Will naruto be stronger than madara or Hashirama with the New powerup?

[Xlad]

Well what exactly is a badass powerup?

A better TBB, longer lasting bijuu mode, more chakra, and maybe more speed?

I think for him to become stronger he needs to learn more jutsu, and just have overall better fighting skill

Looks like I'm not the only one that thinks this.

 

[MickNerks]

Wot?! no
we don't know that he's that fast in BM
with KCM it was all the chakra in a little body and that why he was so fast.
In BM he's big and heavier

he doesn't have infinite chakra, he can hold one BM only for 8 min or something like that
so, 1 min and 36 sec for each kage?
I think they would win easily

BM naruto's speed is so fast that his movements alone repelled 5 TBB at point blank range. It doesnt get much faster than that unless your teleporting.lol

And i think its clearly obvious that naruto could solo the 5 kages.

 

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BM naruto's speed is so fast that his movements alone repelled 5 TBB at point blank range. It doesnt get much faster than that unless your teleporting.lol

And i think its clearly obvious that naruto could solo the 5 kages.

actually his BM normal speed isn't that fast,he's only able to reach that speed with the bodyflicker which he doesn't seem to be able to use multiple times,so in the speed departement naruto is still has a long way to go.

 

[theTobiramaSenju]

BM naruto's speed is so fast that his movements alone repelled 5 TBB at point blank range. It doesnt get much faster than that unless your teleporting.lol

And i think its clearly obvious that naruto could solo the 5 kages.

Narutofans are rare and usually logical...
No you are talking about KCM
give me proof for it being so fast and than I'll believe naruto might win

 

[Murasame]

Wot?! no
we don't know that he's that fast in BM
with KCM it was all the chakra in a little body and that why he was so fast.
In BM he's big and heavier

he doesn't have infinite chakra, he can hold one BM only for 8 min or something like that
so, 1 min and 36 sec for each kage?
I think they would win easily

Wrong he's still as fast if not maybe faster.

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[naruto legend]

That. Would be. The best. thing. ever.

Of course that would be epic.

 

[MickNerks]

actually his BM normal speed isn't that fast,he's only able to reach that speed with the bodyflicker which he doesn't seem to be able to use multiple times,so in the speed departement naruto is still has a long way to go.

Naruto doesnt know the body flicker technique. His speed is so fast that killer bee said it looked like the body flicker technique.

Narutofans are rare and usually logical...
No you are talking about KCM
give me proof for it being so fast and than I'll believe naruto might win

This is the mis-conception alot of people have on this base.

Kyuubi mode is this:

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Bijuu Mode is this:

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Tailed Beast Mode is this:

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I think you consider kyuubi mode and bijuu mode to be the same thing. Am I right?

 

[xxSAGExx]

He will absolutely not surpass madara, obito, or hashirama...why? Because the kyuubi is the source of his power and madara has tamed that kyuubi and hashirama is above any tailed beast and every shinobi and has proven this and obito is almost on equal ground with those two if not stronger than they were in their primes l

Naruto only gains speed and strength increases when he undergoes a power up and having speed or strength is nothing against those who are all around even nagato who was crippled manhandled bm Naruto who supposedly surpassed minato in speed an madara told Naruto when he was continuing to go from km to bm that he was weak and that was useless doing so

Actually Naruto never used his speed in that fight at all. So he kept up with Itachi's speed with his base KM speed. There's only a flash when Naruto uses his speed. Also you do know that we never seen Naruto fight at full power right? Naruto was exhausted by the time he fought Obito. Naruto went from his intense training with Bee to join the war He split his chakra evenly among all of his clones So Nagato and Itachi didn't even fight a half strenght Naruto So that fight is invalid. This War is Naruto's training for his KM.

Naruto was using his power (The power he took from Kurama is forever his as stated by Bee) then started to use Kurama's chakra (his clone) against Madara's wood jutsu then Naruto after Kurama became his friend. 1 KM clone that isn't even at 25% of Naruto's power (25% would be if Naruto made 3 clones plus himself) defeated Muu and 3rd Raikage with limited help So what do you think a full power Naruto can do? And if his power doublesat that? All of his power will double. Read below for if he gets his foreshadowed powerup.

With naruto getting the Other half of the kyuubi and becoming full powered, Will he finally surpass Madara and hashirama?

[It is most probable that he already surpassed EMS madara]

With naruto only Half powered, He is easily top 5 with His Bijuu mode.

Imagine Naruto going Full power, It would be Like doubling up his power.

What do you guys think of this matter?

Will this be Naruto's Final powerup?

