would all this have happened if rin was not dead??

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Not Rin's fault.. Its that darn rocks fault, the one that hit Kakashi in the head when he was escaping the cave. If Obito didn't "Die". He wouldn't have turned evil, wouldn' have to meet Madara, Nagato would still be good, Minato & Kushina wouldn't die, jiraiya wouldn't die, Asuma wouldn't be dead (since akatsuki wouldn't have criminal members like Hidan, Kakuzu etc.) no 4. Ninja war, unless Kabuto would be the one to declare the war. I bet there still is some things i forgot to mention xD
 
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Wouldn't that kinda mean that this f***er is responsible for everything that's happened so far ? xd

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heh. can't rlly say. This makes me want to go back to Obito's near death state and ask if all that was just a coincidence. Of all places to be half-crushed by a rock it happens to be somewhere near madara's underground lair-thingy. Although im pretty sure if Rin wasnt actually dead madara would of wanted to appeal to Obito by casting an illusion of her death until he could find a way to really kill her.
 
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