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I believe there is some stuff people overlook with the Mori no Senju clan (not the senju clan) and the Uzumaki clan relationships.
The new theory proof or basis:
The Mori no Senju clan (Mori no Senju Ichizoku) =/= Senju bloodline/Senju clan (Senju Ichizoku).
Mori no Senju seems to be a reference to the Senju clan during Hashirama's time. When he became the leader. Not before Hashirama. Now some of you might like to say they are the same. The Senju clan of Hashirama's time and the Senju clan before Hashirama are the same.. . BUT NO. They are quite different.
Senju clan before Hashirama's reign was basically the "main branch" or the "main group" of the Senju. However, it wasn't until Hashirama's reign that all the Senju blood relatives started to join together.
Notice that there other name was also the clan of thousand skills (Sen no te o motsu ichizoku). Now as the Databook says, Hashirama gathered his diverse and fractured people. They can't be gathered if they were in the Senju clan (the main branch). So that would suggest the Senju clan was broken down into many other clans.
Senju clan of Hashirama's time was the strongest clan.. not the clan before Hashirama.. It was when he was leading. Because of the unity of the clan under him.
How the Uzumaki come in
As we know the Senju clan of Hashirama's time was a mix of diverse senju blood related groups. Uzumaki are also Senju blood related groups. Notice that it was Hashirama who made the alliance with the Uzumaki. The same Hashirama who had been unifying the Senju together...
. But the problem of course is Uzumaki people lived on an island and not in the fire country. So it is a possible reason why the Uzumaki would not want to join the Senju clan, who was in the middle of a war zone.. and would stay to the side to avoid conflict.
With this we already know Senju clan =/= Senju blood. Senju Clan itself is included in Senju bloodline.. but the bloodline is not limited to the Senju clan.
Plus, why is it that the Uzumaki weren't called blood relatives to the Uchiha clan?? Because they weren't related to the Uchiha clan by blood. Hell even the Senju clan isn't even said to be "distant relatives" of the Uchiha clan.. or vice-versa. Because they aren't considered the same blood.
Especially you see Kushina here separating the Senju clan members (who were very diverse), and saying only they were distant blood relatives of the Uzumaki clan. Notice that the Uchiha clan was also there.
Also, why is it that Tsunade being half Uzumaki is never mentioned? Because it doesn't matter.. in the end its all Senju blood. There is no difference. Also, Tsunade is the only KNOWN Senju because of her relationship to the Shodaime.. However, that does not make her the LAST senju.
Conclusion
The conclusion that I made up of this is that Uzumaki clan are one of the fractured people who Hashirama failed to unite. I mean why else would Tobirama or Hashirama bother putting the Uzumaki symbol on the back of the jackets now... loll.
Also, the "red hair" and etc all make sense to me.. cause unlike the Uchiha or other clans.. Senju were diverse people.. so they are bound to have different traits in their blood. I mean just look at the damn picture of the clan.. Furthermore it explains why there was no more "Senju clan".. because there was nothing to keep them united as a clan... since the village was already made, and people were immensely diverse.
This is my take on the Uzumaki and Senju clan relationship.. and honestly the most logical one..Not to mention the fact Naruto has Ashura's chakra.. lol
The new theory proof or basis:
The Mori no Senju clan (Mori no Senju Ichizoku) =/= Senju bloodline/Senju clan (Senju Ichizoku).
Mori no Senju seems to be a reference to the Senju clan during Hashirama's time. When he became the leader. Not before Hashirama. Now some of you might like to say they are the same. The Senju clan of Hashirama's time and the Senju clan before Hashirama are the same.. . BUT NO. They are quite different.
Senju clan before Hashirama's reign was basically the "main branch" or the "main group" of the Senju. However, it wasn't until Hashirama's reign that all the Senju blood relatives started to join together.
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Notice that there other name was also the clan of thousand skills (Sen no te o motsu ichizoku). Now as the Databook says, Hashirama gathered his diverse and fractured people. They can't be gathered if they were in the Senju clan (the main branch). So that would suggest the Senju clan was broken down into many other clans.
Senju clan of Hashirama's time was the strongest clan.. not the clan before Hashirama.. It was when he was leading. Because of the unity of the clan under him.
How the Uzumaki come in
As we know the Senju clan of Hashirama's time was a mix of diverse senju blood related groups. Uzumaki are also Senju blood related groups. Notice that it was Hashirama who made the alliance with the Uzumaki. The same Hashirama who had been unifying the Senju together...
. But the problem of course is Uzumaki people lived on an island and not in the fire country. So it is a possible reason why the Uzumaki would not want to join the Senju clan, who was in the middle of a war zone.. and would stay to the side to avoid conflict. With this we already know Senju clan =/= Senju blood. Senju Clan itself is included in Senju bloodline.. but the bloodline is not limited to the Senju clan.
Plus, why is it that the Uzumaki weren't called blood relatives to the Uchiha clan?? Because they weren't related to the Uchiha clan by blood. Hell even the Senju clan isn't even said to be "distant relatives" of the Uchiha clan.. or vice-versa. Because they aren't considered the same blood.
Especially you see Kushina here separating the Senju clan members (who were very diverse), and saying only they were distant blood relatives of the Uzumaki clan. Notice that the Uchiha clan was also there.
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Also, why is it that Tsunade being half Uzumaki is never mentioned? Because it doesn't matter.. in the end its all Senju blood. There is no difference. Also, Tsunade is the only KNOWN Senju because of her relationship to the Shodaime.. However, that does not make her the LAST senju.
Conclusion
The conclusion that I made up of this is that Uzumaki clan are one of the fractured people who Hashirama failed to unite. I mean why else would Tobirama or Hashirama bother putting the Uzumaki symbol on the back of the jackets now... loll.
Also, the "red hair" and etc all make sense to me.. cause unlike the Uchiha or other clans.. Senju were diverse people.. so they are bound to have different traits in their blood. I mean just look at the damn picture of the clan.. Furthermore it explains why there was no more "Senju clan".. because there was nothing to keep them united as a clan... since the village was already made, and people were immensely diverse.
This is my take on the Uzumaki and Senju clan relationship.. and honestly the most logical one..Not to mention the fact Naruto has Ashura's chakra.. lol
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