Wind vs Lightning, lets settle this.

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So far I have read threads on wind release vs lightning release. Which has better cutting, piercing, slashing abilities. I know this has probably been done before but I want to ask the base to settle it once and for all. I know wind is strong against lightning but keep in mind that's not what I am asking for. You guys can give theories or evidence to support your claims. Let this just end once and for all.

Thoughts you guys?
 

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It all depends on the type of piercing and how it is applied. Now some may just jump on the bangwagon and say raiton has better piercing and cutting properties but I use manga scans. #Money talks #Bull-shit walks

anyways OT: for example lets say raiton and wind are applied to a weapon. Sasukes chidori kusanagi for example. Sasuke's katan enhanced with raiton was shown to give it more penetrating and cutting power as shown against yamato when it sliced through his kunai[ ]. It also highlighted by yamato of the sharpness increased by the raiton covering sasukes katana[ ].

This again is demonstrated during the Itachi vs sasuke fight. Look at when sasukes throws the wind mill shuriken at the crow clone of itachi[ ]. The crow clone fends off the windmill with a kunai. Now the next page we see sasuke add raiton to the windmill which enables it to cut through the Kunai that the Itachi crow clone is wielding[ ].

As you can see raiton when added to objects can be lethal in terms of the sharpness and cutting power and penetration.

Now lets get into Wind. As you can see Cutting is a unique characteristic of wind[ ]. This further goes into detail when Asuma gives tips to naruto on Wind. We see Asuma cover his weapon in wind element chakra[ ].

It begins here. We see Asuma and naruto both throw their wind influenced blade at a tree[ ]

Narutos blade is only capable of stabbing the tree while Asumas blade goes through the tree and pierces a rock[ ]. Btw if you cant tell the blade with the wind chakra that looks all bubbly is narutos, the one that looks sharp and focused is asumas.

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Asuma saids if he would had tried he could had made his wind blade go through the huge hard rock.

Then he goes on to say THE WIND ELEMENT HAS THE STRONGEST OFFENSIVE POWER FOR CLOSE AND MIDDLE RANGE FIGHTS

You get it now? So in the end the wind element as some advantages over raiton in certain areas. That isnt to say that raiton is weak because it also has its advantages like sharpness. In the end Wind would most likely come out on top.

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Wind can't be blocked, but it can be tanked, ask the Third Raikage.Temari wind did absolutely nothing against his Lightning Armour and Rasenshuriken got tanked.The piercing power of a lightning Release attack is far greater than Wind,Kisame said this during his battle with killer Bee.Also, Lightning is simply more versatale.
 

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It all depends on the type of piercing and how it is applied. Now some may just jump on the bangwagon and say raiton has better piercing and cutting properties but I use manga scans. #Money talks #Bull-shit walks

anyways OT: for example lets say raiton and wind are applied to a weapon. Sasukes chidori kusanagi for example. Sasuke's katan enhanced with raiton was shown to give it more penetrating and cutting power as shown against yamato when it sliced through his kunai[ ]. It also highlighted by yamato of the sharpness increased by the raiton covering sasukes katana[ ].

This again is demonstrated during the Itachi vs sasuke fight. Look at when sasukes throws the wind mill shuriken at the crow clone of itachi[ ]. The crow clone fends off the windmill with a kunai. Now the next page we see sasuke add raiton to the windmill which enables it to cut through the Kunai that the Itachi crow clone is wielding[ ].

As you can see raiton when added to objects can be lethal in terms of the sharpness and cutting power and penetration.

Now lets get into Wind. As you can see Cutting is a unique characteristic of wind[ ]. This further goes into detail when Asuma gives tips to naruto on Wind. We see Asuma cover his weapon in wind element chakra[ ].

It begins here. We see Asuma and naruto both throw their wind influenced blade at a tree[ ]

Narutos blade is only capable of stabbing the tree while Asumas blade goes through the tree and pierces a rock[ ]. Btw if you cant tell the blade with the wind chakra that looks all bubbly is narutos, the one that looks sharp and focused is asumas.

Heres the kicker

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Asuma saids if he would had tried he could had made his wind blade go through the huge hard rock.

