Will the other toad summoners ever be revealed?

[Bubbles The Powerpuff Girl]

Simple, because the Juubi Obito has is incomplete, see I can explain it easily, can you comprehend easily? Lol

No. It still hasn't awakened EMS. Not even MS. So it possibly can't have one. And it was going through 4 transformations. No difference in the look of eyes or whatsoever.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

No. It still hasn't awakened EMS. Not even MS. So it possibly can't have one. And it was going through 4 transformations. No difference in the look of eyes or whatsoever.

Not even MS? you're starting to become incoherent, the Sharingan is the Yin per se, the Rinnegan is the regulated doujutsu of Juubi's Yin+Yang. Why would the Juubi awaken an incomplete remnant of his own power, don't be absurd.

 

[Bubbles The Powerpuff Girl]

Not even MS? you're starting to become incoherent, the Sharingan is the Yin per se, the Rinnegan is the regulated doujutsu of Juubi's Yin+Yang.

What do you mean? You can't skip stages. If you could, Obito would have Rinnegan wouldn't he? + How can the Juubi and SO6P have Rinnegan at the same time? They can't.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

What do you mean? You can't skip stages. If you could, Obito would have Rinnegan wouldn't he? + How can the Juubi and SO6P have Rinnegan at the same time? They can't.

Sigh, you're not following the logic of the mechanics, just study this chart:

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Study it carefully :scorps:

 

[Naijakid]

The rikudo is an uzumaki

 

[RNITBmsage]

What do you mean? You can't skip stages. If you could, Obito would have Rinnegan wouldn't he? + How can the Juubi and SO6P have Rinnegan at the same time? They can't.

your arguements are extremely inconsistent
yet derps is well layered very plausibe and is generally backed up by the manga
this is a fight you have lost my friend

 

[Bubbles The Powerpuff Girl]

Sigh, you're not following the logic of the mechanics, just study this chart:

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Study it carefully :scorps:

This has too many contraceptions. Let me state them:

1. It says the Senju ancestor inherited his legacy from the Sage.

2. I'm not sure, but it looks like it's saying that Sage was created by the Juubi - which is incorrect.

3. It says Senju + Uchiha = Uzumaki. Shouldn't then the Uzumaki's already have the Rinnegan then?

4. The final thing (which says Uchiha + Senju = Uzumaki) like Madara's EMS + Hashirama's body = Uzumaki is incorrect. They're only cousins of Senju - not Uchiha.

Again 4 incorrect things to me. I won't study false information.

 

[Bubbles The Powerpuff Girl]

your arguements are extremely inconsistent
yet derps is well layered very plausibe and is generally backed up by the manga
this is a fight you have lost my friend

How is that inconsistent? It's a fact. You can't skip stages. Leave the debate if you can't understand even that and leave this to your friend.

EDIT: He's not backed up by the manga. I am. Why hasn't he stated that then? Because he's not. That's why I'm bombing him with the fact.

 

[RNITBmsage]

How is that inconsistent? It's a fact. You can't skip stages. Leave the debate if you can't understand even that and leave this to your friend.

you can't accuse him of skipping stages just because you fail to understand what he is saying

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

This has too many contraceptions. Let me state them:

1. It says the Senju ancestor inherited his legacy from the Sage.

2. I'm not sure, but it looks like it's saying that Sage was created by the Juubi - which is incorrect.

3. It says Senju + Uchiha = Uzumaki. Shouldn't then the Uzumaki's already have the Rinnegan then?

4. The final thing (which says Uchiha + Senju = Uzumaki) like Madara's EMS + Hashirama's body = Uzumaki is incorrect. They're only cousins of Senju - not Uchiha.

Again 4 incorrect things to me. I won't study false information.

Your comprehension skills are pathetic.

Where is it stated in the Chart that the Juubi created the Sage? it said the Sage awakened the Rinnegan when he sealed the Juubi, your comprehension is incorrect, and also Uzumaki + Juubi = Uchiha and Senju, not Uzumaki = Uchiha and Senju, your understanding is again incorrect.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

You respond too slowly so I'll respond again:

This is the Viz Translation of Tobi's statement regarding the Sage, the Juubi, the Bijuus and the Moon:

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1st: The Sage divided the Chakra of the Juubi into Nine Bijuus

2nd: The Chakraless Body of the Juubi was hurled into the Sky

3rd: The Sealing Stone became the Moon

4th: The Rinnegan's Chibaku Tensei created the Moon

5th: Darui questions how a human can accomplish such a feat

6th: Tobi replies that as Juubi's Jinchuuriki, Rikudou had advanced beyond the realm of humanity.

So base on the logic of the statements, it means that Rikudou kept a remainder power of the Juubi even without the Chakra of the Juubi (which became the Nine Bijuus), and that power was used to create the Moon even when he was no longer the Jinchuuriki, the Rinnegan created the Moon through Chibaku Tensei, ergo, the remainder power of the Juubi being referred to is the Rinnegan.

Conclusion: Rinnegan came from the Juubi.

 

[elsepa]

Wait , but aren't there like six names?Is there a chance Tobirama is one? his interest was ranked right after rock lee , which was perfecting himself , so i don't see how he wouldn't learn it if he knew about it

 

[Bubbles The Powerpuff Girl]

Your comprehension abilities are pathetic.

Where is it stated in the Chart that the Juubi created the Sage? it said the Sage awakened the Rinnegan when he sealed the Juubi, your comprehension is incorrect, and also Uzumaki + Juubi = Uchiha and Senju, not Uzumaki = Uchiha and Senju, your understanding is again incorrect.

