kakashis couldn't maintain the jutsu long enough to absorb it, thus it closed on his arm - ripping it off.

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[Typhon]

No that is highly doubtable that he would be able to use his Kamui through other parts of his body like Obito does. The way they work are as different as tsukuyomi and amaterasu, they are just connected by the same dimension. I have tried to explain exactly how Kakashis kamui works in another thread, but to make it very short. Kakashi can't just absorb whatever he wants. He opens a "portal" to the other dimension, and he needs to focus a lot of chakra to keep it open. The larger it is, the harder it is to keep it open.

This means he cannot "directly" absorb something big that is moving fast. He has to focus on a given point that the object will be in within the time it takes for him to open the portal at that location. When the object enters the area where the portal is, it will start absorbing. However, if the portal is too small the object will take longer to absorb. If Kakashi can't maintain the portal for long enough it will result in the portal "closing", thus if a part of that enemy is inside the portal that part will be ripped off. Like when Deidara had his arm ripped off, kakashis couldn't maintain the jutsu long enough to absorb it, thus it closed on his arm - ripping it off.

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is the thread I made on Kamui using the databook and examples from the manga.

I'm not too sure about this. Unlike Amaterasu and Tsukiyomi, two obviously different techniques, Obito calls his technique Kamui as well when he tells Kakashi that he'll show him what a true Kamui is like.

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Also, we've seen that not all MS techniques are restricted to a specific eye as both Danzo and Itachi's crow were able to use Kotoamatsukami despite being different eyes. Since both of these examples are when people only possessed one of the two eyes, perhaps there's something about having only one eye that changes how techniques can be used. Or maybe the eye specific-ness is just a characteristic of Amaterasu and Tsukiyomi.

 

[thegame]

I'm not too sure about this. Unlike Amaterasu and Tsukiyomi, two obviously different techniques, Obito calls his technique Kamui as well when he tells Kakashi that he'll show him what a true Kamui is like.

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Also, we've seen that not all MS techniques are restricted to a specific eye as both Danzo and Itachi's crow were able to use Kotoamatsukami despite being different eyes. Since both of these examples are when people only possessed one of the two eyes, perhaps there's something about having only one eye that changes how techniques can be used. Or maybe the eye specific-ness is just a characteristic of Amaterasu and Tsukiyomi.

Yes I was just over-exaggerating when saying they are like the sun and the moon, but that isn't the point. Yes they are both called Kamui as well as both Shisuis eyes contained Kotoamatsukami, but this is just the initial effect of the jutsu is the same, the way they are used are completely different. Now we don't know about Kotoamatsukami since we have too little details on how Danzo uses it, but I really doubt it would be in the exact same way as the one Itachi used. But the overall difference may be the same as with Danzo.

We never saw Danzo needing to show his eye. It is likely to believe that the way he used it on Mifune wasn't through the eye, though the eye of course is still what controls the jutsu, but he may as well has set it off with body contact or something. Like a greetings through a hand shake or whatever.

 

[ltachl]

Only after he takes on Tobi's eye (which he will hand to kakashi willingly again).

 

[Cogzzworth]

Kakashi just needs more control and chakra for it to work.

 

[sLm]

At the moment Kakashi used Kamui to teleport himself, all the theories about both eyes having different powers have gone down. Now I'm pretty sure Kakashi can also fade away and teleport to other places, definitely last chapter showed a new skill, no doubt.

 

[6PathsofKami]

Nah the one that Kakashi has teleports things without contact and probably thats it opposite of Obitos which needs contact with things so thats why his body parts can move.

 

[Namikaze Haru]

my theory is that obito will die and handover his other eye to kakashi....... which then can make him intangible...

then kakashi would suffer even more from chakra drainage unless he obtains senju dna

 

[Artaya]

There might be something to do with Obito's DNA that lets him "walk" in both dimensions simultaneously. Kakashi did a full body Kamui, but considering the effort required of him to use Kamui I don't think he'll be able to do this in battle as effectively as Obito. Also, he isn't in both locations; only one or the other, so he can't "see" the battlefield from the other dimension. This creates a lot of tactical problems for himself. I don't think he can do partial teleportation either without dismembering himself.

 

[Makaveli The Don]

Yeah but is he going to take out his current eye and then put it the other one...because if he had both then he'd have to walk around with a forehead protector covering both eyes. lol

lol i said the same thing in another thread

 

[Superior]

No that is highly doubtable that he would be able to use his Kamui through other parts of his body like Obito does. The way they work are as different as tsukuyomi and amaterasu, they are just connected by the same dimension. I have tried to explain exactly how Kakashis kamui works in another thread, but to make it very short. Kakashi can't just absorb whatever he wants. He opens a "portal" to the other dimension, and he needs to focus a lot of chakra to keep it open. The larger it is, the harder it is to keep it open.

This means he cannot "directly" absorb something big that is moving fast. He has to focus on a given point that the object will be in within the time it takes for him to open the portal at that location. When the object enters the area where the portal is, it will start absorbing. However, if the portal is too small the object will take longer to absorb. If Kakashi can't maintain the portal for long enough it will result in the portal "closing", thus if a part of that enemy is inside the portal that part will be ripped off. Like when Deidara had his arm ripped off, kakashis couldn't maintain the jutsu long enough to absorb it, thus it closed on his arm - ripping it off.

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is the thread I made on Kamui using the databook and examples from the manga.

Your entire response was well and good, but it ignored the main point of my post. In the last chapter Kakashi used his Kamui to teleport himself out of the alternate dimension, and back to the battlefield, not just the dimension his Kamui accesses. You claim his Kamui absorbs his target and sends it to said alternate dimension, which is true; but what Kakashi has recently done shows us that his Kamui is not limited to only that ability.
How do you explain Kakashi's use of Kamui to teleport like Tobi does?