Then he goes on to say THE WIND ELEMENT HAS THE STRONGEST OFFENSIVE POWER FOR CLOSE AND MIDDLE RANGE FIGHTS

You get it now? So in the end the wind element as some advantages over raiton in certain areas. That isnt to say that raiton is weak because it also has its advantages like sharpness. In the end Wind would most likely come out on top.

I talk money! I dont bull shit the walk! 3 hunna # no sugar coatin
Very good analysis thanks!=D
 

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Wind can't be blocked, but it can be tanked, ask the Third Raikage.Temari wind did absolutely nothing against his Lightning Armour and Rasenshuriken got tanked.The piercing power of a lightning Release attack is far greater than Wind,Kisame said this during his battle with killer Bee.Also, Lightning is simply more versatale.
What do you mean by versatile? I mean if you mean shape manipulation or chakra flow they can be used in both the same ways. except lightning can also make a person go numb from electrocution. is that what you mean? please explain.
 

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Wind's meant to cut, so I think that it's better since that's its natural function. Lighting doesn't cut unless made to do so. I think this is the fundamental difference between wind and lightning.


1. Wind is a cutter that acts on its own. Ninja tools enable the cutting power to be enhanced (Asuma's blades, Temari's fan) Over all, it's far easier to enhance due to many things that create wind.

2.Lightning isn't a cutter by nature. It's a body enhancer. A uses it to increase speed and uses it to enhance his taijutsu. Chidori is a body part turned into a blade by lightning. When body parts or blades are wrapped up by lighting, its striking potential is increased.


Lightning is more versatile, but is close range and is limited due to the fact you can't create lightning as a source. Wind can be both long and short range, but only has 2 functions. Wind is easier to enhance do to the fact it's air, and you never run out of it.
 
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Wind's meant to cut, so I think that it's better since that's its natural function. Lighting doesn't cut unless made to do so. I think this is the fundamental difference between wind and lightning.


1. Wind is a cutter that acts on its own. Ninja tools enable the cutting power to be enhanced (Asuma's blades, Temari's fan) Over all, it's far easier to enhance due to many things that create wind.

2.Lightning isn't a cutter by nature. It's a body enhancer. A uses it to increase speed and uses it to enhance his taijutsu. Chidori is a body part turned into a blade by lightning. When body parts or blades are wrapped up by lighting, its striking potential is increased.


Lightning is more versatile, but is close range and is limited due to the fact you can't create lightning as a source. Wind can be both long and short range, but only has 2 functions. Wind is easier to enhance do to the fact it's air, and you never run out of it.
I see thanks for clearing that up.*_*
 

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So does this mean that if someone was to create fuukiri it would be better than raikiri if used for the same purposes.
Don't know. Chidori is specifically the type of jutsu lightning was meant for. Wind is meant to be from tools, not the body unless you count Baki. Ransenshuriken is the closest thing we have to a wind chidori since both are variants of ransengan.

However, when it comes to CQB in general, wind wins. Ninja tools only conduct lightning. This means all the energy's coming from the user. Ninja tools, when swung, create wind on its own. This provides an extra source that they can enhance, and control with their chakra. To put things simply. A ninja with wind style on his kunai would most likely be like Temari's wind scythe, but somewhat less powerful, but more concentrated.
 

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Wind's meant to cut, so I think that it's better since that's its natural function. Lighting doesn't cut unless made to do so. I think this is the fundamental difference between wind and lightning.


1. Wind is a cutter that acts on its own. Ninja tools enable the cutting power to be enhanced (Asuma's blades, Temari's fan) Over all, it's far easier to enhance due to many things that create wind.

2.Lightning isn't a cutter by nature. It's a body enhancer. A uses it to increase speed and uses it to enhance his taijutsu. Chidori is a body part turned into a blade by lightning. When body parts or blades are wrapped up by lighting, its striking potential is increased.


Lightning is more versatile, but is close range and is limited due to the fact you can't create lightning as a source. Wind can be both long and short range, but only has 2 functions. Wind is easier to enhance do to the fact it's air, and you never run out of it.
However lightning is better for piercing.
 
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