Seriously, this is a good theory now, I'm not denying that fact - but it has no backup theories, has contradictions and has no proof. + Because the Juubi was above the Rinnegan that the Sage had. It looked liked it, but if it's not I'm glad that it's not. I can't say myself that this is false by 100% now. But your theory has a total percentages of being true is currently less than 50%. Good luck to you in this theory, and NO I'm not agreeing to this theory. I got sick of staring at this thread all the time.

 

[RNITBmsage]

Seriously, this is a good theory now, I'm not denying that fact - but it has no backup theories, has contradictions and has no proof. + Because the Juubi was above the Rinnegan that the Sage had. It looked liked it, but if it's not I'm glad that it's not. I can't say myself that this is false by 100% now. But your theory has a total percentages of being true is currently less than 50%. Good luck to you in this theory, and NO I'm not agreeing to this theory. I got sick of staring at this thread all the time.

derp you always win
like a boss :scorps:

 

[Booker]

Your comprehension skills are pathetic.

Where is it stated in the Chart that the Juubi created the Sage? it said the Sage awakened the Rinnegan when he sealed the Juubi, your comprehension is incorrect, and also Uzumaki + Juubi = Uchiha and Senju, not Uzumaki = Uchiha and Senju, your understanding is again incorrect.

I just want to voice a couple beefs I have with your theory.

(1) The Sage obtained Rinnegan from the Juubi? This makes no sense, as everytime the Sage was depicted he had already had the Rinnegan, and the Juubi recalls him already having the Rinnegan.

(2) If Rikudo created two sons to house the opposite powers, why didn't he just create one to harness them both? There would have been no sibling rivalry.

(3) On the topic of the brothers, they are reffered to as the Elder and the Younger. Are you suggesting Rikudou created one son, waited a while, and then created the other?

 

[Bubbles The Powerpuff Girl]

derp you always win
like a boss :scorps:

This is not a win. I've stated all the facts. I'm confessing. But it's a good theory, I've seen these kind of many times, and this is probably the best but most insane and crazy one. But it still has holes. It's almost impossible to assume that, when the manga is only going this long. But I won't believe anything unless the manga/Kishi states. And this debate has taken too long for me. That's why I'm out.

 

[RNITBmsage]

a mod is browsing..
scary

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

I just want to voice a couple beefs I have with your theory.

(1) The Sage obtained Rinnegan from the Juubi? This makes no sense, as everytime the Sage was depicted he had already had the Rinnegan, and the Juubi recalls him already having the Rinnegan.

(2) If Rikudo created two sons to house the opposite powers, why didn't he just create one to harness them both? There would have been no sibling rivalry.

(3) On the topic of the brothers, they are reffered to as the Elder and the Younger. Are you suggesting Rikudou created one son, waited a while, and then created the other?

The sage was always depicted as the Juubi's Jinchuuriki, the only time he was depicted as not being its Jinchuuriki was when he was fighting it, and as you can see it's not showing his face:

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As for Juubi seeing the image of Rikudou in Naruto with the Rinnegan, it only means the Juubi like the Bijuus can see through their hosts/Jinchuurikis, not to mention that it is Kishimoto's way of artistic clarity that by depicting the Rikudou with his most prominent feature: The Rinnegan, us the readers would have clear understanding of the author's intent that the Juubi is actually seeing Rikudou in Naruto, and not some other ambiguous entity.

Also, he created two instead of one because he wanted them to work together, that is his philosophy: when two polar opposites are in harmony, true peace can be obtained, if he created a single entity then that would be counterintuitive to Rikudou's intent of "working together" which is what he also meant by saying to the Bijuus "what true power is" aka "working together"

The Elder and Younger Sons are merely designations to differentiate the two.

 

[Booker]

The sage was always depicted as the Juubi's Jinchuuriki, the only time he was depicted as not being its Jinchuuriki was when he was fighting it, and as you can see it's not showing his face:

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Also, he created two instead of one because he wanted them to work together, that is his philosophy: when two polar opposites are in harmony, true peace can be obtained, if he created a single entity then that would be counterintuitive to Rikudou's intent of "working together" which is what he also meant by saying to the Bijuus "what true power is" aka "working together"

The Elder and Younger Sons are merely designations to differentiate the two.

(1) You did not address why the Juubi recalls Rikudou with Rinnegan instead of without, as you suggest he did.

(2) Creating one body using both the forces seems like perfect harmony to me, and makes much more sense. The two forces would be working together in one body, as with the Sage.

(3) Right, Elder and Younger don't imply that one is older and one is younger at all, does it? Lol

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

(1) You did not address why the Juubi recalls Rikudou with Rinnegan instead of without, as you suggest he did.

(2) Creating one body using both the forces seems like perfect harmony to me, and makes much more sense. The two forces would be working together in one body, as with the Sage.

(3) Right, Elder and Younger don't imply that one is older and one is younger at all, does it? Lol

Juubi seeing the image of Rikudou in Naruto with the Rinnegan, it only means the Juubi like the Bijuus can see through their hosts/Jinchuurikis, not to mention that it is Kishimoto's way of artistic clarity that by depicting the Rikudou with his most prominent feature: The Rinnegan, us the readers would have clear understanding of the author's intent that the Juubi is actually seeing Rikudou in Naruto, and not some other ambiguous entity.

Creating one body using both the forces seems like perfect harmony to me, and makes much more sense.

Well Rikudou thought otherwise:

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