[Discussion] Working To Live Or Living To Work?

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"I've read a study yesterday.
It said that last year more than half of us actually chose not to take our full vacations from our jobs.

Question:
Don’t you think it’s crazy that so many of us are going to work even we don’t need to be there?
Times we could be on the beach buried in sand or travelling the earth, we spend it in the office traveling from desk to desk, buried in paper work.

See, in this chaotic world where everything goes so fast. We’re so busy! Seems like everyone’s middle name is “multitask”.
But now, before you go and act all ´holier than thou´
How many extra tabs do you have opened on your computer, right now?
See, we all need them get away from the race for our family, friends, for the sake of our mental state.

Time to rewind, recharge, reconnect.

No reporting to the office on e-mails that should be on redirect.
Because life, ladies and gentlemen, is all about moments.
No one on history’s ever been able to hold on to one, not a single soul, and you never get them back. See? There one goes.
No do over, no rewind, no DVD root menu to skip to a previous scene.

Ask yourself:

How many trips did you almost take?
How many sights have you almost seen?
How many moments have you lost thinking about the next one?
Thinking that once you get this or you get there maybe that would be the best one
Life has taught me that all we will ever have is now.

Let me be perfectly clear. I’m not saying: quit your job. Even though I know you deserve a six-month vacation twice a year… But how about small steps?
Short trips with long dances, no distractions.
Spend the time with family instead of co-workers, meditation instead or aggravation, replace our screensavers with sunrises, palm pilots with palm trees , jammed copy machines with… . Man, I really hate jammed copy machines.

The most precious thing we have in life are moments.
Let´s make the most of them before they disappear. Let´s see the world while we still can and cherish those while they´re still here.
Because when our lives are almost over, it won’t matter how much money we made, or hours we worked, times we got “employee of the month”.

What we´ll look back on are the memories we made , the hours we spent with those we loved, and were we father of the month, mother of the year, friend of a life time.
Holidays should be a time where we go away and come together. From now on let´s take a whole vacation and be fully present, creating memories that will last forever."

 

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Yeah we work to live...most of us. Depends on your job. Those few lucky ones who actually love what they do for work. Or their work is their dream in in life live to work.

The rest of us...work to live
 

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We are working to earn money so that we can afford the food to live. Not to mention you need to pay rent,bills,study loan,car etc :nuts: and yeah that's why we are living to work. XD It is cycle man lol.
 

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woah.. If you mean realist, then yes.

Kagetora going full retard again
You completely missed the point in life. Are you sure you're not the one who went full retard?
Nobody lives to work but everyone works to live. That's the purpose of doing work in the first place.
 

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You completely missed the point in life. Are you sure you're not the one who went full retard?
Nobody lives to work but everyone works to live. That's the purpose of doing work in the first place.
You're thinking like a well-groomed modern day paycheck slave. Well done.
Our species really has been dumbed down quite efficiently.
You're the one that has to realize we have been conditioned to think the way you do and to live the way we do.
 
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I'm assuming this is the study or a similar one to what he's talking about.

It said on average we were offered 15 days, and only took 11. About 71% of Americans would rather make more money than take time off anyway. That makes sense because we're capitalists. Our American dream is even based on hard work=desired results="pursuit" (key word) of happiness.

It's really more of a cultural thing than anything. Some people pointed out responsibilities and stuff but most jobs nowadays give you PTO so you wouldnt miss out too much (exept overtime) taking all your vacation days.

Idk. Being a hard worker myself I don't see anything wrong with it. I get the idea behind it but if people aren't working to make a living here in America then they'll likely devote their lives to work in order to better themselves. When you're poor you work to live and make a better situation for yourself. When you're in a better situation you devote your life to reaching your true goals which takes hard work. We work to live and live to work nothing wrong with either one it's just progression and drive

Edit: The study has a breakdown of other countries too
 

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You're thinking like a well-groomed modern day paycheck slave. Well done.
Our species really has been dumbed down quite efficiently.
Yet I work when I want where I want with no schedule or boss and you're the one who gets up in the morning, how ****ing ironic.
 

