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Vegeto30294

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The thing with Susanoo (and MS in general) is that it should have been rare, it just so happened that all Uchihas we've seen in action have MS, and 3 of them use Susanoo. I do believe that most Uchihas didn't have it but the story focused on those who do.

At least Madara didn't always rely on using Susano'o for the simplest of tasks. Susano'o was meant to be an extension of your limbs, not a replacement
 

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Rinnegan-------that shit is boring for me now
 

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Rasengan (overused)
Susanoo (boring)
 

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Amaterasu was so freaking broken Kishi wrote himself into multiple walls trying to counter it.

Black flames that never die out. Smart Kishi. Real smart. It just set the tone for where the manga's power levels were going to go and how illogical things would get. Amaterasu is a fictional nightmare.
 

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Obito's (Forget Kakashi) Kamui is the most hacks technique in the whole NV.

Susanoo went and made Uchiha's (Mainly Sasuke) boring Ninja's to watch fight.

Izanagi and Izanami were complete asspulls.

Substitution jutsu had (If yore talking about logs) the making to be hacks but was just dropped. When was the last time we seen anyone use it? Can anyone tell me that?

The rest I can live with.
 

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Really ?

Instead of complaining take a minute to actually understand the justu in question.

Rinnetensei is a jsutu of the sage (It is already meant to be a godly justu it came from someone revered as a god,kishi purposely gave a nagato angelic musical theme to reinforce it) can only be performed with those with the same dna and even with that DNA it is never certain you will unlock the rinengan anyway.

Kamui depends on the mass its in-taking and getting your target is difficult if its motion and if its in motion & alive.
Kakashi has never successfully killed anyone with it that is how OP it is.


I could go on,but correcting everyone would take all day
 

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Shadow Clone Jutsu

Mizubunshin
Exploding Kage Bunshin

are awesome.

But Madara is right. Naruto does multiply his incompetence.
 

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Substitution. Asspulled shit. Over-used and abused in the first part, completely ignored in the whole war and most of the 2nd part. Idiotic jutsu which is just like some kind of Izanagi.
 

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Amaterasu was so freaking broken Kishi wrote himself into multiple walls trying to counter it.

Black flames that never die out. Smart Kishi. Real smart. It just set the tone for where the manga's power levels were going to go and how illogical things would get. Amaterasu is a fictional nightmare.

Just because it can't be extinguished doesn't mean its broken.

When we first saw it guess what happened ?

jiraiya sealed it.

Next time we saw it in action Killer Bee cut off the tail being burned.
The next time we saw it A literally just straight up dodged it point blank.
Nagato gets hit with it and he uses shinra tensei to expel it off his body.

Having the flames itself go out is not the only way to counter it.

OT: See what you did ?!!!

Uniformed raging everywhere !!!
 

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Really ?

Instead of complaining take a minute to actually understand the justu in question.

Rinnetensei is a jsutu of the sage (It is already meant to be a godly justu it came from someone revered as a god,kishi purposely gave a nagato angelic musical theme to reinforce it) can only be performed with those with the same dna and even with that DNA it is never certain you will unlock the rinengan anyway.

Kamui depends on the mass its in-taking and getting your target is difficult if its motion and if its in motion & alive.
Kakashi has never successfully killed anyone with it that is how OP it is.


I could go on,but correcting everyone would take all day
Correcting? That's called your opinion.

You think I haven't thought this through? Kamui is just a move that should be used sparingly and DOES have limitations but because of the context and the situations the writer puts him in those limitations barely ever apply. It made him think he could one-shot the 10 tails. the TEN TAILS. That's some character-ruining stuff for me when characters abilities start getting boring and their personalities become cocky.

Rinne Tensei is a deus ex machina and that is it. I don't understand how anybody can stand up for this nothing jutsu :')
 

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Substitution. Asspulled shit. Over-used and abused in the first part, completely ignored in the whole war and most of the 2nd part. Idiotic jutsu which is just like some kind of Izanagi.


You got to be kidding me.

Why would high class nin use such a low class justu ?

Don't tell me your the guy i had to correct a while back the one who think you can get hit then it automatically replaces you with a block of wood while magically healing your wounds lol

Its a justu that uses slight of hand no viable chuunin or any jonin would be fooled by that justu

And the shunshin is way faster and covers more ground.
 

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You got to be kidding me.

Why would high class nin use such a low class justu ?

Don't tell me your the guy i had to correct a while back the one who think you can get hit then it automatically replaces you with a block of wood while magically healing your wounds lol

Its a justu that uses slight of hand no viable chuunin or any jonin would be fooled by that justu

And the shunshin is way faster and covers more ground.

lol do you even know what this thread is about
 

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Correcting? That's called your opinion.

