Wondered this for awhile

[Ebottif]

Sorry if this has already been answered- searched and couldn't find anything. After Sasuke's final battle with Deidara (the one where Deidara blew himself up), the Akatsuki regroups to talk about what happened. Zetsu says Sasuke is also dead. Pain says he is leaving to mourn Deidara's death alone. Everyone else leaves after him.

Later in the episode we revisit Itachi and Kisame. Itachi walks out in the rain and looks up. Kisame comments that it looks like he's crying and sorry about Sasuke. Then the rain stops and Itachi says his brother isn't dead.

Was there something between Pain and Itachi? Did he know that the latter loved his younger brother and was trying to convey the message? I can't think of another reason why the rain would stop. And how would Pain know in the first place? It wasn't raining in the scene immediately before as Sasuke got out of the snake he hid in.

By the way, all of this happens in episode 125.

 

[saaaaaadpanda]

Unless Kisame and Itachi were in the Hidden Rain village (I don't remember), Pain didn't necessarily have anything to do with it. It could easily be a visual dramatization.

Also, anime's not canon, so there's that.

 

[Super Beast Scroll]

Well nagato and itachi are pals.

 

[~Dream~]

What?

 

[Ebottif]

Nope. It's in the manga as well:

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[Ebottif]

Nope. It's in the manga as well:

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[Allseeingeye]

What?

what he said

 

[Sasunarufan13]

Hm, I've wondered about that as well. The rain could have been added for dramatical effect - manga is prone to do that.
As for Itachi knowing that Sasuke survived - I assume it's because he believes so much in his brother, that he was sure Sasuke would get very strong that he couldn't do anything else but believe that his brother survived. That Sasuke was smart/strong enough to deceive Deidara and find a way to escape the fight with his life, contrarily to Deidara. I wouldn't know any other explanation than the trust of a big brother in his younger sibling, sorry

 

[Elementalist]

dramatization.........I think

 

[Ebottif]

Hm, I've wondered about that as well. The rain could have been added for dramatical effect - manga is prone to do that.
As for Itachi knowing that Sasuke survived - I assume it's because he believes so much in his brother, that he was sure Sasuke would get very strong that he couldn't do anything else but believe that his brother survived. That Sasuke was smart/strong enough to deceive Deidara and find a way to escape the fight with his life, contrarily to Deidara. I wouldn't know any other explanation than the trust of a big brother in his younger sibling, sorry

If it ends up being for dramatic effect I'm going to be very disappointed. Does anyone know where that hand statue that they always would meet at is located? I'm trying to find it now..

 

[saaaaaadpanda]

Nope. It's in the manga as well:

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Ok, good cite. However, it wasn't in the Hidden Rain where Nagato/Pain was assumed to be, so it's likely just dramatization.

 

[nika1994]

i'll help you out here buddy for those that did not get the question. Hw did itachi know that sasuke was not dead?

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as Itachi states here he can't sense chakra to track down other people "i have no such ability" so and as Zetsu had never been wrong before he should've believed him. So something happened, might have something to do with the rain that made him realize that sasuke was alive. Good catch. Never paid any extra attention to that

 

[Ebottif]

i'll help you out here buddy for those that did not get the question. Hw did itachi know that sasuke was not dead?

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as Itachi states here he can't sense chakra to track down other people "i have no such ability" so and as Zetsu had never been wrong before he should've believed him. So something happened, might have something to do with the rain that made him realize that sasuke was alive. Good catch. Never paid any extra attention to that

Exactly! So you understand why I'm wondering this. Especially when Kisame says "It's odd for it to be raining so much here, especially at this time of year" >.>

 

[Ebottif]

Okay, I know I'm not supposed to double post but I just found this on the Naruto Wiki:


"After accepting the terms of Kabuto Yakushi's alliance, Tobi reveals the statue located within the depths of their headquarters, seated atop of a giant lotus flower, whose stem harbours a copy of Hashirama Senju. Directing Kabuto's vision downwards to the flower's roots, housed in a deeper underground cave, Tobi presents the army of enhanced White Zetsu that he had created using the chakra of the tailed beasts imprisoned within the statue."

