Without CS Sasuke would've died EP 1

[Blaze Release]

I'm not saying Sasuke is a cheat! I'm saying that Naruto isn't. The point of the CS battles is to show Sasuke doesn't rely on his natural abilities.

This to me says it all.
The dude has no idea what he is talking about

 

[sG Taka]

here is where you're misunderstanding the power of the CS...the CS doesn't give you chakra you didn't have before. Its just like the Opening of the Gates in that it forces the chakra you already have out in full force...so in essence, yes Sasuke was relying on natural ability since the power given to him by the CS was his own chakra...just forces out at unhealthy levels

and the kyyubi is no more natural to Naruto than the heart of a hart transplant patient...in both cases it wasn't something they're born with but given to them after

No, you're wrong.

Like all Cursed Seals, the user receives increased chakra levels and physical capabilities when the seal is active. -Narutowikia

The seal gives more chakra to the user.

 

[sG Taka]

This to me says it all.
The dude has no idea what he is talking about

Stop trying to make me look bad when your last post clearly showed that you didn't understand the thread. Why? Provide a decent argument and then we'll see who doesn't know what they're talking about.

In any case, where both Naruto and Sasuke are cheats, I believe Sasuke is more of a cheat than Naruto. If you disagree fine, but don't go about trying to make me look bad when you can't even provide a proper argument.

 

[Blaze Release]

Stop trying to make me look bad when your last post clearly showed that you didn't understand the thread. Why? Provide a decent argument and then we'll see who doesn't know what they're talking about.

In any case, where both Naruto and Sasuke are cheats, I believe Sasuke is more of a cheat than Naruto. If you disagree fine, but don't go about trying to make me look bad when you can't even provide a proper argument.

If I wasn't on my phone I'd obliterate your argument.
Either way you have none tbh

 

[Tarheel09]

yep good job.

they have both used what was given to them to the most of their abilities...sasuke his CS and Sharingan and Naruto the kyuubi. It's who they are. It's not a cheat its something they were both born with in there genes at a young age or given to at an extremely young age (exception the curse seal, but sasuke didn't really have a choice)

It's who they are, it has helped develop the show so people, shut up where would the show be without the CS and the kyuubi...oh yea thats right we wouldn't hav one

 

[ReXii]

Stop trying to make me look bad when your last post clearly showed that you didn't understand the thread. Why? Provide a decent argument and then we'll see who doesn't know what they're talking about.

In any case, where both Naruto and Sasuke are cheats, I believe Sasuke is more of a cheat than Naruto. If you disagree fine, but don't go about trying to make me look bad when you can't even provide a proper argument.

Naruto has had extra chakra due to the ninetails influence since the very start of the show

As the Nine-Tails' jinchūriki, Naruto is gifted with its enormous supply of chakra and stamina, to which Kakashi estimated it to be a hundred times greater than his own when its influence is not suppressed.[25] It also gives Naruto accelerated healing (recovering from minor injuries within a few seconds to major injuries within a day) and depending on the amount of the Nine-Tails' chakra he's using, Naruto is also given an increase in strength, speed, and his healing factor to such levels that he recovered from a Chidori strike through his chest in mere seconds. At times, he is also granted a nearly impenetrable, fox-shaped chakra shroud.

Evidence from naruto wiki

So i guess you saying sasuke cheats more is invalid since sasuke has to activate CS

Naruto constantly has extra chakra without doing anything

 

[sG Taka]

If I wasn't on my phone I'd obliterate your argument.
Either way you have none tbh

I have none? Okay, please keep commenting so people can see how stupid you are.

 

[HBKJames]

the kyuubi is no different than the CS

both powers are given after birth, not naturally given at birth
both are given by way of a seal
both can be taken away via breaking the seal
both require a level of control to use and will and or emotion to use

 

[sG Taka]

yep good job.

they have both used what was given to them to the most of their abilities...sasuke his CS and Sharingan and Naruto the kyuubi. It's who they are. It's not a cheat its something they were both born with in there genes at a young age or given to at an extremely young age (exception the curse seal, but sasuke didn't really have a choice)

It's who they are, it has helped develop the show so people, shut up where would the show be without the CS and the kyuubi...oh yea thats right we wouldn't hav one

I think you're the only one who has understood this thread...