Wel it depends on what his new powerup might be. Right no Naruto's power is on their level but his skills, smarts, experience and jutsu arsenal isnt on their level. With 2x the chakra, Naruto speed should be 2x as well which means he's speed would no doubt be the fastest. Another possible powerup is if Naruto gets the other half of Kurama and then fuse with Ma and Pa toad, combining KM/BM with SM to form SKM/SBM. With tht new mode I'm see Naruto defeating anyoneas if they are all fodders. I say this because Sage mode more than doubles the ninja's chakra so Kurama's chakra will become so OP. SM already has the best Sensory ability we've seen so imagine how it would be combined with KM's sensory ability then the powerup the sensory ability will receive.

In training, Naruto (KM) crushed a boulder just by trying to pick it up, BM should be stronger and we all know that SM has a 1 hit kill punch so add that power together then increase it even more (due to other part of Kurama's chakra). His speed, agility, endurance, strenght, powerup all jutsus, recovery rate, stamina, sensory and more chakra (All things SM increase) will be added and improved with the Speed, strength, powerup all jutsus, sensory, distribute chakra to others that powerup and heal others, reaction time, huge chakra which can be replenished by Kurama. So tha new mode would own all, his new improve sensory ability will let him sense any and all attacks and since he's fused with Ma and Pa, can also sense, use collaboration jutsus (like oil+fire+wind=boiling oil), frog song, dust cloud, help with strategies. Also Kurama can take over and fight for Naruto too so changing battle styles as well.

 

[theTobiramaSenju]

Naruto doesnt know the body flicker technique. His speed is so fast that killer bee said it looked like the body flicker technique.



This is the mis-conception alot of people have on this base.

Kyuubi mode is this:

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Bijuu Mode is this:

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Tailed Beast Mode is this:

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I think you consider kyuubi mode and bijuu mode to be the same thing. Am I right?

No my friend... Killer B said it on the KCM


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TBM=BM

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[abcdefgh]

Not Sage Mode Hashirama, who was built to suppress jinchuuriki and control biju.

EMS Madara? It's a possibility.

 

[riek18]

naruto didn't even really get to train with his power ups!

 

[MickNerks]

No my friend... Killer B said it on the KCM


KCM

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TBM=BM

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Ok cool. So even if we do consider BM and TBM to be the same thing they still have the feat of repelling 5 TBB at point blank range.

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after he transforms fully to bijuu mode is when he blitz to reflect them.

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[Strawberry]

ems maddy would crush him

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

He most definitely will, he has main character plot shield afterall Lol

 

[KidGamer65]

Was the Hachibi sealed with RIKUDOU SENNINS seal?
-nope
Was Killer B able to give away Hachibi chakra and control it however he'd like?
-nope
Was Killer B at any point given the power of all tailed beasts?
-nope
but all tailed beasts transferred some of their (both chakras) into Naruto... ASAP as naruto gets the last remaining chakra for Kurama... He will have "some" power of all 9 bijuu ^^

What does any of this have to do with Yin and Yang..oh wait. NOTHING AT ALL.

sir. i am talking about plot not feats.

Think about this, Why would naruto need more chakra? He is already a chakra fuel station without the other half. For plot purposes why would he need more chakra?

Well the answer to that is a powerup. It is obvious that it's a power up so naruto can save the world.

How would he save the world and Be the sage's successor if he can't defeat madara or the juubi?

My bad. Since we are talking about plot its definite he needs something else to be able to defeat these guys.

 

[Honord Sage]

Let see Minato will arrive and give Naruto the second Haft of Kurama's chakra,thus Naruto get's a noter power up, the 4 Hokage's along with Orochimaru, Sasuke,Team Taka and the alliance will keep Madara occupy wiled Kakashi keeps Obito busy. Allowing Naruto to play tug of war with the Juubi for a noter power up.

 

[Booker]

Full power Naruto > Madara, Hashirama

 

[Almighty Ra]

I think Naruto will be on a whole different level..I'll wait and see what happens when he gets the Yin chakra

 

[Penguin]

If he gets the other half of Kyuubi chakra, it would not mean anything. He already has almost infinite chakra, now he would have alot more. It would not increase his speed much or anything like that. It will just save him from the plot in the manga.

 

[TheHokage]

If the question is Will Naruto be stronger than Hashirama and Madara by the end then I'd assume yes.

However most Hashirama and Madara fanboys will argue that no one will surpass these two when Kishi has set it up so inevitably

Naruto>Hashirama
Sasuke>Madara

As of now it depends on what type of power up Naruto gets if it's just more chakra then he'll be basically in the same position he's in now however if it's something that actually improves his all round skills then yeah I'd say he'd have a good chance of surpassing both Hashirama and Madara.

However I hope Minato doesn't give Naruto the other half of Kurama's chakra I hope his next power up comes from something the Bijuu's gave him before they where absorbed into the tentails.

Another point I want to make is even though it would be cool to see the Hokages help Naruto defeat Madara I also think it would be kind of lame as well since I actually want to see a 1 on 1 battle with the main protagonist vs the main antagonist.