Aren't the Akatsuki's headquarters in the Hidden Rain Village?

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(It says it after "Shinobi World War Arc" subsection)

 

[YowYan]

Thats actually pretty sharp of you

 

[Ebottif]

Thats actually pretty sharp of you

Well, thank you xd But none of my observations answer the questions I'm raising. They just bring up more.

If it is in the Hidden Rain Village, why would it be unusual for it to be raining? And how would Pain know Sasuke was alive? And why haven't we found out that Nagato and Itachi had this understanding yet? Is this a plot hole?

 

[nika1994]

Well, thank you xd But none of my observations answer the questions I'm raising. They just bring up more.

If it is in the Hidden Rain Village, why would it be unusual for it to be raining? And how would Pain know Sasuke was alive? And why haven't we found out that Nagato and Itachi had this understanding yet? Is this a plot hole?

yeah but i'm not sure if Itachi and Kisame were in the Hidden Rain Village. Lt me check.
yeah they're there, but pain is not, even though he's in the village. i m talking about the base. i have to assume that the base that they were in was somewhere else. Plus they said Tobi died too. and talked about thim like the goofy tobi he acted as, but here's the curious part. of the peole in the akatsuki that were in that room, all of them knew the real identity of Tobi, and knew that he was "Madara" yet they still talked of him as nothing. A mistake on Kishi's end maybe?

 

[Ebottif]

yeah but i'm not sure if Itachi and Kisame were in the Hidden Rain Village. Lt me check.
yeah they're there, but pain is not, even though he's in the village. i m talking about the base. i have to assume that the base that they were in was somewhere else. Plus they said Tobi died too. and talked about thim like the goofy tobi he acted as, but here's the curious part. of the peole in the akatsuki that were in that room, all of them knew the real identity of Tobi, and knew that he was "Madara" yet they still talked of him as nothing. A mistake on Kishi's end maybe?

No. This was before anyone thought he was Madara. They just should he was some random guy.

And Pain and Konan are definitely in the Hidden Rain here:

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Actually, they hardly ever leave the Hidden Rain.

EDIT: Sorry, for some reason I thought you had said Pain wasn't in the Hidden Rain whilst this was happening. What I need is something that says the Akatsuki headquarters are considered to be in the Hidden Rain.

 

[nika1994]

No. This was before anyone thought he was Madara. They just should he was some random guy.

And Pain and Konan are definitely in the Hidden Rain here:

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Actually, they hardly ever leave the Hidden Rain.

no i meant they werent in the hideout i know they were in the village. hideout must be somewhere else cause kisame said it rarely rained there and Itachi and kisame were physically in the hideout, while konan and pain only via imaging.
and i said "Madara". of the members in akatsuki that were left e.g. itachi, Kisame, zetsu, pain and konan, they all knew the true ientity of tobi, yet spoke none of it. i understand if deidara was there, or hidan and kakuzu cause it's not confirmed if they knew, but...

 

[Ebottif]

no i meant they werent in the hideout i know they were in the village. hideout must be somewhere else cause kisame said it rarely rained there and Itachi and kisame were physically in the hideout, while konan and pain only via imaging.
and i said "Madara". of the members in akatsuki that were left e.g. itachi, Kisame, zetsu, pain and konan, they all knew the true ientity of tobi, yet spoke none of it. i understand if deidara was there, or hidan and kakuzu cause it's not confirmed if they knew, but...

Where does it say they knew?

Also, IF the Hidden Rain is their headquarters then Itachi/Kisame had to be in the Hidden Rain. Did you not read what I quoted from the Naruto wiki? Tobi reveals the statue to be in the Akatsuki headquarters.

EDIT: Unless it meant Tobi's or Kabuto's or something. Do they have headquarters?