You think I haven't thought this through? Kamui is just a move that should be used sparingly and DOES have limitations but because of the context and the situations the writer puts him in those limitations barely ever apply. It made him think he could one-shot the 10 tails. the TEN TAILS. That's some character-ruining stuff for me when characters abilities start getting boring and their personalities become cocky.

Rinne Tensei is a deus ex machina and that is it. I don't understand how anybody can stand up for this nothing jutsu :')



Opinion ? No,what i am saying is fact.

You can look up the interview of kishi yourself he picked nagato's theme to reinforce his godly image.
The sage was revered as a god manipulating life and death is a power of a god.
The amount of people who can even use this justu cannot even be counted on one hand.

And Kamui's success does depend on the mass it wants to relocate.
And a moving target is harder to hit then a stationary one and someone who is alive is harder to hit because they can attempt to attack you back while moving while an inanimate object cannot.

So no you have not thought anything through and now your confusing the word opinion with fact.
Just stop.
 

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Just because it can't be extinguished doesn't mean its broken.

When we first saw it guess what happened ?

jiraiya sealed it.

Next time we saw it in action Killer Bee cut off the tail being burned.
The next time we saw it A literally just straight up dodged it point blank.
Nagato gets hit with it and he uses shinra tensei to expel it off his body.

Having the flames itself go out is not the only way to counter it.

OT: See what you did ?!!!

Uniformed raging everywhere !!!

It's true that the sealing that was done was indeed a hint to how to fight against it, but that was amaterasu dormant. Unmoving and not being used in combat. Kishi did not actually develop that any further IIRC. And it's becoming quite obvious that seals in general have almost no real explanations to them. Some of them are given "ancient" status to avoid going further.

As it stands, Amaterasu is still rather broken. The only method of countering it directly is not exactly conventional. Nagato had to use the powers of a dojutsu only a handful of individuals have ever unlocked, all of this in part 2. Amaterasu is a part 1 technique!

Just say it out loud. Near-eternal black flames. When writing techniques into a story, there should always be a taboo. Something that takes away from it directly or in passing. Those counters need to be established fully. The only taboo to the amaterasu was that it was an MS technique and you could go blind. But even that was eliminated with the EMS.

It's pretty busted.
 

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Opinion ? No,what i am saying is fact.

You can look up the interview of kishi yourself he picked nagato's theme to reinforce his godly image.
The sage was revered as a god manipulating life and death is a power of a god.
The amount of people who can even use this justu cannot even be counted on one hand.

And Kamui's success does depend on the mass it wants to relocate.
And a moving target is harder to hit then a stationary one and someone who is alive is harder to hit because they can attempt to attack you back while moving while an inanimate object cannot.

So no you have not thought anything through and now your confusing the word opinion with fact.
Just stop.

You don't have a clue what this thread is about.

Stop acting so self-righteous and stop spouting 'facts' because this is an opinion thread, it's about writing and the jutsu from a storytelling perspective and their role and impact in the power levels or story.

Kamui is a jutsu used badly by Kishimoto because of the times we see it it's mostly under circumstances where it can be used whenever and it changes KAKASHIS PERSONALITY.
 

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You got to be kidding me.

Why would high class nin use such a low class justu ?

Don't tell me your the guy i had to correct a while back the one who think you can get hit then it automatically replaces you with a block of wood while magically healing your wounds lol

Its a justu that uses slight of hand no viable chuunin or any jonin would be fooled by that justu

And the shunshin is way faster and covers more ground.
Low class ninjutsu? It works better than a Shadow Clone jutsu and it's like Izanagi. Basically, like Izanagi, when you're hit fatally or get wounded you can simply replace yourself with a wooden and boom, nothing happened. Like Izanagi, imagine nothing happened and boom, everything's normal. It's not about getting fooled, it's about transporting your soul / body somewhere out of the danger area. Obviously it's not Shunshin level, but rather a jutsu almost anyone, as you said, can make use of to escape certain death. What if Neji used it when he was attacked fatally by those things? The wooden would have taken all the damage and Neji would have escaped.

And no, I haven't discussed anything with you before.
 

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Low class ninjutsu? It works better than a Shadow Clone jutsu and it's like Izanagi. Basically, like Izanagi, when you're hit fatally or get wounded you can simply replace yourself with a wooden and boom, nothing happened. Like Izanagi, imagine nothing happened and boom, everything's normal. It's not about getting fooled, it's about transporting your soul / body somewhere out of the danger area. Obviously it's not Shunshin level, but rather a jutsu almost anyone, as you said, can make use of to escape certain death. What if Neji used it when he was attacked fatally by those things? The wooden would have taken all the damage and Neji would have escaped.

And no, I haven't discussed anything with you before.

I totally agree- I think we have to forgive Kishi for his earlier stuff though, back before he knew the tone of the series. I think it's good they slowly phased out that jutsu.
 
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