 

[Blaze Release]

I have none? Okay, please keep commenting so people can see how stupid you are.

You really don't. Actually laughable tbh

 

[sG Taka]

the kyuubi is no different than the CS

both powers are given after birth, not naturally given at birth
both are given by way of a seal
both can be taken away via breaking the seal
both require a level of control to use and will and or emotion to use

Are you sure the person can live after this? I mean, what would've happen if the seal would have broken against Pain? The Nine-Tails would've taken full control of Naruto.

 

[HBKJames]

yep good job.

they have both used what was given to them to the most of their abilities...sasuke his CS and Sharingan and Naruto the kyuubi. It's who they are. It's not a cheat its something they were both born with in there genes at a young age or given to at an extremely young age (exception the curse seal, but sasuke didn't really have a choice)

It's who they are, it has helped develop the show so people, shut up where would the show be without the CS and the kyuubi...oh yea thats right we wouldn't hav one

Naruto wasn't born with the kyuubi...it was given to him after his birth by a seal

 

[HBKJames]

Are you sure the person can live after this? I mean, what would've happen if the seal would have broken against Pain? The Nine-Tails would've taken full control of Naruto.

a normal person might not live after the process but as we've seen with his mother Kushina Uzumaki...the Uzumaki clan are different and can survive having the kyuubi extracted from them

 

[Kyuubikiller]

It almost makes me laugh at how some of you are bickering like children over something so damn stupid. So what Naruto uses the fox, so what Sasuke uses cs, they are abilities given to them and it'd be stupid not to use them. If you guys want to continue to turn this pathetic thread into a hot thread, then be my guest, this is only for the fanboys to duke out, *cough cough.....Blaze Release* lol

 

[sG Taka]

You really don't. Actually laughable tbh

Tell me before I do it. Do you want me to list you all the arguments I have on this thread (no editing) and make you look like an idiot? Do you honestly think I have zero arguments on this thread? If you answer no I'll make the list.

 

[sG Taka]

It almost makes me laugh at how some of you are bickering like children over something so damn stupid. So what Naruto uses the fox, so what Sasuke uses cs, they are abilities given to them and it'd be stupid not to use them. If you guys want to continue to turn this pathetic thread into a hot thread, then be my guest, this is only for the fanboys to duke out, *cough cough.....Blaze Release* lol

The purpose of the thread is to clear this out. To make clear that none of them are cheats. That Sasuke fanboys who say Naruto is a cheat because of the Kyuubi, should revise Sasuke's CS before.

Then I throw a little of "my opinion" by saying that if they both were cheat..Sasuke would be more than Naruto and then the fanboys start coming in...

 

[sG Taka]

a normal person might not live after the process but as we've seen with his mother Kushina Uzumaki...the Uzumaki clan are different and can survive having the kyuubi extracted from them

Okay so what if they're the same? I already explained the purpose of Sasuke's CS list.

 

[HBKJames]

Okay so what if they're the same? I already explained the purpose of Sasuke's CS list.

yes and your purpose is pointless cause they're both absolutely the same

so its a wash

kyubi/CS what does it matter? both are given by a seal and taken away when the seal is broken...both characters relied on it. so what? its their weapon to use...

 

[ReXii]

Well i think i made the point nice and clear and you havent answered to what i said
So in summary they are both as bad as each other if you want to argue that naruto is less of a "cheat" then feel free to counter the point made by me and quoted from naruto wiki

 

[HBKJames]

to cheat means to break rules but there are no rules in the shinobi world so you can't cheat in the Naruto-universe

and neither more so than the other they're both equal...you're trying to sy Sasuke is worst than Naruto is incorrect if its on the basis that a) its more of a cheat since there is no cheating b) that Naruto's kyubi is different than Sasuke's CS, more natural which is not the case. they're both equal. both seal given