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Yet I work when I want where I want with no schedule or boss and you're the one who gets up in the morning, how ****ing ironic.
Nice try. I rented a room for a while in the house of a business lady who runs her own counselling agency. I helped her with her administration from time to time and even though she decides when and where she works, she still gets up at 7am every day to keep track of her work and appointments. She pays a sh1tload amount of taxes so she might be earning not more than a couple hundred more than my mum who works for the city councle.

And even if you were successful, carreer wise, you're still a slave to the babylonian game of generating money like the obedient worker that you are. No irony there, whatsoever.
 

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Nice try. I rented a room for a while in the house of a business lady who runs her own counselling agency. I helped her with her administration from time to time and even though she decides when and where she works, she still gets up at 7am every day to keep track of her work and appointments. She pays a sh1tload amount of taxes so she might be earning not more than a couple hundred more than my mum who works for the city councle.

And even if you were successful, carreer wise, you're still a slave to the babylonian game of generating money like the obedient worker that you are. No irony there, whatsoever.
So making money means you're a slave, hey whatever you're smoking keep doing it. I go to sleep when I want and wake up when I want. I have time to spend with my family and hobbies. Newsflash, if you're to live in a society you're expected to contribute to it no matter who you are. If you don't you're cast out and have to beg on the street. It's not slavery, it's just reality, you don't have to do shit if you don't want to but society is not obligated to drag you along either. If you like anarchy and want to live in the wild go ahead but I prefer a life where my needs are aleady taken care of. It doesn't make me a slave, you're just projecting your insecurity and obsession with this slave-labelling. However, I don't give a shit what you think, keep living in fear with your conspiracy theories that fill your head with garbage and I will live my life to the fullest on my own terms because I can.
 

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So making money means you're a slave, hey whatever you're smoking keep doing it. I go to sleep when I want and wake up when I want. I have time to spend with my family and hobbies. Newsflash, if you're to live in a society you're expected to contribute to it no matter who you are. If you don't you're cast out and have to beg on the street. It's not slavery, it's just reality, you don't have to do shit if you don't want to but society is not obligated to drag you along either. If you like anarchy and want to live in the wild go ahead but I prefer a life where my needs are aleady taken care of. It doesn't make me a slave, you're just projecting your insecurity and obsession with this slave-labelling. However, I don't give a shit what you think, keep living in fear with your conspiracy theories that fill your head with garbage and I will live my life to the fullest on my own terms because I can.
Actually, it is both and it is a global issue that is not solvable. That does not mean that we aren't products. Feel free to turn a blind eye. Not that you'd have the capacity to comprehend this. I don't know where you get your confidence from but it's quite amusing :p Take care and goodluck with your business, whatever you're doing.
 

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I say this quite often in reallife. We live to work. Not the other way around.
In my opinion, both are ****ed up. Both basically boil down to placing a pricetag on our right to live, which is just...idk I've always felt like one should earn luxuries, not life.

So making money means you're a slave, hey whatever you're smoking keep doing it. I go to sleep when I want and wake up when I want. I have time to spend with my family and hobbies. Newsflash, if you're to live in a society you're expected to contribute to it no matter who you are. If you don't you're cast out and have to beg on the street. It's not slavery, it's just reality, you don't have to do shit if you don't want to but society is not obligated to drag you along either. If you like anarchy and want to live in the wild go ahead but I prefer a life where my needs are aleady taken care of. It doesn't make me a slave, you're just projecting your insecurity and obsession with this slave-labelling. However, I don't give a shit what you think, keep living in fear with your conspiracy theories that fill your head with garbage and I will live my life to the fullest on my own terms because I can.
You're a slave because, in a world that spans hundreds of countries, you've been conditioned into thinking that living is spending most of your time confined to one city so someone higher up than you can get paid while you lap up whatever trickles down from their leftovers. Everyone has a price tag on their life because of the way humanity have set themselves up. You're a slave because you're okay with this.
 
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